[Tag]

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by Tag

Lots of whining around these forums. We need to give out free cheese with the WHINE.

[filet.M2c]

Originally Posted by bovairdf87

Tune and downpipe on a n55 and you have better handling and sound with the same power

I'm calling it now. Stock M2c with have more power than a FBO n55 on 91.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by synergist

I'm calling it now. Stock M2c with have more power than a FBO n55 on 91.

Yep, ONE turbo runs out of boost quicker, when there are two smaller turbos instead, they boost is quicker, due to the smaller need of momentum. That's why having two turbos are special, they're like a tag team working together and not just one working harder.

[M-Pilot]

Despite the claimed extra weight, I definitely don't believe BMW will release a new M and call it "Competition" which will handle worse than the outgoing model. If it does, it would be a total failure on their part. I guess we'll have to wait for the reviews.

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by sunil_linus

People only purchase M cars because of the grill or how it sounds... Who knew...

You forgot the mirrors ... it's definitely the mirrors.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

You forgot the mirrors ... it's definitely the mirrors.

For reals, I'm sure a lot of people here ARE upset they included M mirrors this time around; one less thing they could of bitched about.. Sorry haters..

[GerardzM]

Just had a thought.....could this new model be limited in terms of tuning potential? Is BMW really going to release a car at a significantly cheaper price point than the M3/M4 and easily be on par...or even faster with a simple tune? Does this not disrupt the heirarchy of M models?

In the MINI world, the S model shares the same engine as the highest JCW model.....but due to some design changes of the engines and turbo, a tune still can't really put them at the same level.

This is all referring to the N18 engine...when I was more involved with that brand.

Just a thought.

[300f87]

Originally Posted by sunil_linus

Yep, when ONE turbo runs out of boost, the second turbo is already primed and ready to go.. That's why having two turbos are special, they're like a tag team..

AFAIK, S55 does not have a sequential turbo setup. Each turbo feeds 3 cylinders in parallel.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by 300f22

AFAIK, S55 does not have a sequential turbo setup. Each turbo feeds 3 cylinders in parallel.

Two turbos combined with "BMW Vtec" VANOS is tuned so the car will always have enough boost and not run out of breath or lag.

[Potatohead-M2]

Originally Posted by sunil_linus

Two turbos combined with "BMW Vtec" VANOS is tuned so the car will always have enough boost and not run out of breath or lag.

Uhhh, every turbo car made today has a turbo+variable valve timing.

I would be surprised if the turbos on this car are the same size as the ones on the M4. Probably be slightly smaller.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

You forgot the mirrors ... it's definitely the mirrors.

I’m surprised that none of the M3 and M4 guys that are now interested in the M2 Competition aren’t complaining about there M Seats now having crappy Dakota leather.

[Chako]

N55 owners be like this mod for S55

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by Chako

N55 owners be like this mod for S55

If I could think of a better word than "hilarious," I'd use it.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

I'm surprised that none of the M3 and M4 guys that are now interested in the M2 Competition aren't complaining about there M Seats now having crappy Dakota leather.

I own an M4 but I agree with you. When M2 first came out, I heard several repetitive comments from many F80/F82 owners regarding the "cheap" interior, lack of M mirrors, CF roof etc. What's under the hood and how the car feels/performs are more important to me. My decision of going with an M4 had nothing to with any luxury items. In fact, I skipped LED headlights, full leather, side/top view cameras etc. I just wanted a car that is very track capable and at the same time "oh shit!" fast on the highway or straight line. Now, there is a chance for me to have the same experience in a smaller, possibly more fun car. Therefore, if BMW put cloth non-M seats, regular non-M mirrors on this car, I wouldn't care one bit. In fact, I sometimes think I could even survive without the music player and the iDrive lol.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

Uhhh, every turbo car made today has a turbo+variable valve timing.

I would be surprised if the turbos on this car are the same size as the ones on the M4. Probably be slightly smaller.

The article below mentions what I'm referring to. I believe VANOS was lacking on N54 exhaust side. Long story longer, It makes a twin turbo car more efficient.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

A little more than a week away, and people are starting to really crack up in here.

Originally Posted by ChrisK

Lots of whining around these forums. We need to give out free cheese with the WHINE.

We're currently into thin air, very close to the top now and some start rambling.

Acute mountain sickness (AMS): physical distress from difficulty adjusting to lower oxygen pressure at high altitude. Symptoms: hangover, nausea, vomiting, excessive flatulation, dizziness, lightheadedness, etc.

[Spa2k]

So are the meth kits I see advertised in the classified section supposed to be for the cars - or to help people here survive the next 10 days?


P.S. It's not worth it...

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

So are the meth kits I see advertised in the classified section supposed to be for the cars - or to help people here survive the next 10 days?
P.S. It's not worth it...

10 days ? Just hang on till this Wednesday April 18 for news from Germany.

[Edtex]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

Uhhh, every turbo car made today has a turbo+variable valve timing.

I would be surprised if the turbos on this car are the same size as the ones on the M4. Probably be slightly smaller.

I disagree, I believe they are identical engines other than a software driven de-tune on the M2 Comp. which puts it in slightly lower hp than the M4. A re-tune of the M2 Comp. together with a performance type exhaust, cold air intake and maybe even a catless downpipe will put the M2 Comp at approx. 570 hp.

[Potatohead-M2]

Originally Posted by Edtex

I disagree, I believe they are identical engines other than a software driven de-tune on the M2 Comp. which puts it in slightly lower hp than the M4. A re-tune of the M2 Comp. together with a performance type exhaust, cold air intake and maybe even a catless downpipe will put the M2 Comp at approx. 570 hp.

It’s possible, but it will be slightly laggier in that case.

[Edtex]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

It’s possible, but it will be slightly laggier in that case.

I don't know about laggier but my M4 did 11.7 @ 121mph in the 1/4 mile with a Dinan stage 2 tune and street tires. And I did not use my launch control feature. Since that run a couple of months ago I've added a Stage 3 so I would hope it might do a little better times.