[Jmo550]

Hey guys ,

Simple question do you think the new m2 comp lease is going to be outrageous?

I lease all my cars ,currently in a m235 and would love to jump into a new m2c

Thanks

[Soren535]

Originally Posted by Jmo550

Hey guys ,

Simple question do you think the new m2 comp lease is going to be outrageous?

I lease all my cars ,currently in a m235 and would love to jump into a new m2c

Thanks

I doubt the lease rate will be anywhere near what you can get in a M235i. I currently lease a 2016 M235i and have already ordered my M2C, so I'll be making the same jump as you. The rates for the M2C aren't out yet, but while ordering the M2C my SA used the M5 rates as a best guess which sit at 4.9%/5.9% to lease/finance here in Canada.

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Residuals on M2 are bad. Can't imagine M2C being better. If you lease as business tax deduction then not as bad but otherwise just wasting money.

[Cavpilot2k]

It will be no cheaper than financing for 60 months.

[YasF80_SLO]

I heard 44% residual...

[Jmo550]

44% isn't too bad ... but may finance at this point . Thanks guys was looking at rs3 but looks to blah...

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Originally Posted by Jmo550

44% isn't too bad ... but may finance at this point . Thanks guys was looking at rs3 but looks to blah...

M3/M4 is like 58-60%
44% is very bad

[Cavpilot2k]

RS3 is VERY blah.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

M3/M4 is like 58-60%
44% is very bad

He'll yeah it is. When I leased my M3 it was 63%

[Aaaaaaaaa]

Originally Posted by dmk08

He'll yeah it is. When I leased my M3 it was 63%

Noice. When was this?

[M3_WC]

36/10 - June (MY2018)
M4 - 57%
M3 - 61%
M2(N55) - 47%

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by pheerIx

Noice. When was this?

Christmas 2014

[SeñorDuc]

I’ve little knowledge of leasing and will purchase my M2C; however, reading a residual value of 44-47% really has me rethinking the purchase.

BMW has a good grasp of vehicles future values. Do they really nose dive to that degree?

I’m under no illusion that vehicles don’t lose value but that is astronomical.

[DasMonkey]

BMW and many manufacturers set their residuals for all sorts of different reasons that many times that have nothing to do with projected actual resale value. Just a couple as they apply to BMW:

-BMW has been famous for 'subsidizing' their leases by putting out let's just say 'optimistic' residual percentages in order to drive sales volume (i.e. they pump up the percentage in order to make the payments go down to sell more cars).

-By playing with the residual values they can control their incoming used fleet and have a steady supply of profitable 'certified used' vehicles.

As for specifically the M2C: Many times specialty or low volume enthusiast type cars have zero incentives and very crappy lease rates. I remember looking at maybe leasing a 1M when they came around and it was a similar situation residual wise. It makes sense from BMW's standpoint: these are low volume cars that demand will most likely exceed supply and people will line up to pay MSRP. Why bother leasing them which involves some measure of risk and effort on BMW's part. I think what they are saying is: here's this cool car you guys wanted, now buy it. Sure, we WILL lease it to you, but we really would rather not, so we will make the numbers to where if you really want to lease, we get added profit.

[Apachesmith]

Originally Posted by DasMonkey

BMW and many manufacturers set their residuals for all sorts of different reasons that many times that have nothing to do with projected actual resale value. Just a couple as they apply to BMW:

-BMW has been famous for 'subsidizing' their leases by putting out let's just say 'optimistic' residual percentages in order to drive sales volume (i.e. they pump up the percentage in order to make the payments go down to sell more cars).

-By playing with the residual values they can control their incoming used fleet and have a steady supply of profitable 'certified used' vehicles.

As for specifically the M2C: Many times specialty or low volume enthusiast type cars have zero incentives and very crappy lease rates. I remember looking at maybe leasing a 1M when they came around and it was a similar situation residual wise. It makes sense from BMW's standpoint: these are low volume cars that demand will most likely exceed supply and people will line up to pay MSRP. Why bother leasing them which involves some measure of risk and effort on BMW's part. I think what they are saying is: here's this cool car you guys wanted, now buy it. Sure, we WILL lease it to you, but we really would rather not, so we will make the numbers to where if you really want to lease, we get added profit.

I fully concur

[SeñorDuc]

Makes sense. Appreciate the thoughts.

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by DasMonkey

BMW and many manufacturers set their residuals for all sorts of different reasons that many times that have nothing to do with projected actual resale value. Just a couple as they apply to BMW:

-BMW has been famous for 'subsidizing' their leases by putting out let's just say 'optimistic' residual percentages in order to drive sales volume (i.e. they pump up the percentage in order to make the payments go down to sell more cars).

-By playing with the residual values they can control their incoming used fleet and have a steady supply of profitable 'certified used' vehicles.

As for specifically the M2C: Many times specialty or low volume enthusiast type cars have zero incentives and very crappy lease rates. I remember looking at maybe leasing a 1M when they came around and it was a similar situation residual wise. It makes sense from BMW's standpoint: these are low volume cars that demand will most likely exceed supply and people will line up to pay MSRP. Why bother leasing them which involves some measure of risk and effort on BMW's part. I think what they are saying is: here's this cool car you guys wanted, now buy it. Sure, we WILL lease it to you, but we really would rather not, so we will make the numbers to where if you really want to lease, we get added profit.

Agree 100%, I also believe it is a way to steer people to a model with higher production. They simple don't have the production output to cope with more attractive lease rates. It certainly has nothing to do with future values, as you can see in the used market. M2's have held their values quite nicely compared to M3/M4.

[SeñorDuc]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

Agree 100%, I also believe it is a way to steer people to a model with higher production. They simple don't have the production output to cope with more attractive lease rates. It certainly has nothing to do with future values, as you can see in the used market. M2's have held their values quite nicely compared to M3/M4.

Everything I want hear!

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by DasMonkey

BMW and many manufacturers set their residuals for all sorts of different reasons that many times that have nothing to do with projected actual resale value. Just a couple as they apply to BMW:

-BMW has been famous for 'subsidizing' their leases by putting out let's just say 'optimistic' residual percentages in order to drive sales volume (i.e. they pump up the percentage in order to make the payments go down to sell more cars).

-By playing with the residual values they can control their incoming used fleet and have a steady supply of profitable 'certified used' vehicles.

As for specifically the M2C: Many times specialty or low volume enthusiast type cars have zero incentives and very crappy lease rates. I remember looking at maybe leasing a 1M when they came around and it was a similar situation residual wise. It makes sense from BMW's standpoint: these are low volume cars that demand will most likely exceed supply and people will line up to pay MSRP. Why bother leasing them which involves some measure of risk and effort on BMW's part. I think what they are saying is: here's this cool car you guys wanted, now buy it. Sure, we WILL lease it to you, but we really would rather not, so we will make the numbers to where if you really want to lease, we get added profit.

+1

This has been the case for the 1M and M2 and it will not change for the M2Comp.


The 1M held its value better than the E9x.

The M2 has likely done the same compared to the F80 and F82.

M2 comp will certainly hold its value better than the F80 and F82. Very similar car with same motor and same features and lower production volume.

M2 lease thread should be stickied as someone comes up with this sort of question every 3-4 months.