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      09-08-2017, 05:49 PM   #1
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M2 going in for its 1st oil change.....

Can I request 5w-40 weight and will they use it? I think id prefer it to the 0-30.
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      09-08-2017, 08:08 PM   #2
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Anyone have any opinions or experience with this or are you just going with the 0-30 fill? Going in Monday morning
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Anyone have any opinions or experience with this or are you just going with the 0-30 fill? Going in Monday morning
Good question, I'd like to know as well. If its the same price I don't see why it should be a problem.
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What makes you think that 40W is better than the generally BMW engineer recommended 30W oil? Unless you are going pick something like a low viscosity 40W oil that is very close to a BMW 30W (which wouldn't be BMW oil) it is going to be thicker than BMW recommends and I would worry about long term reliability of all the engine valve train adjustments (e.g. vanos and valvetronic) that depend on proper oil viscosity to work properly.

Maybe one of the oil gurus can weight in, but that is my take on 30 vs 40 weight oil. I suppose if you are planning a lot of track time with the engine running at high temps, you could make an argument for the thicker oil as it may give some benefit in that situation, but nothing about your post suggests heavy track use.

edit: did some research and the 40W may be among the recommended oils. In that case, most of my argument is moot. FWIW, there are a lot of engine oil threads findable with a quick search with far more knowledgable posts than mine.
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Good question, I'd like to know as well. If its the same price I don't see why it should be a problem.
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seriously?
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Anyone have any opinions or experience with this or are you just going with the 0-30 fill? Going in Monday morning
use the options recommended by BMW. It is that simple.
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Also, since you're going into the dealer for the first time, if you have a paint treatment (e.g. I have CQuartz Finest) and/or prefer to wash/wax the car yourself, you may want to tell them not to run the car through their car wash.
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Also, since you're going into the dealer for the first time, if you have a paint treatment (e.g. I have CQuartz Finest) and/or prefer to wash/wax the car yourself, you may want to tell them not to run the car through their car wash.
Yep, I wouldn't rely on just verbally telling them, printout out a note and stick it on the dashboard...

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/attach...2&d=1436460788
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Yep, I wouldn't rely on just verbally telling them, printout out a note and stick it on the dashboard...

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/attach...2&d=1436460788
When my car goes to the dealer the interior is covered in DO NOT WASH print outs lol...
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Thanks guys. I take it most of you don't like dealer washes.
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Guys, please do a little searching around will ya. There are many threads on this in the technical area.

Here, this is worth a read> http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1261438

Oil discussions will never be resolved. Go by recommended viscosity or fly on your own. Everyone seems to have their own philosophy even though it is supposed to be science.
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Thanks guys. I take it most of you don't like dealer washes.
i dont mind them. i rarely wash my car lol.

i dont mind the 5w30 the dealership used. bmw says it works. that being said i switched out to 5w40 in prep for my upcoming track days this fall (5w40 being ok to use per bmw)

any bmw ll-01 certified oil is good. and i think those only come in 0w40, 5w30 and 5w40
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Just an FYI, my dealer would not use any 40 weight oil in my car. I got the 5w-30 treatment.
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Going in on Friday for 1200 mile service, I'm not even concerned what they will use, must be blind faith.
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Just got my car back from its 1200 mile service (went in at only 1007 miles). Printed out a banner that says "DO NOT WASH"and left it on the dash. dropped off the car and SA even made a joke, "oh, so i guess you want us to give the car a good wash?", and thought we were cool. got the text saying work is done so came to pick up the car. sure enough, those bloody buggers STILL washed my friggin car!

anyhow, i attached the invoice for reference
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Just got my car back from its 1200 mile service (went in at only 1007 miles). Printed out a banner that says "DO NOT WASH"and left it on the dash. dropped off the car and SA even made a joke, "oh, so i guess you want us to give the car a good wash?", and thought we were cool. got the text saying work is done so came to pick up the car. sure enough, those bloody buggers STILL washed my friggin car!

anyhow, i attached the invoice for reference
I did same thing and made them give me a credit to have a full detail since their terrible washes leave swirl marks
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I did same thing and made them give me a credit to have a full detail since their terrible washes leave swirl marks
and they actually gave you the credit?
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I did same thing and made them give me a credit to have a full detail since their terrible washes leave swirl marks
and they actually gave you the credit?

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When my car goes to the dealer the interior is covered in DO NOT WASH print outs lol...
Where do you take yours for service in the Bay Area? Any complaints?
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Where do you take yours for service in the Bay Area? Any complaints?
Peter Pan. It's hard to get them to do stuff sometimes. For example it was hard to get them to update the brake shields when they were getting rocks in them and making horrible noises. I had the part number of the new ones but they didn't want to replace them unless their tech could hear the sound even though I recorded two video of it.

I eventually convinced them to do it and after that they have been more willing to just deal with an issue rather than go around in circles with me ten times first.
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I'm in the south of the Bay Area, and I have two dealers near me, and another not too far away.

Stevens Creek BMW and BMW of Mountain View are about equidistant from my home, and BMW of Freemont is not that far from where I work.

Any of you local folks know which of these is best for servicing?

I really don't want them washing my car, that would really put me off going to that dealer again. I have a mirror hanger that I use these days because I've had several times where the SA has written 'Do not wash' on the notes, and it's been washed anyway. The mirror hanger has worked for the last couple of services at Jaguar on Stevens Creek; nothing seemed to work before I had that!
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