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View Poll Results: Happy with your 6MT M2 when owning, driving the car?
I regret choosing the 6MT and wish I ordered the DCT 8 7.55%
The 6MT is not that great, but I rather have it then the DCT 8 7.55%
I love the 6MT in the M2 and I'm 100% happy with my choice 90 84.91%
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      10-14-2016, 06:43 AM   #1
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Owners with a 6MT regretting their choice?

Just wondering if there are people who ordered their M2 with the manual transmission and regreted their decision after living with the car for some time?
After much doubt, reading reviews and testdriving both (manaul + DCT)....The 6MT gearbox in the M2 is not perfect, but in the end I liked it bit more then the DCT version and I ordered my M2 with manual transmission. Delivery is in 1,5 months and I'm very exited that the car is coming....but the choice of the gearbox keeps buzzing in the back of my mind.

For me the gearbox was a difficult decision and I hope that after some time owning the M2 I still feel that I made the right decision of ordering the 6MT. But only time will tell!
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Love it after a month and a half. Had a long drive back from the PCD and it was never a burden. Have done traffic jams every now and then and still not a burden.

Its much more engaged than a DCT so my preference was being more involved while driving the car than being faster.
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I don't even have my car yet but can tell you I'm 100% happy with my choice. If the M2 was DCT only, I wouldn't have bought it.
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Love my 6spd. A agree with the post above...if manual wasn't an option i wouldn't have purchased one.
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Love the manual in my M2.

It does feel good and shifts well for my needs. I like the rev-match features.

If I was looking for performance only, I would have gone with DCT. But I am in the old-school clan and I vote to save the manual even if I think there will be more M2 with DCTs.

You are doing a good choice. (I would have said the same thing if it was a DCT, because it is YOUR car).

Notes:
- it is not my daily driver, but my DD is also a manual car
- I am not a track rat
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It's definitely an above average transmission setup with the 6MT.

The clutch is a touch light and long, with the engagement point somewhat high, but it isn't a deal breaker. The feel of it is pretty easy to adapt to. The shifter throws could be about 10% shorter. It's not an S2000 or B5 S4 transmission. But I'd put it on par or slightly better than my E36.

I will say, though, that the 6th gear ratio was squarely designed for the track and autobahn, with not nearly enough overdrive for the North American road market. At 80mph, the difference between 5th and 6th is very, very small, which leaves you cruising at about 3k RPM.
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Best choice I ever made. Comming from "manual - SMG - manual - DCT" to my M2 I can report that the 6MT is far better than in the E92 M3 and much more emotional than the DCT in my former Z435is.

I hated the auto blip in the beginning, but now I really love it. Best feature for a 6MT. I only hate that I have to put myself in danger to turn it of, but ok, I can live with it.

I also noticed from some reports here, that the clutch feeling seem to be different in the US compard to German. I was not able to mount the Burger clutch stop mod in my car, because it is simply not needed and does not work with my EU spec.
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Really happy with the 6MT. Came from a 7MT in a base 991 and this just works so much better when pushing.
Haven't tried the DCT though so can't judge that but was not a fan of PDK when I used that in a 997.
I like the fact that there is rev matching when I'm feeling lazy and that you can still turn everything off when on track before you get your new tyre
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Thanks for the replies and thanks for voting
I received an email today that my M2 will be deliverd to me in 3-4 weeks time and this also means I can not change any specifications anymore... Manual M2 is coming...!
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You will NOT be disappointed. The M2 manual is excellent (not perfect)! It's simply a pleasure to use; I think this is one of my favorite parts of the car. This is controversial, but I love the auto-rev match, even though I know how to heel-and-toe downshift. I drive in the DFW metroplex, and I have wished for an automatic (aka DCT) exactly zero times. I honestly wish I could shift it more often, and I drive about 40 miles each day 50/50% highway/city.

Note, I did drive the M4 with DCT one time , and I thin it's an awesome choice if you don't know how to drive a manual or if you have a lower extremity disability.
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it's an awesome choice if you don't know how to drive a manual or if you have a lower extremity disability.
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You will NOT be disappointed. The M2 manual is excellent (not perfect)! It's simply a pleasure to use; I think this is one of my favorite parts of the car. This is controversial, but I love the auto-rev match, even though I know how to heel-and-toe downshift. I drive in the DFW metroplex, and I have wished for an automatic (aka DCT) exactly zero times. I honestly wish I could shift it more often, and I drive about 40 miles each day 50/50% highway/city.

Note, I did drive the M4 with DCT one time , and I thin it's an awesome choice if you don't know how to drive a manual or if you have a lower extremity disability.
Where in D/FW are you? I have seen 2 other M2 so far, a white one and MG...

To address the topic of this thread, I voted that I'm thrilled with my 6MT. Agreed with bi0hazard that even with spending plenty of time in traffic I am not bothered.
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It's definitely an above average transmission setup with the 6MT.

The clutch is a touch light and long, with the engagement point somewhat high, but it isn't a deal breaker. The feel of it is pretty easy to adapt to. The shifter throws could be about 10% shorter. It's not an S2000 or B5 S4 transmission. But I'd put it on par or slightly better than my E36.

I will say, though, that the 6th gear ratio was squarely designed for the track and autobahn, with not nearly enough overdrive for the North American road market. At 80mph, the difference between 5th and 6th is very, very small, which leaves you cruising at about 3k RPM.
The need for a 7th od gear in this car is my only gripe about the 6mt.
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I really didn't care for it at first (came from a 135 with DCT) and wish i would of got DCT after a few weeks of driving the car. But once i got past the break in period and also installed BMS clutch stop, it's been great and no regrets now
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The need for a 7th od gear in this car is my only gripe about the 6mt.
Yeah, the fact I cruise on the highway at 3500 is odd since it's not an '84 Civic.
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I really didn't care for it at first (came from a 135 with DCT) and wish i would of got DCT after a few weeks of driving the car. But once i got past the break in period and also installed BMS clutch stop, it's been great and no regrets now
Did you leave all the washers on the clutch stop?
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Did you leave all the washers on the clutch stop?
Yep, i heard people removing one or two but i decided just to leave them all on and install it. Felt great when i drove it so i left it alone.
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The need for a 7th od gear in this car is my only gripe about the 6mt.
Yeah, the fact I cruise on the highway at 3500 is odd since it's not an '84 Civic.
Agree! Needs a seventh gear!
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What a loaded survey question. Sheesh!

"How much do you hate your transmission?"
"When did you stop beating your wife?"
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What a loaded survey question. Sheesh!

"How much do you hate your transmission?"
"When did you stop beating your wife?"
Loaded?
The 6MT vs DCT choice is in my opinion the most difficult decision in ordering the M2... It's nice to see, that most owners don't regret their decision when opting the 6MT.
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6mt here for me. Had dct on my f80 2016. Nothing beats a manual transmission still
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It's definitely an above average transmission setup with the 6MT.

The clutch is a touch light and long, with the engagement point somewhat high, but it isn't a deal breaker. The feel of it is pretty easy to adapt to. The shifter throws could be about 10% shorter. It's not an S2000 or B5 S4 transmission. But I'd put it on par or slightly better than my E36.

I will say, though, that the 6th gear ratio was squarely designed for the track and autobahn, with not nearly enough overdrive for the North American road market. At 80mph, the difference between 5th and 6th is very, very small, which leaves you cruising at about 3k RPM.
It's nice to read about a few owners that came from a DCT back to a stick!

Typical bmw 6 speed ratios, unfortunately. Without looking I'd assume the M2 has a .85 6th gear, with 5th being 1:1.

I wish they had a taller 6th gear. Especially the new turbo cars (oh wait, they've been around for 9 years now :LOL that have so much more torque.

I had a GM car with a 6 speed, and 6th gear was like .6 so 75mph meant less than 2000 rpm.
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