[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

I am well aware of it and understand it...I just think they should be able to compensate to get it there...I've seen far fewer Porsches with this problem than I do BMWs.

Sounds like you have Porsche dreams and BMW desires.

How much more is the competing Porsche model aka " Becky with the good hair " ?

M2 comp -58,900

Cayman - 56,300

Cayman S - 69,300

Cayman GTS -82k

For the $10.4 grand difference to a Cayman GT you could add a new CF roof and repaint the M2 comp any color you like.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Sounds like you have Porsche dreams and BMW desires.

How much more is the competing Porsche model aka " Becky with the good hair " ?

M2 comp -58,900

Cayman - 56,300

Cayman S - 69,300

Cayman GTS -82k

For the $10.4 grand difference to a Cayman GT you could add a new CF roof and repaint the M2 comp any color you like.

Actually I like the 718 a lot but I'm leaning LCI M2 in the fall when they have to get rid of them...or M2C ED next summer.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by scflaw

Thanks, OP. Was looking for your review on the engine. I ordered the M2 because i missed my old FBO 335 N54 power curve, that car could spin the tires at speed. Great pictures, the wife and i just came back from germany and switzerland two weeks ago and the swiss have some of the best roads but the speed enforcement there was crazy!

Looks like you get what you want. Gustav from GTboard, was at the M2C launch event in Ascari. He said the car was a "little beast" and he lost traction in 3rd gear multiple times.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

Looks like you get what you want. Gustav from GTboard, was at the M2C launch event in Ascari. He said he the car was a "little beast" and he lost traction in 3rd gear multiple times.

Translation.. exceeded 4500 Rpm...

[BAN_M2C]

Those cars at Ascari had break-in already and they were surely being put thru their paces hard. So I am not concerned about Lotus99 first impressions since I am sure once he goes full throttle and hits the car hard after brake-in period he will feel the power.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

Actually I like the 718 a lot but I'm leaning LCI M2 in the fall when they have to get rid of them...or M2C ED next summer.

Strongly recommend you do ED on any BMW.. bonding with your new car in its natural environment is an amazing thing !

. The ED experience is worth way more than any amount of savings on a car on the lot.

With those as the two options if you can truly lock down an ED allocation for an M2 comp then I would do it this year .. screw waiting for next year. I picked my car up at the Welt in early
September over what was Labor Day weekend here at home. The weather in Germany was fantastic and the flight prices are also far cheaper than summer time. But if you've got a dealer that you are confident in then next summer would work too.

[TucErDoc]

Not sure if I missed it in these 12pages, but the OPs car is manual? Correct?

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by TucErDoc

Not sure if I missed it in these 12pages, but the OPs car is manual? Correct?

Yes, manual.

[m2rs4_official]

Wooohoo! Looks amazing and the color is insanely gorgeous mate I do hope that you enjoy your new toy and do let us know how it goes. wish I didn't take delivery of my M2 in May but it's ok, I'm happy with it.

[HammerDahn]

The car won't feel like its pulling hard up top compared to an m3/m4 due to the factory tune which limits the power after 5000rpms to keep it at the 405hp mark.

[adc]

OP, the S55 engine has been, in my experience, rock solid. Not a single drop of oil needed in between changes, which is literally unheard of in BMW-land, and especially in M-land.

So I encourage you to take a few pages out of adc’s school of breaking in the S55 . As your mileage goes up, occasionally do rev the engine up past 4500 rpm, going a bit higher each time. Use 2nd and 3rd gears for this purpose. Roll into the throttle instead of jamming on it when you do this.

Also avoid lugging the engine (very low rpm in high gear). Definitely vary the rpm and if you have to drive on the highway just change a gear or two up or down just to spin the engine at a different rpm.

By 600 miles or so my car had visited the redline for very brief moments. By 800-900 getting to be good acquaintances. By 1000 miles they were getting on to a durable friendship. And so on.


I’m quite convinced that with these modern engines, all the internal mechanical break-in is done in a few hundred miles.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Strongly recommend you do ED on any BMW.. bonding with your new car in its natural environment is an amazing thing !

. The ED experience is worth way more than any amount of savings on a car on the lot.

With those as the two options if you can truly lock down an ED allocation for an M2 comp then I would do it this year .. screw waiting for next year. I picked my car up at the Welt in early
September over what was Labor Day weekend here at home. The weather in Germany was fantastic and the flight prices are also far cheaper than summer time. But if you've got a dealer that you are confident in then next summer would work too.

Yea, I did it on my 230i...9 countries, 4 days, 1250 miles, ring, 157 mph. It's definitely a blast. I just have no time for it this fall. I'm leaning toward LCI now to tide me over and possibly end of production M2C ED in spring of 2020. As far as Germany goes, I'll be there next week for lapping at the ring in M4s...put on by Donnie Isley and Laura Hayes/BMW M school.

[BOhio]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

I agree...the mismatch would never stop me from buying or loving the colors...just a wish it would be better. Great ED recs for OP...I agree Neuschwanstein is a trap...glad I had already been there before my ED trip. That said, it seems to be an ED rite of passage!

And, BOhio, get the wife a moderately, but selectively, optioned 718 for that Porsche experience.

If we do the Porsche, I think it could be this one: https://www.caranddriver.com/flipboo...r-2019-2022#18

And rest assured it would be moderately optioned, even though leather-lined AC vent louvers and the under-seat spätzle warmers would be tempting kit for the rare times we'd allow a guest in the car.

While we're at the Welt (in 54 days, but who's counting?) to get our car, I'm going to stop by the gift shop and see if they have a BMW travel crate for our wiener dogs (daschshunds for the purists), who are sorely disappointed to not be going with us.

OP, is the wax moustache grill (first thing I thought when I saw it) of the M2C actually one piece vs. two separated by a strip of hood metal? I'm not loving that look. If you can confirm either way, I'll send you and your son a box of these: https://www.candyfavorites.com/wax-mustaches

[Flying Ace]

I'm here to watch this forum melt down over his moonroof choice.

[TucErDoc]

Do we know if they have updated to the new key yet? The thinner, heavier one?

[Arcanum-UK]

Originally Posted by adc

OP, the S55 engine has been, in my experience, rock solid. Not a single drop of oil needed in between changes, which is literally unheard of in BMW-land, and especially in M-land.

So I encourage you to take a few pages out of adc’s school of breaking in the S55 . As your mileage goes up, occasionally do rev the engine up past 4500 rpm, going a bit higher each time. Use 2nd and 3rd gears for this purpose. Roll into the throttle instead of jamming on it when you do this.

Also avoid lugging the engine (very low rpm in high gear). Definitely vary the rpm and if you have to drive on the highway just change a gear or two up or down just to spin the engine at a different rpm.

By 600 miles or so my car had visited the redline for very brief moments. By 800-900 getting to be good acquaintances. By 1000 miles they were getting on to a durable friendship. And so on.

I’m quite convinced that with these modern engines, all the internal mechanical break-in is done in a few hundred miles.

Yep, that's how I broke in every car I've owned from new - M2, M235i, M135i, STI and two Civic Type-R's. A couple of these cars went past 60K miles with no engine issues and one of the Civic Type-R's has gone past 150K miles (by my Dad) with no issues.

Sure it's not by the book. And there will be plenty of people who say that BMW wrote it in the manual based on good reason. Yet manufacturing tolerances and oils are hugely better than they were 20-years ago, yet the run-in recommendation is the same... really?!?!

[Artemis]

Lotus99, for convenience reasons I compiled/copied your later feedback, pictures and videos in the first post of this thread.

That's why I also added "UPDATED" to the thread title.

[3tekcorps]

Originally Posted by Arcanum-UK

Yep, that's how I broke in every car I've owned from new - M2, M235i, M135i, STI and two Civic Type-R's. A couple of these cars went past 60K miles with no engine issues and one of the Civic Type-R's has gone past 150K miles (by my Dad) with no issues.

60k with no engine issue is good?

[Arcanum-UK]

Originally Posted by 3tekcorps

60k with no engine issue is good?

Fair enough, my point wasn't clear. Those cars I sold, so I can't say if they suddenly had an immediate and catastrophic engine failure for the next owner. Yet I got to 60K miles on all those cars with no abnormality in oil consumption or issues so am sceptical that my break in is going to be an issue.

Like ADC, it's not like I'm ignoring the break in period entirely. Just increasing the load on the engine more quickly than recommended in the manual. Partly because I only do 4,000-miles year - and I've only got one car - so don't want to wait 3-months!

Of course, my sample of half a dozen cars is hardly scientific. Equally, the same break in recommendations now as 20-years ago (perhaps more), despite manufacturing and lubricant improvements, doesn't make sense.

From another perspective, I'd bet a couple of track days create more wear and tear on the engine and premature failures than this break in approach.

[BAN_M2C]

Break in topics are always fun to read, everyone has different opinions. I have broken in built engines on a Dyno. Also followed the procedure BMW recommended for the M2.

Isn't the break in period of our cars mostly for the clutch and the differential, hence the fluid change of the differential at the 1200 mile mark?

[warrenw]

Originally Posted by BAN_M2

Isn't the break in period of our cars mostly for the clutch and the differential, hence the fluid change of the differential at the 1200 mile mark?

I would assume so.

Plenty of people, especially with Japanese cars, don't do any break in at all, they just... drive the car. Lexus even for example you don't even have to change the transmission or diff fluid......

Modern cars in general you don't have to change any fluids for the first 10,000 miles. Wonder why BMW is so different.

[mercedesc63]

Originally Posted by Lotus99

I knew I'm going to take some sh!t for that comment... The lack of zippiness of the car is the only thing that has surprised me, to be honest. Those who know and review cars for a living will probably describe this as a normally aspirated engine curve, or one that is quite linear and predictable. Which is not a bad thing necessarily.

It can't be that BMW couldn't make it drive like the R. I'm sure they could have just mapped the throttle curve steeper. It's got way more power, so that's not the problem. Perhaps with the R, being AWD, they can get away with it.

The fact the car is sound proofed well is nothing to whine about. As you can hear from my vid, the exhaust does make plenty of noise. If you expect it to be that loud with your windows up, you'll need to get yourself an aftermarket one. I used to drive with my windows cracked open to hear my exhaust.

I have a 15’ VW Golf TDI and well i think the real words to describe it is TURBO LAG! I remember my F80 M3 has little turbo lag compared to my Golf TDI or even my old N54 335s.

Believe me linear throttle is a good thing and the S55 has only a little turbo lag. Better and easier to modulate the pedal in performance applications

Dont get me wrong I think your problem with the zipiness of the car has to do with the size how its a much wider longer more refined luxury car than the VW. Which as a result makes you feel like the car is not as zippy and insulates you. But it is a far more savage car than the VW in every way you will learn to love it.

On a side note of you want the turbo lag to come back throw a JB4 in there and then you will see it return.