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      10-23-2014, 11:14 AM   #133
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If 19 inch wheels, LED lights, upgraded sound, navigation, and DCT can be had for under 60K that would be fantastic.
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      10-23-2014, 12:20 PM   #134
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For 54k usd starting price it better come with NAV. I'd rather pay less and just have apple car play though.
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I would actually pay a small premium for iDrive (incl NAV) delete. It's worse than useless.
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The M3 has a lot of money tied up in the motor, with all those coolers and boost control ect.

I would expect that this car should be around 12k less than the M3, even if it has all of the chassis goodness of the M3.

As pumped as I am about the M2, Id rather have a 'base' M3 with a stick and no options than an M2 with a few options if the price difference was only 5-7 grand.
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Does anyone have a new guess as to what the price will be? I'm thinking it starts at 52, but hoping for 49 k (USD).
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      12-14-2014, 03:02 PM   #138
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Does anyone have a new guess as to what the price will be? I'm thinking it starts at 52, but hoping for 49 k (USD).
I wouldnt say 49, its too close to the 235. My guess is 53 (give or take a grand)
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I would actually pay a small premium for iDrive (incl NAV) delete. It's worse than useless.
Same here, I would pay to get the rid of the display and i-Drive.
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      12-14-2014, 08:44 PM   #140
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Does anyone have a new guess as to what the price will be? I'm thinking it starts at 52, but hoping for 49 k (USD).
I still think there's a good chance it'll be right at 50k ish. I'm basing that off what the CLA45 AMG costs
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      12-14-2014, 10:34 PM   #141
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The M3 has a lot of money tied up in the motor, with all those coolers and boost control ect.

I would expect that this car should be around 12k less than the M3, even if it has all of the chassis goodness of the M3.

As pumped as I am about the M2, Id rather have a 'base' M3 with a stick and no options than an M2 with a few options if the price difference was only 5-7 grand.
I have a funny feeling that it will end up being the case.
Mostly due to the fact that you'll be able to get an M3 for close to or at ED Invoice whereas the M2 will be new and demand a higher price out of the gate...
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I still think there's a good chance it'll be right at 50k ish. I'm basing that off what the CLA45 AMG costs
I hope your right, that would be fantastic.
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I hope your right, that would be fantastic.
The AMG starts at $48.5. I can't imagine BMW going and making the M2 $55k or something like that. Just way too big of a gap IMHO.
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      12-15-2014, 09:25 AM   #144
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The AMG starts at $48.5. I can't imagine BMW going and making the M2 $55k or something like that. Just way too big of a gap IMHO.
Well I have got half that saved so far, so keeping it at AMG competitive pricing would be great.
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The AMG starts at $48.5. I can't imagine BMW going and making the M2 $55k or something like that. Just way too big of a gap IMHO.
I think BMW has to worry about their own product pricing here, and finding the sweet spot between M235i and M4. Pricing for the entry-level AMG and M cars would seem to be good benchmarks for alignment, but IMO the CLA45 is only marginally a competitor... Small I4 vs 3.0 I6, coupe vs. "coupey" sedan, FWD-biased AWD vs RWD.

A $49k M2 is uncomfortably close to a mildly optioned M235i. A $55k M2 better lines up with M235i pricing, but then starts to squeeze into M4 territory after adding some options. Quite the dilemma for BMW.
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      12-15-2014, 10:30 AM   #146
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I think BMW has to worry about their own product pricing here, and finding the sweet spot between M235i and M4. Pricing for the entry-level AMG and M cars would seem to be good benchmarks for alignment, but IMO the CLA45 is only marginally a competitor... Small I4 vs 3.0 I6, coupe vs. "coupey" sedan, FWD-biased AWD vs RWD.

A $49k M2 is uncomfortably close to a mildly optioned M235i. A $55k M2 better lines up with M235i pricing, but then starts to squeeze into M4 territory after adding some options. Quite the dilemma for BMW.
I agree, but something tells me rather than being right in the middle of the M240i and M2, I think it's going to be on the closer side to the M240i. What they could do is make you add options to inflate the price (which wouldn't concern me really, not interesting in too many options anyway).

It'll be interesting for sure. Also, I think they have to watch out for the F80 as well. While it may not be a coupe, if the price between an M2 and M3 is close enough (M3 starts lower than M4), I can see many people not being too interested in the M2 IMHO.

I honestly think very low $50k is doable (with no options).
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      12-15-2014, 02:59 PM   #147
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I say 60k loaded.
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      12-15-2014, 03:54 PM   #148
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There's my speculated guesstimation.
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I'd be happy with a stripper M2 under 55k
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      12-15-2014, 06:24 PM   #150
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A loaded (bloated?) 435i can get damn close to 60k, which would logically put the M2 at 55-57k... which will still be a great car with a stick and no bs like $8k carbon brakes or parking sensors and cameras- which of course is ridiculous on any car smaller than a suburban... oh wait, our gov't will require back up cameras on all cars, because people cannot turn their fat bodies to look at a mirror, just as they cannot unscrew a valve stem to check tire pressure.

Continuing my off topic rant... I would almost be OK with mandatory car cameras, if they used the money charged for the damn things to subsidize advanced driver training for anyone with a license.
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I agree, but something tells me rather than being right in the middle of the M240i and M2, I think it's going to be on the closer side to the M240i. What they could do is make you add options to inflate the price (which wouldn't concern me really, not interesting in too many options anyway).

It'll be interesting for sure. Also, I think they have to watch out for the F80 as well. While it may not be a coupe, if the price between an M2 and M3 is close enough (M3 starts lower than M4), I can see many people not being too interested in the M2 IMHO.

I honestly think very low $50k is doable (with no options).
I thought a bit more about this pricing structure within BMW's own lineup, using the online model comparison tool. After comparing the 550i @ $65k with the 650i GC @ $90k, I've come to the conclusion that BMW will price the M2 however the hell they want to as long as they make some sort of pre-defined margin per car. They will take into account any possible cannibalization of sales of the higher margin cars, conquest sales from other brands, moon phase, beard length of the master brewer over at Spaten, etc, etc. Nothing else explains how they figured out a $15k difference for two cars with, as far as I can tell, identical content but with one having a lower roof and swoopy rear window.
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I would actually pay a small premium for iDrive (incl NAV) delete. It's worse than useless.
Same here, I would pay to get the rid of the display and i-Drive.
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Don't like it. Don't want it. Older head unit and steering wheel controls please. Bluetooth speaker/headset is the only new feature I want.
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Same here, I would pay to get the rid of the display and i-Drive.
When was that ever an option on any BMW?
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For all those that want raw and no fancy Idrive etc just buy a 1M no???

This car will have idrive, and it won't be an option to delete, hopefully nav is included too IMO.
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