[jhall1957]

Anyone know if Euro Delivery will be available for US customers? ED discount?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

Anyone know if Euro Delivery will be available for US customers? ED discount?

ED has been possible for the M2, but you will likely need to find a dealer that is willing to sell the M2 that way and is knowledgeable with the process.

not all dealers are willing to make this process easy for the customer.

ED discount is 5%

[m20e3087]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

ED has been possible for the M2, but you will likely need to find a dealer that is willing to sell the M2 that way and is knowledgeable with the process.

not all dealers are willing to make this process easy for the customer.

ED discount is 5%

Just wondering if we can use Costco or fleet discount on top of ED discount.

[jhall1957]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

ED has been possible for the M2, but you will likely need to find a dealer that is willing to sell the M2 that way and is knowledgeable with the process.

not all dealers are willing to make this process easy for the customer.

ED discount is 5%

I've done 3 with the same dealer so I should be good to go!

[superawesomemegakittens]

I was told that PCD is possible but that ED is not possible by both the dealers I have placed a deposit with. Other members on this forum however have said that they have been able to put down deposits @ MSRP with ED so it may just be a dealer willingness situation.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

ED has been possible for the M2, but you will likely need to find a dealer that is willing to sell the M2 that way and is knowledgeable with the process.

not all dealers are willing to make this process easy for the customer.

ED discount is 5%

Yea, I tried to push my dealer for this and but the vibes I was getting made it seem like this is something they would rather not have to deal with, for whatever reason.. They made it seem like it's a burden on their part.. And also, it affects how you negotiate the overall price..

However, if stuff like that doesn't really apply to you, then I would be persistent and definitely go for it.. It's quite a unique experience to drive a new Beamer in a European country.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Yea, I tried to push my dealer for this and but the vibes I was getting made it seem like this is something they would rather not have to deal with, for whatever reason.. They made it seem like a burden on their part.. And also, it affects how you negotiate the overall price..

However, if stuff like that doesn't really apply to you, then I would be persistence and definitely go for it.. It's quite an unique experience to drive a new Beamer in a European country.

that's exactly what they SHOULDN'T DO.. but that's what happens.

BMW created the program to encourage customer loyalty... unfortunately many dealers are simply worried about their own bottom line... most so much so that they don't even know if ED actually negatively affects their numbers or not.... plus it's a different procedure so they don't want to learn.

As far as the price.. the discount is 5%... now.. if you are trying to get MORE than the ED 5% off then good luck...but ED MSRP is a nice savings.. and it shouldn't be a problem at all for a dealer to sell any BMW produce at the full ED MSRP.

sounds like you should find out who @jhall1957 uses for his dealer

[KevinM]

There is zero reason why it can't be done. However, my experience has been that if the car in question is a new model that is expected to have significant demand (a new M model, for example), most dealers are unwilling to at first because ED cars come out of each dealer's allocation. Within a year, most dealers are willing to play.

[JacobBMW14]

Local dealership in Atlanta is predicting $10-20k markup on the M2C. 20+ people already on their list

[seis-speed]

BMW Please make Euro Delivery with dealers incentivized. They do seem discouraged by such a transaction that is truly a great experience with a brand. I have done multiple ED’s and it used to be “more special” now it feels like asking for a favor. It really shouldn’t feel that way. My first thought is do not take allocations away from a dealer who has an ED customer, let the dealer draw from a pool of allocations that are for ED (exclusively).

While I am at it. Loyalty European Delivery purchasers should get a 6% discount.
Also, a promotional program of X purchase and M purchase should be incentivized with a 7% discount on M purchase Euro Delivery. Especially since X vehicles can not be ordered through European Delivery (for the most part). Shame to see an M owner with a Volvo Crossover, I would always get my wife an X vehicle if there was some incentive towards an M.

Danke Vielmals!

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by KevinM

There is zero reason why it can't be done. However, my experience has been that if the car in question is a new model that is expected to have significant demand (a new M model, for example), most dealers are unwilling to at first because ED cars come out of each dealer's allocation. Within a year, most dealers are willing to play.

the " taking an allocation from the dealer" story seems bogus to me.. I have never understood how this could or would negatively affect a dealer.

The dealer gets X number of allocations.. Having one of those vehicles be a vehicle for ED ... how does that make a difference? Every vehicle sale needs an allocation..

Anytime a dealer starts spouting mumbo jumbo and jargon that affects THEIR bottom line and not mine.. I know where to head.. for the door.

I called over 200 dealers seeking a 1M via euro Delivery at MSRP in a market that was on fire just like now for the M2 competition, and I was able to procure two (of 740) allocations after a setting aside a day to make all those phone calls..

Originally Posted by seis-speed

BMW Please make Euro Delivery with dealers incentivized. They do seem discouraged by such a transaction that is truly a great experience with a brand. I have done multiple ED’s and it used to be “more special” now it feels like asking for a favor. It really shouldn’t feel that way. My first thought is do not take allocations away from a dealer who has an ED customer, let the dealer draw from a pool of allocations that are for ED (exclusively).

While I am at it. Loyalty European Delivery purchasers should get a 6% discount.
Also, a promotional program of X purchase and M purchase should be incentivized with a 7% discount on M purchase Euro Delivery. Especially since X vehicles can not be ordered through European Delivery (for the most part). Shame to see an M owner with a Volvo Crossover, I would always get my wife an X vehicle if there was some incentive towards an M.

Danke Vielmals!

this would be nice.. but while BMW is at it.. if they could stop dealers from selling at market price that would be nice too.

The bottom line is that BMW AG or BMW NA can create all the programs they want.. they already have an ED program for example!
however, a local dealer REFUSING to participate will still stop the customer dead in their tracks.

[yaymitch]

Originally Posted by JacobBMW14

Local dealership in Atlanta is predicting $10-20k markup on the M2C. 20+ people already on their list

Would never buy from that dealer.

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by JacobBMW14

Local dealership in Atlanta is predicting $10-20k markup on the M2C. 20+ morons already on their list

FTFY

[CosmosMpower]

Originally Posted by KevinM

There is zero reason why it can't be done. However, my experience has been that if the car in question is a new model that is expected to have significant demand (a new M model, for example), most dealers are unwilling to at first because ED cars come out of each dealer's allocation. Within a year, most dealers are willing to play.

This, many dealers will probably want to ask over sticker, no way they will discount the new 'hot' car.

[Cavpilot2k]

If people refuse to pay over MSRP and take their business to a dealer who isn't marking up, dealers will stop that nonsense.

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by Cavpilot2k

If people refuse to pay over MSRP and take their business to a dealer who isn't marking up, dealers will stop that nonsense.

Idea: I'm going to start a thread where we post, blacklist and completely boycott dealerships who mark up. I mean total boycott, even from non M2C purchases.

F them. They don't want our business, they won't get it!

I'd be surprised if the mods don't intervene on that one...but i'm with you brother!

Side note, i noticed your from Boston...tea party comes to mind...

[Cavpilot2k]

Originally Posted by infinitekidM2

I'd be surprised if the mods don't intervene on that one...but i'm with you brother!

Side note, i noticed your from Boston...tea party comes to mind...

You're probably right, but hey - what's the point of having a public forum for members if we can't share important information for the benefit of members?

I think listing dealerships who are trying to screw us consumers is important information.

Anyway, if I get banned, it was nice knowing y'all.
Power to the people!

[jhall1957]

Good dealerships are out there! My 3rd ED was for a 1M that I got at Euro Del price with no mark-ups and no hassle. And I am number 1 on the list for M2C at MSRP and no deposit.

I'll share the name later for public or give it to you in private if you message me.

[Cavpilot2k]

Originally Posted by jhall1957

Good dealerships are out there! My 3rd ED was for a 1M that I got at Euro Del price with no mark-ups and no hassle. And I am number 1 on the list for M2C at MSRP and no deposit.

I'll share the name later for public or give it to you in private if you message me.

Agreed. I'm number two on my dealer's list. ED, No deposit.

Deposits are stupid for this car. It's not like the dealer won't have ten people lining up to take your place if you bail.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by KevinM

There is zero reason why it can't be done. However, my experience has been that if the car in question is a new model that is expected to have significant demand (a new M model, for example), most dealers are unwilling to at first because ED cars come out of each dealer's allocation. Within a year, most dealers are willing to play.

BMW should make it a franchise rule that if the customer wants ED, the dealer must accommodate the customer.

[KevinM]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

the " taking an allocation from the dealer" story seems bogus to me.. I have never understood how this could or would negatively affect a dealer.

The dealer gets X number of allocations.. Having one of those vehicles be a vehicle for ED ... how does that make a difference? Every vehicle sale needs an allocation..

Anytime a dealer starts spouting mumbo jumbo and jargon that affects THEIR bottom line and not mine.. I know where to head.. for the door.

I called over 200 dealers seeking a 1M via euro Delivery at MSRP in a market that was on fire just like now for the M2 competition, and I was able to procure two (of 740) allocations after a setting aside a day to make all those phone calls..




this would be nice.. but while BMW is at it.. if they could stop dealers from selling at market price that would be nice too.

The bottom line is that BMW AG or BMW NA can create all the programs they want.. they already have an ED program for example!
however, a local dealer REFUSING to participate will still stop the customer dead in their tracks.

I don't disagree with you. However, as noted above, for a car that is expected to be in demand, refusing ED is exactly what happens at many dealerships, at least for the first year. As was mentioned, in this situation the dealer wants to charge a surplus, have a few cars in the showroom to lure customers, and at the very least be able to have some margin to negotiate (much more difficult with ED). As I don't have a fantastic relationship with any dealer, I just wait a year.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

that's exactly what they SHOULDN'T DO.. but that's what happens.

BMW created the program to encourage customer loyalty... unfortunately many dealers are simply worried about their own bottom line... most so much so that they don't even know if ED actually negatively affects their numbers or not.... plus it's a different procedure so they don't want to learn.

As far as the price.. the discount is 5%... now.. if you are trying to get MORE than the ED 5% off then good luck...but ED MSRP is a nice savings.. and it shouldn't be a problem at all for a dealer to sell any BMW produce at the full ED MSRP.

sounds like you should find out who @jhall1957 uses for his dealer

European delivery is up to the dealer. Their allocations are theirs to do with as they please. The only reason that they have not to do an ED is inexperience with the process or greed.
The August 2015 ED that I had with my M235i was a killer deal. The car had just become more available since at release it was just like getting an M2 with many dealers marking it up. I got the 7.5% ED discount (lowered to 5% now) plus an extra discount which came out to $500. over ED MSRP invoice or 13% under retail MSRP. That is the kind of discount the dealer can make if they want to.