[_Ack_]

MT is really the only way to go. I've been driving that way since I was 16, and I'll continue until they stop making them, or our machine overlords stop allowing us to drive.

[ryem3]

Agree with another member, the manual is far from perfect. Better than an e92, but far from a Porsche. Not sure I'm sold enough to stay with the manual next time. Besides the shift speed, the ability to manage heavy traffic is a plus. I drove the current m3 and that manual is crap, IMHO. The s55 may have an impact on the shifting of the m2c.
Does anyone know if the tranny comes from the m3 or if it remains the same?

[Poochie]

M2 owners regrets for MT or DCT https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1504319

[Poochie]

If it was between this and a automatic M car, I would still take the stick.

It's way less effeminate..

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by ryem3

Agree with another member, the manual is far from perfect. Better than an e92, but far from a Porsche. Not sure I'm sold enough to stay with the manual next time. Besides the shift speed, the ability to manage heavy traffic is a plus. I drove the current m3 and that manual is crap, IMHO. The s55 may have an impact on the shifting of the m2c.
Does anyone know if the tranny comes from the m3 or if it remains the same?

It's the same MT in M3/M4 = M2/M2C

[stefan]

Curious how many people pick the auto box because they can't drive manual. It's ok to admit that. I suspect this is a large portion of drivers here, especially as the younger generation comes up and never even had the opportunity to learn. I imagine it's very intimidating to jump into 6mt on something like an M2 having not learned.

[brocurls]

Originally Posted by stefan

Curious how many people pick the auto box because they can't drive manual. It's ok to admit that. I suspect this is a large portion of drivers here, especially as the younger generation comes up and never even had the opportunity to learn. I imagine it's very intimidating to jump into 6mt on something like an M2 having not learned.

I'm planning on getting a manual M2C next year. Never driven a manual before at the age of 32. Quite embarrassing for me that my 5'4" fiance will drive it off the lot only for me to stall endlessly practicing in the dead of night.

Probably not smart to practice on a 400hp $62k car either but yolo

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by brocurls

I'm planning on getting a manual M2C next year. Never driven a manual before at the age of 32. Quite embarrassing for me that my 5'4" fiance will drive it off the lot only for me to stall endlessly practicing in the dead of night.

Probably not smart to practice on a 400hp $62k car either but yolo

If you have enough money to spend on a $62k car .. then you can afford a $1500 Honda, or even a $3500 BMW to learn on and probably sell it for the same amount Later on after your car comes in.

I learned to drive 4MT on my girlfriends high mileage Toyota pickup (valued at about the same as the cars above ) before I ever even owned a car ...

[stefan]

Originally Posted by brocurls

I'm planning on getting a manual M2C next year. Never driven a manual before at the age of 32. Quite embarrassing for me that my 5'4" fiance will drive it off the lot only for me to stall endlessly practicing in the dead of night.

Probably not smart to practice on a 400hp $62k car either but yolo

it will be VERY hard to learn on the m2 with how much power it has. I mean, yes, yolo, but do try to find a shitbox to destroy first!

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by stefan

Curious how many people pick the auto box because they can't drive manual. It's ok to admit that. I suspect this is a large portion of drivers here, especially as the younger generation comes up and never even had the opportunity to learn. I imagine it's very intimidating to jump into 6mt on something like an M2 having not learned.

The rev match will make it easy to learn to drive a rev match stick. Just wait until you have to drive a normal stick, then the fun begins

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by brocurls

I'm planning on getting a manual M2C next year. Never driven a manual before at the age of 32. Quite embarrassing for me that my 5'4" fiance will drive it off the lot only for me to stall endlessly practicing in the dead of night.

Probably not smart to practice on a 400hp $62k car either but yolo

My first car was a brand new manual Acura RSX Type S, I didn't know how to drive a stick, so my cousin drove it home. When I wanted to go somewhere, I would have to ask my him to drive me, in my car.. One night I got sick of asking him, so I took that bitch out myself.. I must of stalled like 50 times but two days later, I had basically taught myself on my own car to drive a manual.

All manual BMWs have this feature they don't really mention unofficially called "anti-stall" which allows you come off the clutch slowly, then the car automatically brings the RPMs up enough so the vehicle won't stall.. No need to modulate the throttle and slip the clutch to get the car going.. So freaking easy!

I taught this bimbo how to drive stick in my new 135i and car did not shut off once, thanks in part to the anti-stall feature. So I wouldn't be too worried about the M2C, as long as you and your fiancé are willing to learn, you'll be fine.. Good luck and thanks for #SavingTheManuals



https://amp.reddit.com/r/BMW/comment..._of_antistall/

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217916

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by stefan

Curious how many people pick the auto box because they can't drive manual. It's ok to admit that. I suspect this is a large portion of drivers here, especially as the younger generation comes up and never even had the opportunity to learn. I imagine it's very intimidating to jump into 6mt on something like an M2 having not learned.

Even many people who "drive" a manual don't actually know some of the most crucial things about driving a manual. I've met several people who proudly talk about how well they can drive a manual but when I ask them about rev matching or heel toe downshifting, most of the time there is this awkward silence and them looking at me as if I'm speaking a different language. I'm pretty sure that a good amount of manual drivers either don't know how to do these things or they never even heard of them at all.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by stefan

it will be VERY hard to learn on the m2 with how much power it has. I mean, yes, yolo, but do try to find a shitbox to destroy first!

I think if you let out the clutch from a stop it gives it some gas for you so it won't stall, is that true? With rev matching it seems like an easier car to learn on than an older car, though I guess you could say you're not really learning how to drive a real MT without hill hold and all that.

[Shankska]

I am coming from DCT to 6MT. I really do love the DCT transmission. It was a blast to drive. I will miss it, but new car, new engine, new transmission, same color. Had to change it up. I have an e46 M3 manual, so I know how to drive a manual of course. It is a dedicated track car tho. Heal toe is a must. I am not the best at it, but getting better every track day.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by akkando

I think if you let out the clutch from a stop it gives it some gas for you so it won't stall, is that true? With rev matching it seems like an easier car to learn on than an older car, though I guess you could say you're not really learning how to drive a real MT without hill hold and all that.

True! You don't have to touch the gas pedal to get the car going.

[Shankska]

Originally Posted by cntzl

True! You don't have to touch the gas pedal to get the car going.

What!?!? this is news to me. I have DCT, but wow. I thought the rev match was for down shifting. Shows how much I know.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Shankska

What!?!? this is news to me. I have DCT, but wow. I thought the rev match was for down shifting. Shows how much I know.

Rev match is for downshifting, you are correct. This something totally different.

[Shankska]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Rev match is for downshifting, you are correct. This something totally different.

I am getting 6MT on M2 comp, so glad I am learning this. Let me ask for clarification.

You press the clutch in, put the car in first gear, and then let out the clutch? You DO NOT have to press the accelerator??? what kind of sorcery is this.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Shankska

I am getting 6MT on M2 comp, so glad I am learning this. Let me ask for clarification.

You press the clutch in, put the car in first gear, and then let out the clutch? You DO NOT have to press the accelerator??? what kind of sorcery is this.

Of course you give it some gas if you are taking off from a stop and if you don't give any gas and if you let the clutch out at a fast pace you will stall the car. However, let's say you are parking your car into a tight space or you are in a stop-and-go traffic that's moving very slowly. If you want to move the car just a little bit at a slow pace, you can let the clutch out very slowly and the car will move without requiring the any gas input.

[Shankska]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Of course you give it some gas if you are taking off from a stop and if you don't give any gas and if you let the clutch out at a fast pace you will stall the car. However, let's say you are parking your car into a tight space or you are in a stop-and-go traffic that's moving very slowly. If you want to move the car just a little bit at a slow pace, you can let the clutch out very slowly and the car will move without requiring the any gas input.

Ok. LOL this is what I thought. I was reading it wrong. Thank goodness

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

The rev match will make it easy to learn to drive a rev match stick. Just wait until you have to drive a normal stick, then the fun begins

exactly.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Even many people who "drive" a manual don't actually know some of the most crucial things about driving a manual. I've met several people who proudly talk about how well they can drive a manual but when I ask them about rev matching or heel toe downshifting, most of the time there is this awkward silence and them looking at me as if I'm speaking a different language. I'm pretty sure that a good amount of manual drivers either don't know how to do these things or they never even heard of them at all.

rev matching as well as heel and toe shifting are advanced driving and/or racing talent skills.. .. not generic manual transmission driving talents.

Generic manual driving talent involves learning the friction point of the clutch, moving the shift selector between gears, and what gear to be in at the proper time in order to accelerate or decelerate