[jophish17]

Yes, the auto shifts appear to respond to how the car is being driven. I had the same experience - i was playing with the auto mode one day and it seemed like the car got "stuck" in a gear. I had to confirm that I haven't accidentally kicked in back into manual mode.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Saberwalk

Quick off-topic question about automatic use of the DCT. Is it me or are the shifts in Sport + acceleration dependent (forgive ignorance and improper terminology) In other words, if I accelerate slowly, the shifts will be nice and smooth, typically occurring at 2,500 to 3,000 rpm. If I floor off the line though, it goes from D1 to D2 really quickly, but will hold in 3rd or 4th almost to 5,000 rpm as if it is stuck. At one point I was accelerating hard and almost to 80 before it shifted to 4th.

Is this normal or should I have the shop look at it on my upcoming break in service. This does not happen in Sport or Comfort. I have been trying to baby the car but had this happen a couple of times when getting off an on ramp onto a highway and just want to make sure I am not damaging the DCT.

I looked here and on the M3/M4 forum but did not really see a discussion on point.

You're not damaging the DCT the concern would be the engine if you're holding high revs before the break in, though I would bet any damage would be minor and not show itself until late in the cars life or possibly never.

It's totally normal that Sport+ holds revs. Sport+ makes the assumption you want to drive fast so you probably want to be in lower gears and hold onto them as long as possible.

If you want to drive in Sport+ and keep the revs low then you should be manually shifting.

[MagnusT]

Originally Posted by akkando

If you want to drive in Sport+ and keep the revs low then you should be manually shifting.

= full control

[Saberwalk]

Originally Posted by akkando

You're not damaging the DCT the concern would be the engine if you're holding high revs before the break in, though I would bet any damage would be minor and not show itself until late in the cars life or possibly never.

It's totally normal that Sport+ holds revs. Sport+ makes the assumption you want to drive fast so you probably want to be in lower gears and hold onto them as long as possible.

If you want to drive in Sport+ and keep the revs low then you should be manually shifting.

Thanks. Did not reach 5,000 rpm so should be okay.

[amancuso]

I reached between 5-55K on 2 occasions but it was only there momentarily before shifting to the next gear. Not really concerned because it was really only momentary.

[MagnusT]

Yeah I was surprised when I was pre break in service that BMW hadn't adjusted the sport+ auto mode to prevent "over revving" until break in service was done. Since sport+ is quite aggressive going to high rpms even on light throttle. IMHO sport+ in auto was unusable during break in due to this.

[amancuso]

Find myself driving it in manual mode about 99% of the time.

[MagnusT]

I love driving MT, had a manual M3 for almost 10 years and all my cars before it were manuals too. I also love my DCT to bits. I don't want to start a MT vs DCT battle. But I do wonder, from a "love driving the DCT manually" perspective if the drivers who proclaim they never ever would consider a DCT and that MT feels more involved, is their MAIN issue manual choice of gear at all times or the control of the clutch pedal?

[amancuso]

Originally Posted by MagnusT

I love driving MT, had a manual M3 for almost 10 years and all my cars before it were manuals too. I also love my DCT to bits. I don't want to start a MT vs DCT battle. But I do wonder, from a "love driving the DCT manually" perspective if the drivers who proclaim they never ever would consider a DCT and that MT feels more involved, is their MAIN issue manual choice of gear at all times or the control of the clutch pedal?

I'm gonna go with the clutch pedal argument. My other 2 BMWs are a 5mt and 6mt. The feel or sensation you get while driving is very different. I love them (MT and DCT) for different reasons.

[MagnusT]

There certainly is an element of control of how you release the clutch and your choice of throttle at the same time. Many different ways of doing that. Aggressive, smooth and so on. Pushing down the clutch though is quite... meh! :-D

[amancuso]

Originally Posted by MagnusT

... Pushing down the clutch though is quite... meh! :-D

[qnet]

Originally Posted by Saberwalk

Quick off-topic question about automatic use of the DCT. Is it me or are the shifts in Sport + acceleration dependent (forgive ignorance and improper terminology) In other words, if I accelerate slowly, the shifts will be nice and smooth, typically occurring at 2,500 to 3,000 rpm. If I floor off the line though, it goes from D1 to D2 really quickly, but will hold in 3rd or 4th almost to 5,000 rpm as if it is stuck. At one point I was accelerating hard and almost to 80 before it shifted to 4th.

Is this normal or should I have the shop look at it on my upcoming break in service. This does not happen in Sport or Comfort. I have been trying to baby the car but had this happen a couple of times when getting off an on ramp onto a highway and just want to make sure I am not damaging the DCT.

I looked here and on the M3/M4 forum but did not really see a discussion on point.

Originally Posted by JB330Ci

I have similar experience in Sport+ coming out of a turn almost everytime. it would hold in D3 till ~5,000 RPM before shifting to D4. I think it's just the way the DCT is programmed or confused.

I actually have had that experience in sport-mode also. I agree with what akkando mentioned. It seems to depend on how aggressive you're driving. It surprised me the first time it happened.

[Saberwalk]

Thanks. I feel relieved. Was going to take it into the shop otherwise.

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by MagnusT

There certainly is an element of control of how you release the clutch and your choice of throttle at the same time. Many different ways of doing that. Aggressive, smooth and so on. Pushing down the clutch though is quite... meh! :-D

Originally Posted by amancuso

I'm gonna go with the clutch pedal argument. My other 2 BMWs are a 5mt and 6mt. The feel or sensation you get while driving is very different. I love them (MT and DCT) for different reasons.

Agree, MT is great to feel more direct power, but for me DCT is more polyvalent if in traffic jam and feels more secure when driving sport on track or mountain roads. And honestly the M2 DCT is pretty fast and hit well gear changes in sport mode

I drive D only when on highway or traffic jam, so never since I use the car 99% to run mountain roads

[Brake_Late]

Manual BSM Non Comp FS on showroom floor

[Shadowfax028]

Originally Posted by qnet

I'm probably going to get lambasted but I rarely used the paddles or manual mode on my M235i. I know the ZF-Auto isn't the same as the DCT, but I never got comfortable shifting with the paddles. My HPDE instructor suggested learning to use the paddles. I may put more effort into using manual-mode on the M2.

If you ever flash the TCM in that car you will change your mind. xHP makes a great flash.
totally changes the paradigm

[BigKutta]

I shift the DCT 100% of the time.

[JMM]

100% switching with the paddles.

With my previous E92 335d with xHP tune (Best upgrade ever on that car) I also always used the paddles.

It seems to be burned into my brain because when I occasionally drive my wife's manual car, I sometimes reach out to the steering wheel to change gears...hahaha.

Never a manual gearbox for me but at the same time the same goes for an automatic without shift paddles...

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by brake_late

manual bsm non comp fs on showroom floor

😂🤣😂