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      03-03-2020, 03:25 PM   #89
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I'm thinking to go to 265/30 and 285/30. Based on my calculations the sidewall difference from stock will be just a little bit shorter with 30's so should work out fairly well.
Dinan chose the 265/30 • 285/30 combo and the fit is perfect. Of course, they are on 9.5/10.5, but you get the picture.
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I'm thinking to go to 265/30 and 285/30. Based on my calculations the sidewall difference from stock will be just a little bit shorter with 30's so should work out fairly well.
Dinan chose the 265/30 • 285/30 combo and the fit is perfect. Of course, they are on 9.5/10.5, but you get the picture.
I think Dinan hit it out of the park on those rims.... they look great
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I think Dinan hit it out of the park on those rims.... they look great
They're Forgeline GA1R's, and uber expensive. But yeah, beautiful and bad-ass for sure.
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Issue with the 265/30 + 285/30 19 combo setup is tyres choice are very limited
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Would I be asking for odd handling if I did 245/35/19 and 295/30/19?

I didn't search the whole thread - but standard ride height on MPS should still be good for the 295/30/19 correct?

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Would I be asking for odd handling if I did 245/35/19 and 295/30/19?

I didn't search the whole thread - but standard ride height on MPS should still be good for the 295/30/19 correct?

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Increased understeer. If you don't push your car to the limit on corners then it's not a big deal.
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Increased understeer. If you don't push your car to the limit on corners then it's not a big deal.
Found the other thread regarding this topic...I'd be curious to actually try it to see how much it increases understeer (or decreases oversteer) on track at the limit...

But thanks - unfortunately, the cheap 295/30/19s on Craigslist sold already :-/
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I'd be curious to actually try it to see how much it increases understeer (or decreases oversteer) on track at the limit...
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yeah, I mean, I get the idea of contact patch...was actually just curious if people had real-world experience with 245/295 - doesn't really matter at this point since the tires sold

Will probably just do 265/295 if I get PS4S
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yeah, I mean, I get the idea of contact patch...was actually just curious if people had real-world experience with 245/295 - doesn't really matter at this point since the tires sold

Will probably just do 265/295 if I get PS4S
I just put some 285/30r19 Conti Extremecontact sports on the rear because my PSS front still have tread left. The car understeers really bad with Traction Control on, it has so much rear push now that I'm debating what do while running stocks. I would love to get some wheels soon. I'm about to sell these new tires and do the 265/295 PS4s combo, not sure I want to take the $$ risk of getting 255 front and it doesn't deliver (they don't make my tires in a 265/30r19 HUGE oversight on my end) Going on a driving roadtrip soon to the mountains and need to fix it asap, but with traction control off it's alright
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I just put some 285/30r19 Conti Extremecontact sports on the rear because my PSS front still have tread left. The car understeers really bad with Traction Control on, it has so much rear push now that I'm debating what do while running stocks. I would love to get some wheels soon. I'm about to sell these new tires and do the 265/295 PS4s combo, not sure I want to take the $$ risk of getting 255 front and it doesn't deliver (they don't make my tires in a 265/30r19 HUGE oversight on my end) Going on a driving roadtrip soon to the mountains and need to fix it asap, but with traction control off it's alright
Understeers where? And yeah, two different compounds are probably upsetting the car more than the size difference (assuming the ExtremeContacts are also newer)
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Got it. I get the same with 285/35 4S just on Stage 1.

I do a lot of road trips in my cars when it’s not on track and I really don’t want the added noise and discomfort of a 71R. I’ve tried that before—love the grip of the 71R, hate the noise on road trips.

Thinking I’ll try the 295/30 4S on my OEM rims to see if giving up some grip is worth the comfort. And keep the the 71R and R7’s on track.
LOL!!!!!!!

71R's are one of the loudest tires I've ever rolled on. I made the mistake of trying them on my ND Miata. Even worse in a convertible...

Its funny they remind me of the old Yoko A048's which were unbearable on the street and sucked even more for track work...

One hell of a autocross track tire if you can tolerate the noise. I wish they made the BFG Rival 1.5's in more sizes for our cars. Those are really quiet, ride better and perform just as well as the RE71R's
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LOL!!!!!!!

71R's are one of the loudest tires I've ever rolled on. I made the mistake of trying them on my ND Miata. Even worse in a convertible...

Its funny they remind me of the old Yoko A048's which were unbearable on the street and sucked even more for track work...

One hell of a autocross track tire if you can tolerate the noise. I wish they made the BFG Rival 1.5's in more sizes for our cars. Those are really quiet, ride better and perform just as well as the RE71R's
What is all this talk of noise?

The 71R is the best road/track tire ever invented, despite the noise.

The comp A048 is utterly fantastic when used properly...and with the weight to carry it...which a Miata will not have.
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LOL!!!!!!!

71R's are one of the loudest tires I've ever rolled on. I made the mistake of trying them on my ND Miata. Even worse in a convertible...

Its funny they remind me of the old Yoko A048's which were unbearable on the street and sucked even more for track work...

One hell of a autocross track tire if you can tolerate the noise. I wish they made the BFG Rival 1.5's in more sizes for our cars. Those are really quiet, ride better and perform just as well as the RE71R's
Yeah, it’s pretty bad.

I wouldn’t call the Trofeo R a bad ass track tire, but I was shocked at how comfortable and quiet it is relative to its grip.
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just installed 265/285 re-71r way quieter than i was expecting guess we'll see how they are when they wear down. good Grip cold can't wait for first track day this week
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What is all this talk of noise?

The 71R is the best road/track tire ever invented, despite the noise.

The comp A048 is utterly fantastic when used properly...and with the weight to carry it...which a Miata will not have.
The original A048's were garbage. I had a free set sent to me for evaluation. Ran a set of 285/30/18's on my BSP E36M3.

They sucked for Solo 2, were barely stickier than the top street tires at that time and as I mentioned before were downright nasty loud on the street. I gave them away. Only tire I ever chucked.

As soon as I can finally get my car to the track I'll do a write up on the new Yoko A052's. They are proven to be faster than the re71r's for Solo 2 work and the few people I've seen online that have tracked then concur.

setup is 18x10's with 265/35 and 295/35's..
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The original A048's were garbage. I had a free set sent to me for evaluation. Ran a set of 285/30/18's on my BSP E36M3.

They sucked for Solo 2, were barely stickier than the top street tires at that time and as I mentioned before were downright nasty loud on the street. I gave them away. Only tire I ever chucked.
You're alone in your assessment, the A048 is fantastic in all my experience (I've had 9 sets for the Exige), and certainly kills street tires when it's warm, easily.

And why the hell are you complaining about the noise of a COMPETITION tire for the street? I mean, creampuff much?
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RE-71R has a *lot* of what a tire engineer calls "sizzle." It's where a tread feature traps and compresses air as it rotates into the contact area. When you cross pavement features (tar filled cracks, any white/yellow lines, etc), it's a higher frequency noise similar to bacon frying. It really doesn't bother me, especially since it's only on the way to/from an event. Something like the NT-01 can get really loud, initially with tread surface whine like an 18-wheeler and after some serious heat cycles so very loud roar especially at lower speeds.
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Something like the NT-01 can get really loud, initially with tread surface whine like an 18-wheeler and after some serious heat cycles so very loud roar especially at lower speeds.
They all get seriously loud after heat-cycling in my experience, even my ultra soft A005's, it's just the nature of the game.
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You're alone in your assessment, the A048 is fantastic in all my experience (I've had 9 sets for the Exige), and certainly kills street tires when it's warm, easily.

And why the hell are you complaining about the noise of a COMPETITION tire for the street? I mean, creampuff much?
Nope no creampuff here Bucko...Just explaining how crappy the old "medium" compound A048's were.

The set of A048's I ran was way back in 2004 or 2005. I'll bet they have been thru a few compound and construction changes since then. Those early sets heat cycled out fast, got real hard and sucked in the rain.

My review back to Yokohama was " they do everything a little better than street tires, but nothing stands out except the noise. I remember running on them one day at the track and I never gave so many point by's to my fellow instructors. I slid all over the track that day.

I've instructed and driven in several Lotus's and I don't remember any of the owners running on those tires at the track.



Here's a review from another track driver (2103).

Ran a set of medium-hard compound A048's for one season on my track car. Dry use only; no street use.Among the worst DOT-R tires I've ever used. They never had much grip to begin with, and what little grip they did have fell off rapidly after just a few heat cycles. All they do is make a ton of noise and slid around all over the place. I honestly think Hankook R-S3 street tires generate more outright grip than these Yokos. They're that bad.
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Nope no creampuff here Bucko...Just explaining how crappy the old "medium" compound A048's were.

The set of A048's I ran was way back in 2004 or 2005. I'll bet they have been thru a few compound and construction changes since then. Those early sets heat cycled out fast, got real hard and sucked in the rain.

My review back to Yokohama was " they do everything a little better than street tires, but nothing stands out except the noise. I remember running on them one day at the track and I never gave so many point by's to my fellow instructors. I slid all over the track that day.

I've instructed and driven in several Lotus's and I don't remember any of the owners running on those tires at the track.



Here's a review from another track driver (2103).

Ran a set of medium-hard compound A048's for one season on my track car. Dry use only; no street use.Among the worst DOT-R tires I've ever used. They never had much grip to begin with, and what little grip they did have fell off rapidly after just a few heat cycles. All they do is make a ton of noise and slid around all over the place. I honestly think Hankook R-S3 street tires generate more outright grip than these Yokos. They're that bad.
My experience is with the LTS version of the tire, which was made specifically for the Exige, so that might be where we differ.

Secondly, they were too expensive for track rats, who favored the R888 for track destruction.
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