[Artemis]

Talkin' about success. Compare with this December 2015 article:

Rumor: BMW M2 Production Pegged at 10,000 – US to Get Around 1,800
By Gabriel Bridger - December 17, 2015
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2015/12/17...pped-at-10000/
BimmerFile has recently learned that BMW’s current plan is to produce around 10,000 M2 during the car’s lifecycle. However it’s important to note that doesn’t mean it will be limited if early sales are through the roof. The 10,000 figure is due to expected demand correlated with the need production molds every so many thousand vehicles produced.
US production figures are perhaps more interesting. Assuming product planners are right with demand and the 10,000 figure holds, BMW is planning on importing just under 2,000 M2s. That is a massive increase over the 740 units BMW sold of the 1M in the US market. Good for those who want the car. Bad for resale value.
Interestingly the 1M’s production figures doubled when BMW (due to demand) decided to invest in new production molds that doubled the life of production of number produced (from 2,700 to over 5,000. However BMWNA held to it’s advertised one year model cycle and declined the opportunity t import more.
The M2 will debut at the Detroit Motor Show with full pricing and US specifications to be announced. Expect the first cars to roll into US dealerships in March of 2016.

First-generation M2 life-cycle = 2015-2020.

[m34m]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Talkin' about success. Compare with this December 2015 article:

Rumor: BMW M2 Production Pegged at 10,000 – US to Get Around 1,800
By Gabriel Bridger - December 17, 2015
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2015/12/17...pped-at-10000/
BimmerFile has recently learned that BMW’s current plan is to produce around 10,000 M2 during the car’s lifecycle. However it’s important to note that doesn’t mean it will be limited if early sales are through the roof. The 10,000 figure is due to expected demand correlated with the need production molds every so many thousand vehicles produced.
US production figures are perhaps more interesting. Assuming product planners are right with demand and the 10,000 figure holds, BMW is planning on importing just under 2,000 M2s. That is a massive increase over the 740 units BMW sold of the 1M in the US market. Good for those who want the car. Bad for resale value.
Interestingly the 1M’s production figures doubled when BMW (due to demand) decided to invest in new production molds that doubled the life of production of number produced (from 2,700 to over 5,000. However BMWNA held to it’s advertised one year model cycle and declined the opportunity t import more.
The M2 will debut at the Detroit Motor Show with full pricing and US specifications to be announced. Expect the first cars to roll into US dealerships in March of 2016.

First-generation M2 life-cycle = 2015-2020.

Artemis you're going to have to spell this out for me. Are you saying the initial projections were accurate?

[reppucci]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Talkin' about success. Compare with this December 2015 article:

Rumor: BMW M2 Production Pegged at 10,000 – US to Get Around 1,800
By Gabriel Bridger - December 17, 2015
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2015/12/17...pped-at-10000/
BimmerFile has recently learned that BMW’s current plan is to produce around 10,000 M2 during the car’s lifecycle. However it’s important to note that doesn’t mean it will be limited if early sales are through the roof. The 10,000 figure is due to expected demand correlated with the need production molds every so many thousand vehicles produced.
US production figures are perhaps more interesting. Assuming product planners are right with demand and the 10,000 figure holds, BMW is planning on importing just under 2,000 M2s. That is a massive increase over the 740 units BMW sold of the 1M in the US market. Good for those who want the car. Bad for resale value.
Interestingly the 1M’s production figures doubled when BMW (due to demand) decided to invest in new production molds that doubled the life of production of number produced (from 2,700 to over 5,000. However BMWNA held to it’s advertised one year model cycle and declined the opportunity t import more.
The M2 will debut at the Detroit Motor Show with full pricing and US specifications to be announced. Expect the first cars to roll into US dealerships in March of 2016.

First-generation M2 life-cycle = 2015-2020.

Well Artemis ... Here you are! Looks like BMW is ahead of projections! Unless they stop with MY 2017

***Update*** Through early April 2017 11,750+/- M2's built see exact # breakdown below.

Total M2's built including 2016, 2017 Model year and preproduction. not yet sure if M2 S55 Mules are in these numbers:

5600 EH91 Euro LHD M2 through 3/23/17
3194 EH92 Euro RHD M2 through 4/5/2017
2822 EH93 NA M2 (US and Canada) through 4/5/2017

[VR-Tech]

Originally Posted by reppucci

Well Artemis ... Here you are! Looks like BMW is ahead of projections! Unless they stop with MY 2017

***Update*** Through early April 2017 11,750+/- M2's built see exact # breakdown below.

Total M2's built including 2016, 2017 Model year and preproduction. not yet sure if M2 S55 Mules are in these numbers:

5600 EH91 Euro LHD M2 through 3/23/17
3194 EH92 Euro RHD M2 through 4/5/2017
2822 EH93 NA M2 (US and Canada) through 4/5/2017

That's quite a lot for one year

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by m34m

Artemis you're going to have to spell this out for me. Are you saying the initial projections were accurate?

No, the M2 demand exceeded initial expectations, given the fact that the 10K sales scheduled for the first-gen life-cycle (2015-2020) are already achieved at an early stage of the life-cycle. M4 GTS got sold out quickly. Such facts get you a better case if you need to convince company bean counters that also M2 variants are worthwhile to produce: these will sell too and beneficial for the ///M brand.

The 1M (manual gearbox only): 2700 initially scheduled. In September 2011, BMW ramped up the 1M production in the BMW Leipzig factory and squeezed out as much car as materially possible. 6309 1M cars were produced (March 2011-June 2012). That's about 234% of the initial figure.

Due to its success, M2 production has also been increased in the meantime to meet customer demand. See the BMWBlog interview with BMW M boss Frank Van Meel at the 2017 Detroit Auto Show (January 2017) (01:18 to 03:13):

"For us the M4 GTS is and was a halo car which helped M a lot regarding communication in 2016. The cars were sold out immediately. What was more important for us was that this car, driving 07m28s on the Nürburgring, is within the super sportscar league, even though it is a series production car building its base. But it's typically what M stands for to bring that motorsports properties into a car that can also be used on everyday roads. And it also strengthened the performance of the M3/M4 as the base cars that were behind that. And we are really happy with that car and we still have a lot of demand even though it's already sold out for a long time. But there are many people saying «Please make another special car or more special cars». And we're going to react to these demands and bring more special cars in the future. Well, the M2 has exceeded everyone's expectations. The customer demand has been so big that we're still working on increasing our production volumes to fulfill our customer needs, but we plan to get it in balance again in the year 2017 so that we get more cars available for our customers. We do plan to continue this tradition of making special models, especially the fact that the demand for competition packages was/is so high with M3/M4 is for us a signal to continue this in the future with more models, as well as the fact that the M4 GTS was sold out immediately which also had a long tradition with M3 special models. But we're planning to do that more often, not only to wait 5 to 7 years, but to bring more special models on a shorter time base."

[MZWIE]

Damn shame they are producing more than 10,000.

[DETRoadster]

Originally Posted by MZWIE

Damn shame they are producing more than 10,000.

I agree with you in that it would be cool to have a limited run car. However, the thinking is short sighted. I hope BMW sells a million M2s. I really do. Why? Because it validates the idea that the Small car + Big Engine + RWD + Manual transmission formula still works and is in demand. The only thing that is keeping cars like the M2 from going extinct is customer demand and I for one am grateful that demand for the M2 has been so high it's made the good folks at BMW wake up and realize that not everyone wants an SUV or an M4 that's the size of a football field.

[reppucci]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

I agree with you in that it would be cool to have a limited run car. However, the thinking is short sighted. I hope BMW sells a million M2s. I really do. Why? Because it validates the idea that the Small car + Big Engine + RWD + Manual transmission formula still works and is in demand. The only thing that is keeping cars like the M2 from going extinct is customer demand and I for one am grateful that demand for the M2 has been so high it's made the good folks at BMW wake up and realize that not everyone wants an SUV or an M4 that's the size of a football field.

Agree.... but who knows what BMW will do about the manual. Certainly the M2 formula will stick around!

In NA MY2016 about 40% chose manual

see here http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1272805

DCT 402 56.4%
6MT 311 43.6%

I would think that breakdown persisted through MY2017 (Much work to parse that out!)

Silver lining.....6 sp MT M2's, especially MY16 in BSM (total 28 in NA), might be in high demand if BMW decides to pull the plug on manuals going forward.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by reppucci

Here you are!

2865 Total North American M2 production through 4/5/2017 (USA and Canada)

714 MY2016 (includes all preproduction M2's)
2151 MY2017

I do not have euro LHD and RHD numbers (yet)

North American production is running about 300 M2 per month.

At some point I will have breakdown as I did for 2016 production;

i.e. color options canadian monthly production...but that may be a while

With 2865 as of 4/5/2017 and North American production at ~300/month...that means in 10 months time more will be imported in NA than have been sold to date unless that's not an expected future running average monthly rate? At that rate the M2 will be less rare than the E90 M3 (total 5867 imported) in less than a year from now.

[KnudsonM3]

Originally Posted by MZWIE

Damn shame they are producing more than 10,000.

Why is it a shame that a car company is making a lot of cars that are desired?

Its a BMW, not some Italian garage queen that gets revved at Sunday morning coffee 3 times a year during the summer.

[Artemis]

Cross-reference: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1404565 ("Pre-LCI M2 Production Data")

[reppucci]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Cross-reference: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1404565 ("Pre-LCI M2 Production Data")

Updated http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...6#post20093176 ("MY2016 North American M2 Production Numbers") to reflect SickFinga's excellent work by including the cross reference posted by Artemis http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1404565 ("Pre-LCI M2 Production Data")!

[chambolle]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

With 2865 as of 4/5/2017 and North American production at ~300/month...that means in 10 months time more will be imported in NA than have been sold to date unless that's not an expected future running average monthly rate? At that rate the M2 will be less rare than the E90 M3 (total 5867 imported) in less than a year from now.

So there may be, on average, about 125 M2s for each of the 50 states. That may not make this a screaming great investment vehicle, but it certainly doesn't mean you'll be running into a lot of other M2s at your local grocery store parking lot. Other than at the local dealer, I have yet to see another one here in Western Washington, where there may be a few dozen of them roaming around by now.

[EstorilM]

Originally Posted by chambolle

So there may be, on average, about 125 M2s for each of the 50 states. That may not make this a screaming great investment vehicle, but it certainly doesn't mean you'll be running into a lot of other M2s at your local grocery store parking lot. Other than at the local dealer, I have yet to see another one here in Western Washington, where there may be a few dozen of them roaming around by now.

I work in Seattle and have only seen 1 black M2 (once) and one blue one (once). I see an m3/m4 once a day at least. Still a rare car.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

I agree with you in that it would be cool to have a limited run car. However, the thinking is short sighted. I hope BMW sells a million M2s. I really do. Why? Because it validates the idea that the Small car + Big Engine + RWD + Manual transmission formula still works and is in demand. The only thing that is keeping cars like the M2 from going extinct is customer demand and I for one am grateful that demand for the M2 has been so high it's made the good folks at BMW wake up and realize that not everyone wants an SUV or an M4 that's the size of a football field.

All this.

As much as I'd love an exclusive....I'd love even more there to be continuation!

[F87_LCI]

Mine is yet to arrive, however I have only seen 2 M2s (LBB and MW) "in the wild" in a city of 6+M people. Granted it is Canada, so the M2 may not necessarily be considered by many as an 'acceptable' car to drive in the winter (I myself am looking at getting a winter beater for only the second time in my life). So rare are these cars here I had to harass a fellow board member (who cordially obliged) into meeting me just so I could see LBB in person for longer than a few fleeting seconds!

[MR.]

Jason maybe it is handy to make this topic sticky...

MR

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by MR.

Jason maybe it is handy to make this topic sticky...

MR

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Talkin' about success. Compare with this December 2015 article:

Rumor: BMW M2 Production Pegged at 10,000 – US to Get Around 1,800
By Gabriel Bridger - December 17, 2015
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2015/12/17...pped-at-10000/
BimmerFile has recently learned that BMW's current plan is to produce around 10,000 M2 during the car's lifecycle. However it's important to note that doesn't mean it will be limited if early sales are through the roof. The 10,000 figure is due to expected demand correlated with the need production molds every so many thousand vehicles produced.
US production figures are perhaps more interesting. Assuming product planners are right with demand and the 10,000 figure holds, BMW is planning on importing just under 2,000 M2s. That is a massive increase over the 740 units BMW sold of the 1M in the US market. Good for those who want the car. Bad for resale value.
Interestingly the 1M's production figures doubled when BMW (due to demand) decided to invest in new production molds that doubled the life of production of number produced (from 2,700 to over 5,000. However BMWNA held to it's advertised one year model cycle and declined the opportunity t import more.
The M2 will debut at the Detroit Motor Show with full pricing and US specifications to be announced. Expect the first cars to roll into US dealerships in March of 2016.

First-generation M2 life-cycle = 2015-2020.

lol. Indeed.

[MSurge]

The Competition is looking like it will be very low production compared to the total number of M2s, since it’s just going to be made for 1-2 model years.

[bobert]

Originally Posted by MSurge

The Competition is looking like it will be very low production compared to the total number of M2s, since it’s just going to be made for 1-2 model years.

It's all speculation at this point, but that's not what most ppl are expecting - the N55 M2 will only end up being in production for about 2.5 years, and it was built at lower volumes for 2016 (short year) and 2017. M2 Comp, which replaces the 'regular' one, has its production scheduled for just over 2 years, according to a production schedule posted on here a while back, which means it could end up being pretty close in volume. Not that everyone necessarily cares about that.