[Tag]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Many moons ago, when I pitched the 'M2 to M2C' trade-in idea to my wife, she asked me straightaway: "Wait a sec, is there anything wrong with your car ?". Kinda says it all (also about my wife).

Your answer should have been, yes it's missing a C (while holding a straight face).

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by Artemis

I agree.

Let's face it, an M2 trade-in for an M2 Competition right now, would be more emotional-driven decision-making, than rational-driven decision-making. Most will take a financial hit on the existing car and risk to get sucked deep into the options and M Performance Parts wormhole for the new car. Allow yourself to give it some thought, sleep over it and consider the things that matter most for you (the balance of interests, trade-offs, equation, etc.). Yes, it's all pretty personal. And what about the emotions surfacing when a nicely kitted out M2 Competition passes by ? Well, that's one of the trade-offs for the more rational-driven decision to keep the current car.

Many moons ago, when I pitched the 'M2 to M2C' trade-in idea to my wife, she asked me straightaway: "Wait a sec, is there anything wrong with your car ?". Kinda says it all (also about my wife).

For me - these decisions come easy. My wife is a Porsche driving gear head. She has her sights set on a 992 Targa. 50% of her DNA is German. Go figure.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Tag

Your answer should have been, yes it's missing a C (while holding a straight face).

"Oh yeah ? Well, then that's 'C' for the 'Couch' tonight !"

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by Tag

Your answer should have been, yes it's missing a C (while holding a straight face).

Not sure if I am just tired or not, but this made me Giggle Out Loud

[DelGriffith]

Particulate Filter.
If that makes it's way to the US, is that an easy delete with aftermarket exhaust, or is it more involved? Seems like a win-win for sound and weight if Akro or Dinan has a nice note....

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by DelGriffith

Particulate Filter.
If that makes it's way to the US, is that an easy delete with aftermarket exhaust, or is it more involved? Seems like a win-win for sound and weight if Akro or Dinan has a nice note....

Rejoice for US regulations!

• Is the particulate filter the reason the muffler is so large and will USA cars also be equipped with it?

BL: Yes, the particulate filter is the reason the muffler is so large at the back. The U.S. market will get an exhaust WITHOUT the filter. The filter is ONLY for Europe. The M Performance exhaust will also get the OPF filter installed. The U.S. market will NOT get the filter on the titanium M Performance exhaust.

[Bt12]

Do we know if the weight is in the engine? I might have missed it...

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by Bt12

Do we know if the weight is in the engine? I might have missed it...

Not known. Certainly some of the weight is from the extra cooling and closed deck block of the S55. Also switching from a single to dual path exhaust and the Otto particulate filter(Europe). Larger calipers and rotors. We’ll probably have to wait until an actual owner puts their car on some corner balance scales.

[gandapanda]

Originally Posted by Bluenose-2er

How about switching out the S55 for an N55?

Originally Posted by mtoosexy

Another way to save weight is to only fill you tank with up to 2 gallons of gas.

Originally Posted by Artemis

Another way to save weight is to not step into the car.

How about removing the front seats and sitting in the back and driving? Weight reduction PLUS moving weight to rear.

[KevM2]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

Exhaust would be first and foremost(Plus who rolls on stock exhaust these days?). M2C exhaust is going from single path to dual path. Also the dual valve muffler looks much larger and heavier. For example stock M4 exhaust weighs 69lbs. Other exhaust systems can range from 26lbs savings for Mperf to 41lbs savings for BMS exhaust.

M2 single path(stock left)
[IMG]https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.6sp...1593a6d053.jpg[/IMG]

M4 dual path(stock left)
[IMG]http://customers.precision-sport.com...t-Object-1.jpg[/IMG]

Also note, some of the deeper tone of the N55 M2 comes from it having a single path exhaust. Active Autowerkes and BMS both make single path exhaust for the M4. They have a much deeper tone than stock.
[IMG]https://cdn7.bigcommerce.com/s-zqu79...38;imbypass=on[/IMG]

AA Signature exhaust for M3/M4

Best S55 exhaust sound I've heard so far!

[BOhio]

Originally Posted by RocketBoots

Diet, exercise, staying away from cheese steaks (although they are so yummy). That could save 50-100 lbs.

Tight fitting leather clothes, puma race shoes, carbon fiber belt buckle; that should get you that extra 10 lbs and 20 hp.

Helium in the tires, plastic film instead of floor mats, no underwear under the clothing, keep the fuel tank 1/4 full at most, remove the tire inflator kit (does it even have one?), and John Lennon sunglasses instead of Richard Petty style.

And never have your car nearby when the filming of 'My 600 LB Life' is over for the day and the star's Uber ride doesn't show.

[BOhio]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Very likely a lot of the current M2 owners opt for *ultimate* weight saving on the M2 Competition: not buying the M2 Competition.

Perhaps our UK members can calculate how many pounds that saves... I'm thinking it is a few thousand at least!

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by DelGriffith

Let's start a think-tank.

Many of us are excited to move from the M2 to the M2Comp. I'm sure most track day enthusiasts are disappointed with the 55kg weight gain, all up front. Looking for ideas (on a budget) to decrease the forward weight on the M2Comp. CF hood is an obvious starter, but seems to only decrease by 10 lbs. Feel free to suggest other ways to negate the increases and try to stay near 50/50...

Avoid swiss cheese fondue... very bad for overall weight AND driving perf 🤪

[BOhio]

Originally Posted by Al1969

Avoid swiss cheese fondue... very bad for overall weight AND driving perf 🤪

What about raclette? Rösti?

We'll be in Switzerland for a week, starting Sept 22. Maybe I should just eat grass in the pastures with the beautiful dairy cattle.

[carl44]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

Zero confirmation it is all up front. Willing to bet switching to a dual path exhaust, adding a particulate filter, and the larger dual valued muffler...is defiantly a portion of the weight.

First we need an actual car on some corner balance scales, to get a realistic weight and the weight distribution.

Here https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1529257
carl

[SD08]

battery>

[Vintage]

I am starting with

1) rear seat delete
2) Forgelines GA1R Open Lug w/track tires
3) Akra or Eisenmann or AA exhaust

probably nothing else but I will stare at the M Performance carbon stuff and contemplate my wallet

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Vintage

I am starting with

1) rear seat delete
2) Forgelines GA1R Open Lug w/track tires
3) Akra or Eisenmann or AA exhaust

probably nothing else but I will stare at the M Performance carbon stuff and contemplate my wallet

The Air Conditioning system is about 60 lbs.

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by KevM2

Best S55 exhaust sound I've heard so far!

Whaou ... fully agree

[StLuis51]

Not sure if anyone has seen these or if it matters but I received a copy of my car's certificate of origin and it lists the cars shipping weight as 3498 lbs or 1587 kilos. Just trying to help with information.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by StLuis51

Not sure if anyone has seen these or if it matters but I received a copy of my car's certificate of origin and it lists the cars shipping weight as 3498 lbs or 1587 kilos. Just trying to help with information.

Is yours 6MT and no sunroof? That weight is probably not with a full tank of gas. Someone on the forum weighed his 6MT with slick top at ~3560lb (full tank).

[StLuis51]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Is yours 6MT and no sunroof? That weight is probably not with a full tank of gas. Someone on the forum weighed his 6MT with slick top at ~3560lb (full tank).

Yes mine is 6MT, no sunroof, executive pack.