BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
M2 Technical Topics > S55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning > Vague clutch engagment

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-27-2024, 12:14 PM   #1
ricko32
New Member
United_States
20
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: F87 M2C
Join Date: May 2019
Location: under the radar

iTrader: (0)

Vague clutch engagment

Recently I read a review of an M3 on Motor1.com by Chris Perkins. In this review, he states the manual 6-speed is not the greatest.

" I wish I didn’t feel so conflicted about the manual transmission. The six-speed makes this car more engaging, for sure, and I’m so glad it’s available as an option, but it’s just not a great gearbox in every scenario. Clutch engagement feels vague and the throttle calibration and gearing are such that it’s difficult to get off to a smooth start and quickly execute a clean 1-2 upshift in succession"

I have been driving a stick for many many years and would have to say I agree with this statement in my 2020 M2c. Kind of disappointing.
Appreciate 0
      01-30-2024, 10:24 AM   #2
philth
Private
philth's Avatar
199
Rep
91
Posts

Drives: F87 N55
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: North

iTrader: (1)

Appreciate 0
      02-09-2024, 09:22 AM   #3
Enabled
Lieutenant Colonel
1410
Rep
1,803
Posts

Drives: 328xd Wagon, M2 Competition
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ricko32 View Post
Recently I read a review of an M3 on Motor1.com by Chris Perkins. In this review, he states the manual 6-speed is not the greatest.

" I wish I didn’t feel so conflicted about the manual transmission. The six-speed makes this car more engaging, for sure, and I’m so glad it’s available as an option, but it’s just not a great gearbox in every scenario. Clutch engagement feels vague and the throttle calibration and gearing are such that it’s difficult to get off to a smooth start and quickly execute a clean 1-2 upshift in succession"

I have been driving a stick for many many years and would have to say I agree with this statement in my 2020 M2c. Kind of disappointing.
Pretty much true.
Remove the clutch delay valve, flush the clutch fluid, install a rear shifter bushing (such as the Turner one), and then get a tune that modifies the throttle control.

I make a very specific tune for the S55 that manages the throttle control a lot better and more linear, removes revhang, and helps with some of the shifting.
__________________
-2014 328d Wagon, 8HP. Self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs.
-2019 M2 Competition MT, Alpine White. Self-tuned 560hp
-2016 Mini Cooper S, MT. Many plans.
Others:
-E36 328is. 2000 Z3 Roady. 2003 VW Jetta TDI Manual. Estoril Z3M Coupe.
Appreciate 1
chris7197334.00
      02-09-2024, 10:19 AM   #4
maxcbrdriver
Second Lieutenant
168
Rep
287
Posts

Drives: 2010 BMW 535xiT; 2021 BMW M2C
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: NJ

iTrader: (1)

Between the CDV delete and the AS SSK, I feel that my 1-2 shift is pretty smooth. Not sure which of those parts contributed the most as I installed together, but the overall shift feeling is significantly better. As I understand it, the "modifications" that Toyota did for the Supra 6mt are basically just changes to the linkages and bushings and all of a sudden it's great, but those changes are what the AS SSK also does.
Appreciate 2
Enabled1410.00
chris7197334.00
      02-13-2024, 05:45 PM   #5
chris719
Major General
7334
Rep
7,298
Posts

Drives: '08 M Roadster
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by maxcbrdriver View Post
Between the CDV delete and the AS SSK, I feel that my 1-2 shift is pretty smooth. Not sure which of those parts contributed the most as I installed together, but the overall shift feeling is significantly better. As I understand it, the "modifications" that Toyota did for the Supra 6mt are basically just changes to the linkages and bushings and all of a sudden it's great, but those changes are what the AS SSK also does.
It's hard to say what they did, because the Supra and Z4 now have a completely different transmission from F8x and G8x. It also can handle more torque. I wonder if it will ever surface in the G8x. I mean, it's a different part number and derived from the 6 speed that was in the base Z4, not from the GS6-45BZ. I'm sure it shares a lot of parts but it is different.
Appreciate 0
      02-13-2024, 05:49 PM   #6
chris719
Major General
7334
Rep
7,298
Posts

Drives: '08 M Roadster
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ricko32 View Post
I have been driving a stick for many many years and would have to say I agree with this statement in my 2020 M2c. Kind of disappointing.
It's not wrong, but this car is buttery smooth compared to a Z4M in terms of shifting when cruising around town. Drive one of those, if you're not perfect it's one of the jerkiest experiences you'll ever have.
Appreciate 1
gnx759.50
      03-01-2024, 02:13 PM   #7
pt8o
New Member
12
Rep
10
Posts

Drives: M2C
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Melbourne

iTrader: (0)

CDV is a must on the M2, was quite annoying shifting before the mod.

Definitely also recommend either AS SSK or a solid mount shifter, ECS Trans mounts.

Funny enough, the shoes I wear make a difference too - I find it hard to drive wearing runners, so I usually only wear chucks when driving
Appreciate 1
chris7197334.00
      03-01-2024, 03:24 PM   #8
chris719
Major General
7334
Rep
7,298
Posts

Drives: '08 M Roadster
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enabled View Post
Pretty much true.
Remove the clutch delay valve, flush the clutch fluid, install a rear shifter bushing (such as the Turner one), and then get a tune that modifies the throttle control.

I make a very specific tune for the S55 that manages the throttle control a lot better and more linear, removes revhang, and helps with some of the shifting.
Do you also do S58 if unlocked by Femto first?
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:00 PM.




m2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST