M2 Competition - 7.50 official Nurburgring lap time and 7.52 by Sport Auto

M3GymNut · 10-15-2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnerDriver

I don't converse with internet tough guys, which you demonstrated you are.

Welcome to my ignore list.

AAAwwwwwww lucky me.

Protatomonster · 10-15-2018, 01:57 PM

These forums get heated dang you'd think to be able to afford a BMW you'd be pretty busy and wouldn't have enough time to argue on forums lmfao.

cptobvious · 10-15-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Protatomonster

These forums get heated dang you'd think to be able to afford a BMW you'd be pretty busy and wouldn't have enough time to argue on forums lmfao.

Did you see the "Life happens" thread? I think that gentleman put it perfectly. In the end, I suspect we're all on this forum to get away from real life and act like kids again. And, well, kids get into school yard fights!

(Well, not anymore. Whenever I take my kids to school now, the teachers will sometimes take 10 minutes to explain to me why my child was crying today - somebody didn't share some toy, or some such crap. My reaction is: "Did my child lose an arm? No? I don't need to know. Please stop talking to me.")

It's all good. We're all of us acting like 10 year-olds again!

mikeric · 10-15-2018, 02:13 PM

Geez, this got heated quickly.

One Driver and GymNut both are saying the same thing but are somehow talking past each other. Street tires are not intended for the track and tend to "Chunk" and shred. Sure, race tires will wear out quickly but street tires can get destroyed in a few hot laps and turn greasy.

Since I just picked up a Giulia QV, I thought I would post this video of a Crazy Italian in street clothes running a 7:32. Car is claimed to be stock but regardless if it is, dude is an incredible driver and has balls of steel. Enjoy!

Bonus points for almost killing himself a dozen times and extra bonus points for the "Italian Engineering" camera duct taped to the dash.

cptobvious · 10-15-2018, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeric

Geez, this got heated quickly.

One Driver and GymNut both are saying the same thing but somehow talking past each other. Street tires are not intended for the track and tend to "Chunk" and shred. Sure, race tires will wear out quickly but street tires can get destroyed in a few hot laps and turn greasy.

Since I just picked up a Giulia QV, I thought I would post this video of a Crazy Italian in street clothes running a 7:32. Car is claimed to be stock but regardless if it is, dude is an incredible driver and has balls of steel. Enjoy!

Dude, now that you have the Giulia, YOU need to go to the ring and do this! I want nothing less than a 7:31 time out of you, man!

mikeric · 10-15-2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cptobvious

Dude, now that you have the Giulia, YOU need to go to the ring and do this! I want nothing less than a 7:31 time out of you, man!

Not only do I not have that skill, I want to be around to see my daughter grow up.

amrk47 · 10-15-2018, 10:00 PM

7:50-7:58 those are pig numbers

Alfa was asleep for 20 years and all of a sudden made a car that out performs 99% of BMW's lineup haha

BMW is failing and not moving in the right direction

Robin_NL · 10-16-2018, 01:45 AM

Pig numbers

When you've actually been driving on the NS, you'd say 7:50/7:52 is pretty decent for a '400 HP' and 1600KG rwd car with PSS. And that's an understatement.

Alfa QV, 7:32 was a great lap. For a totally stock out of the box car more than impressive.

But for some strange reason Alfa wouldn't lend SportAuto that car to try it on the Ring in the professional hands of mr Gebhardt....

I'm still contemplating why that is?

Cheers
Robin

Robin_NL · 10-16-2018, 02:58 AM

And what about supercar slayer Alfa 4C, lightweight, driver oriented like a Lotus etcetera.

8:05 in the hands of C. Gebhardt.

General Alfisti's comments: "Nordschleife laptimes aren't imporant blablabla, it's about the driving experience...."

But now with the QV they certainly are.

Cheers
Robin

Davil · 10-16-2018, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

And what about supercar slayer Alfa 4C, lightweight, driver oriented like a Lotus etcetera.

8:05 in the hands of C. Gebhardt.

General Alfisti's comments: "Nordschleife laptimes aren't imporant blablabla, it's about the driving experience...."

But now with the QV they certainly are.

Cheers
Robin

The whole Nürburgring thing is a bit ridiculous these days. Apparently they edited the Stelvio video to improve the time by 8 seconds and the Giulia was 100kg lighter etc etc. blah blah blah. So much cheating and bragging. It’s all marketing. As Captain Slow says “I hate the bloody Nürburgring”.

I think the Giulia QV is fantastic and it was on my list. But I’d have the M2C any day of the week. Couldn’t care if it was 24 hours faster.

ScottAndrew · 10-16-2018, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by amrk47

7:50-7:58 those are pig numbers

Alfa was asleep for 20 years and all of a sudden made a car that out performs 99% of BMW's lineup haha

BMW is failing and not moving in the right direction

Time to dump the brand, then; after all, nothing is more important to commuters nose-to-tail in traffic than a hot ring lap in a slightly different version of their car. Nothing.

Robin_NL · 10-16-2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottAndrew

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Originally Posted by amrk47

7:50-7:58 those are pig numbers

Alfa was asleep for 20 years and all of a sudden made a car that out performs 99% of BMW's lineup haha

BMW is failing and not moving in the right direction

Time to dump the brand, then; after all, nothing is more important to commuters nose-to-tail in traffic than a hot ring lap in a slightly different version of their car. Nothing.

'Slightly different version of their car'

I giggled

Cheers
Robin

mikeric · 10-16-2018, 08:41 AM

If anyone is buying a car based solely on its Ring lap times... lets just say they are special.

Both the M2C and the QF are amazing cars and I wish I could have one of each. I would also like a GT3 and a F40 and a MX-5 etc.

Point is, we are all car guys here, who cares! both cars are fast, both are amazing, and both have their faults. I think people who are blindly loyal to one brand are missing out on much of what life has to offer.

gnx · 10-16-2018, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeric

Geez, this got heated quickly.

One Driver and GymNut both are saying the same thing but are somehow talking past each other. Street tires are not intended for the track and tend to "Chunk" and shred. Sure, race tires will wear out quickly but street tires can get destroyed in a few hot laps and turn greasy.

Since I just picked up a Giulia QV, I thought I would post this video of a Crazy Italian in street clothes running a 7:32. Car is claimed to be stock but regardless if it is, dude is an incredible driver and has balls of steel. Enjoy!

Bonus points for almost killing himself a dozen times and extra bonus points for the "Italian Engineering" camera duct taped to the dash.

DAT DUDE!

Incredible driving.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabio-francia-b319b4100/

M3GymNut · 10-16-2018, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by amrk47

7:50-7:58 those are pig numbers

Alfa was asleep for 20 years and all of a sudden made a car that out performs 99% of BMW's lineup haha

BMW is failing and not moving in the right direction

This is exactly why AR has my attention and looking forward to a possible revision of the QV and the 2dr version.

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mikeric Private First Class 112 Rep 131 Posts Drives: 718 Spyder, 535i, XC90 T8 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	Geez, this got heated quickly. One Driver and GymNut both are saying the same thing but are somehow talking past each other. Street tires are not intended for the track and tend to "Chunk" and shred. Sure, race tires will wear out quickly but street tires can get destroyed in a few hot laps and turn greasy. Since I just picked up a Giulia QV, I thought I would post this video of a Crazy Italian in street clothes running a 7:32. Car is claimed to be stock but regardless if it is, dude is an incredible driver and has balls of steel. Enjoy! Bonus points for almost killing himself a dozen times and extra bonus points for the "Italian Engineering" camera duct taped to the dash. Last edited by mikeric; 10-15-2018 at 02:23 PM..
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amrk47 Enlisted Member 23 Rep 46 Posts Drives: 18 F87 M2 Join Date: May 2012 Location: AZ iTrader: (0)	7:50-7:58 those are pig numbers Alfa was asleep for 20 years and all of a sudden made a car that out performs 99% of BMW's lineup haha BMW is failing and not moving in the right direction
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Robin_NL S0THPAW 8716 Rep 7,846 Posts Drives: HS M2 Competition Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	Pig numbers When you've actually been driving on the NS, you'd say 7:50/7:52 is pretty decent for a '400 HP' and 1600KG rwd car with PSS. And that's an understatement. Alfa QV, 7:32 was a great lap. For a totally stock out of the box car more than impressive. But for some strange reason Alfa wouldn't lend SportAuto that car to try it on the Ring in the professional hands of mr Gebhardt.... I'm still contemplating why that is? Cheers Robin
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Robin_NL S0THPAW 8716 Rep 7,846 Posts Drives: HS M2 Competition Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	And what about supercar slayer Alfa 4C, lightweight, driver oriented like a Lotus etcetera. 8:05 in the hands of C. Gebhardt. General Alfisti's comments: "Nordschleife laptimes aren't imporant blablabla, it's about the driving experience...." But now with the QV they certainly are. Cheers Robin
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mikeric Private First Class 112 Rep 131 Posts Drives: 718 Spyder, 535i, XC90 T8 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	If anyone is buying a car based solely on its Ring lap times... lets just say they are special. Both the M2C and the QF are amazing cars and I wish I could have one of each. I would also like a GT3 and a F40 and a MX-5 etc. Point is, we are all car guys here, who cares! both cars are fast, both are amazing, and both have their faults. I think people who are blindly loyal to one brand are missing out on much of what life has to offer.
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