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I honestly don’t remember if we got them for all four corners on my car, or if I ran 1.11s in the back. |
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Many people think about cooling in terms of airflow. What few consider is radiation, which is crucial at track temperatures. Those dust shields don't allow the heat to radiate away from the disc. Instead, they reflect the heat right back at the inner disc face, causing it to run at a higher temperature than the outside face. That temperature differential creates stress on the disc that tends to produce premature cracks, and could potentially have a big impact on any pad fade you're experiencing. Again, we always recommend removing the dust shields. It's one of the first recommended steps in all of our install manuals. They hold the heat on the inner disc face and cook everything! |
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I know for sure we have the DS3.12 compound in the rear M2 Competition shape: https://www.essexparts.com/ferodo-fc...312-brake-pads I believe Ferodo may have just released the standard M2 rear shape (blue calipers) as well. Let me check on that one please. |
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02-26-2020, 01:07 PM | #26 | |
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Hopefully Ferodo has the 3.12 in the rear blue caliper pad shape now. |
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Anyone of these 3 pads are about as close to a "best of all worlds" pad. If you stand on your brakes like ZM2, then these might not last as long :-)
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It looks like ZM2 is onto a great pad compound..
I wonder how much this pad will eat rotors for street driving. Here's a nice article from RennLst... https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...s3-12-a-2.html
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The splash shields aren't solving any major issue on the street unless you're routinely driving your car through nasty gunk (mud, dirt, gobs of salt). They do more harm than good on any car that is tracked, so that's why we always recommend their removal. |
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02-27-2020, 09:42 AM | #31 | |
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Plus, it's nice not needing to rebed b/n pad compounds. All the Ferodo's are "compatible" so you don't have to remove the previous pad transfer layer and lay a new one down. The brakes are good to go when switching b/n the different Ferodo's. |
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02-27-2020, 09:53 AM | #32 | |
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The Ferodo DS3.12 is an incredible compound, and they are verypopular among the Porsche GT3 crowd. A large number of our AP Racing brake kit customers have transitioned over to them as well. Ferodo has slowly been adding more shapes to their DS3.12 offerings, and we now have them for both the standard blue M2 calipers front and rear, and the M2 Competition calipers front and rear. I just finished up an article on our Essex Blog about the DS3.12 the other day. I've been rolling around on the street with them on my C6 vette track/street and they work great on the road...excellent feel cold, not hurting the discs, and haven't made any appreciable noise. On the track they are fantastic...possibly the best pad I've ever used. They are truly world-class pads, and among the very best we've ever tested on our brake dyno as well. Ferodo has been winning GT races with them in Europe on Lambos and Audis as well. Here's some recent feedback on the DS3.12 from a Porsche Cup driver after winning his first race on them. Ferodo DS3.12 M2 Competition OEM shapes: Front= https://www.essexparts.com/ferodo-fc...brake-pads3846 Rear= https://www.essexparts.com/ferodo-fc...312-brake-pads Ferodo DS3.12 M2 Standard Blue brakes OEM shapes: We're in the process of getting these up on our website, but we do have them on order with Ferodo in the front and rear shapes for the standard M2 blue brakes. Last edited by jritt@essex; 02-27-2020 at 10:10 AM.. |
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I'm going to look at designing some ball joint kits. We currently sell it by the linear foot, but that's far more than would be required for this use. This stuff is incredible, and would be perfect for this application. Thanks. ZM2...I'm gonna need you to guinea pig since you're evil to your brakes. Are you up for it? Last edited by jritt@essex; 02-27-2020 at 01:53 PM.. |
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I also convinced a buddy of mine with a tuned F80 M3 to buy the front AP’s and 3.12s all around before our next track day in early April. So, your sales team will be hearing from him soon. He’s as hard on the brakes as me, and we’ll be taking turns all day long at an open track event at High Plains outside of Denver. So, that may be a better guinea pig test before I get the M2 back out. Hit me up and I’ll give you his info. He has some auto engineering & design in his background, so we’ll be able to get you good data. |
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