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      06-08-2018, 11:07 PM   #23
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That isss because manual owners regretting it will get laughed at...

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On every forum, threads regarding MT vs DCT, I've never read a post were an MT owner truly regrets their decision. I've seen plenty of posts by both MT and DCT owners who love and swear by their choice. But I've only seen regrets posted by DCT owners.
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      06-08-2018, 11:19 PM   #24
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That isss because manual owners regretting it will get laughed at...

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On every forum, threads regarding MT vs DCT, I've never read a post were an MT owner truly regrets their decision. I've seen plenty of posts by both MT and DCT owners who love and swear by their choice. But I've only seen regrets posted by DCT owners.
No shame in that game and yet it doesn't happen. :

I think around 40-60% of DCT regret is probably due to dudes "buying a car their wife can drive. "


15 -20 years ago when men were MEN, they happily bought the 5MT because it meant she wouldn't want to drive the sportscar. Of course back then if your wife was was a real WOMAN, she already knew how to drive a manual.
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      06-09-2018, 12:03 AM   #25
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No shame in that game and yet it doesn't happen. :

I think around 40-60% of DCT regret is probably due to dudes "buying a car their wife can drive. "


15 -20 years ago when men were MEN, they happily bought the 5MT because it meant she wouldn't want to drive the sportscar. Of course back then if your wife was was a real WOMAN, she already knew how to drive a manual.
I taught my wife and my kids how to drive a stick. She currently has an Audi A4 stick.
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      06-09-2018, 12:06 AM   #26
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Almost all of my cars to date were manual. I drove an M2 DCT in Thermal and upon return I decided to trade in my M240i MT, but wasn't sure if I wanted the MT or DCT. The dealer had a 2018 DCT arriving in three days and offered a good discount and fair value for my trade-in. I did not want to order and wait months for an MT, so I went for it. I like it a lot, but probably as long as I own it, will be pondering if I made the right choice...
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No shame in that game and yet it doesn't happen. :

I think around 40-60% of DCT regret is probably due to dudes "buying a car their wife can drive. "


15 -20 years ago when men were MEN, they happily bought the 5MT because it meant she wouldn't want to drive the sportscar. Of course back then if your wife was was a real WOMAN, she already knew how to drive a manual.
I taught my wife and my kids how to drive a stick. She currently has an Audi A4 stick.
My Ex wife and any long term GF I've been with drive MT. Current GF drives my 1M on track.

I wish I were as successful with the offspring. One child. AT driver. 325 vert.

Note.. Also Hasn't driven a 1M.. so....
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That isss because manual owners regretting it will get laughed at...

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On every forum, threads regarding MT vs DCT, I've never read a post were an MT owner truly regrets their decision. I've seen plenty of posts by both MT and DCT owners who love and swear by their choice. But I've only seen regrets posted by DCT owners.
No shame in that game and yet it doesn't happen. :

I think around 40-60% of DCT regret is probably due to dudes "buying a car their wife can drive. "


15 -20 years ago when men were MEN, they happily bought the 5MT because it meant she wouldn't want to drive the sportscar. Of course back then if your wife was was a real WOMAN, she already knew how to drive a manual.
I have no shame in saying it's the same for me. She's worth it! AND I love it.

Jump in and I will take you for the ride of your life. (And bring you back in one piece of course!)
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I, for one, cannot wait for the day we are all driving EVs without the need for many gears and threads like this will not recur every month. Then real men can ride bicycles
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      06-09-2018, 01:39 AM   #30
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Thanks all for the views

I owned once a E92 330 MT then same model automatic, really my decision to change gear box was based on driving MT turning into nightmare in traffic jam. But despite automatic was much more of a comfort, I lost the feeling getting straight power when pulling gaz ... now for the M2 DCT is of course quite direct in sport mode, and I feel more confident on track ... so for those who tested MT and DCT would you say its more straight power?
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      06-09-2018, 01:41 AM   #31
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Buyers don't miss out on an M2 with collectible DCT transmission while you can !
I never said they would be collectible.
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      06-09-2018, 03:39 AM   #32
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On every forum, threads regarding MT vs DCT, I've never read a post were an MT owner truly regrets their decision. I've seen plenty of posts by both MT and DCT owners who love and swear by their choice. But I've only seen regrets posted by DCT owners.
Peculiar sad and sobering story: a friend of mine didn't take delivery of a 6MT and ordered an M3 M-DCT as he had been diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. He also has an M2 M-DCT. He has driven many racebikes on circuits (hardcore biker freak) as long as he physically could. The day he 'felt numbness onsetting again' in the middle of a lap at Spa-Francorchamps he immediately pitted and asked pit folks to litterary lift him from his Ducati. "That day my racing ended", he said. He keeps buying fast cars to maximize driving joy opportunities as time is running out.
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When I connect to ista for diagnose or coding in my DCT the transmission is signed by mechanic.
M2 in 2020 or similar will be the last M car with dct mech transmission.

All this to say what: dct is a mechanic trans, the real regret will be after 2020 when all the M car will have 8/9 zf auto trasm.....

So enjoy our m2 all with mech transmission, someone with leverage and someone with paddle!
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      06-09-2018, 05:57 AM   #34
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I like to share with you guys a growing bad feeling about my choice made on gear box, I have a 18 M2 LCI with DCT which I use to ride mainly in sport mode in mountain roads, car has +5k km just made for fun and I love this car !!!
But (unfortunately) I am just wondering if I would have more control on power with MT, and here it comes; did I chose the right geat box despite DCT in sport mode is very quick ??? Some similar experiences?
M-DCT, dsc off, manual mode all day
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Sometimes I get the feeling I did wrong getting the DCT but in reality I country be happier .. mine is a daily driver and Atlanta traffic sucks
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Buyers don't miss out on an M2 with collectible DCT transmission while you can !
I never said they would be collectible.
Correct. I did.
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I only buy MT for sports cars. No MT is a deal killer for me. It’s the entirely of the fun. I only buy MT cars cause I can’t ride motorbikes now cause I have responsibilities apparently. Wife and kids.
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      06-09-2018, 08:34 AM   #39
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Bought manual, regret it and wants a DCT.
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No regrets at all getting a manual. In fact if the M2 wasn't offered with a manual I wouldn't have got one. I hate auto transmissions in performance cars with a passion, not sure whether I have just had bad luck with them but they frustrate me and take from the enjoyment of driving.
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DCT...

faster....
includes launch control....
much easier on the 405 or heavy traffic...
still allows manual shifting of gears, just no 3rd pedal...

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That isss because manual owners regretting it will get laughed at...

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On every forum, threads regarding MT vs DCT, I've never read a post were an MT owner truly regrets their decision. I've seen plenty of posts by both MT and DCT owners who love and swear by their choice. But I've only seen regrets posted by DCT owners.
No shame in that game and yet it doesn't happen. :

I think around 40-60% of DCT regret is probably due to dudes "buying a car their wife can drive. "


15 -20 years ago when men were MEN, they happily bought the 5MT because it meant she wouldn't want to drive the sportscar. Of course back then if your wife was was a real WOMAN, she already knew how to drive a manual.
Not far from true
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      06-09-2018, 12:49 PM   #43
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On track I have no qualms with the manual, the pedals are placed reasonably well for heel-toe and when you are driving with enough aggression, the manual is easy to work with.

However, on the street, I find the manual to be pretty underwhelming. The way the shifter engages is a bit too notchy and borderline uncooperative if you don't use enough force. It's not as slick as your typical JDM gearbox (STI, Miata, S2000, ITR) and even my Camaro SS 1LE has a better shifter (albeit worse pedal placement). Getting the M2 to go into reverse is not an elegant affair either.

Curious how a heavier knob would feel on the M2 but it's not as simple as spinning the stock one off and spinning a new one on.
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6mt owner with zero regrets! Not sure how one can regret the manual in this car as it’s SO easy to drive. Buttery smooth shifting and light clutch feel.

To above: my GR STi was the notchiest piece of crap ever. The shifting was horrible. I had to buy a really heavy weighted knob just to get the damn thing into gear.
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