[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by f80_MG

Left is a stock image and right is with the MPE
Attachment 2513488

Also forgot I had this from transport. All pretty much at idle, so not super interesting.

Sounds incredible at idle with the MPE in my opinion, compared to the Akrapovic.

[ScullyD]

One other question here, can someone comment on the Chris Harris theory in Top Gear that all the horsepower gains over the M2C are related to the exhaust? My fear is that we're somehow negating horsepower gains by doing this muffler swap. In theory this makes no sense though.

[Wah]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

One other question here, can someone comment on the Chris Harris theory in Top Gear that all the horsepower gains over the M2C are related to the exhaust? My fear is that we're somehow negating horsepower gains by doing this muffler swap. In theory this makes no sense though.

You're not getting 39 additional HP by putting an M2cs muffler on a M2c. Its all tuning.

[f80_MG]

As requested, some more pictures from different distances and different heights to show how the MPE looks.
Excuse the dirty cars, snow and temps have been insane!

Def not as well hidden as the F80 muffler, but still improves the udder look quite a bit.

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by Wah

You have to cut it.

When I went to part out my MPE on the F80 it had the slip on titanium box unclamped it and swapped back an original F80 exhaust (very easy to get as so many owners swapped out the standard exhausts).
The one thing that surprised me when I did that at the end of 6 years ownership was how much better the original exhaust box and tips sounded when back on the car. It was my first experience of the exhaust 'curing' over time. I'm not sure if that's a real thing or all in the perception? I do remember however the looks the F80 owners all gave each other when a F80 first started up at the BMW performance driving centre (we weren't high fiving each other). So something had changed over time.

[Wah]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

When I went to part out my MPE on the F80 it had the slip on titanium box unclamped it and swapped back an original F80 exhaust (very easy to get as so many owners swapped out the standard exhausts).
The one thing that surprised me when I did that at the end of 6 years ownership was how much better the original exhaust box and tips sounded when back on the car. It was my first experience of the exhaust 'curing' over time. I'm not sure if that's a real thing or all in the perception? I do remember however the looks the F80 owners all gave each other when a F80 first started up at the BMW performance driving centre (we weren't high fiving each other). So something had changed over time.

The exhaust you used probably had a few miles on it. They tend to get louder and deeper over time with the carbon building up and the glass pack inside the muffler degrading over time. I can't stand the sound of the stock exhaust on the s55. It will be one of the first things I change.

[DocEyes]

So in the end, is there any difference between the MPE that we now know will fit the CS and the MPE for the Comp? Frustrating that some of the dealerships are saying it’s not available (including here in Canada). So are we left with just getting them to order one as if it’s for the Competition? However supposedly the MPE for the CS now includes the CF tips.

[ScullyD]

So wait the M2 CS version should include the carbon tips as well, whereas the M2C and oG M2 versions didn't? Is there any difference between M2C and M2 CS versions?

[pawelczyk7]

I have 2020 m2c with the MPE with AA single mid pipe and sounds great.. MPE Alone was very noticeable and think sounds much better than AKRA. In addition I also really like the mperformance on the muffler.. lastly I think anytime you can add BMW Derived performance parts is worth it in the long run for warranty / resale etc.

[Wah]

I'll put my money on there being no "CS version". Its the M2C MPE in which case you can order the muffler, the tips separately (cf, black chrome or titanium), OR you can order the MPE muffler with CF tip option

[pawelczyk7]

https://youtu.be/3CEr0pS9Lhw

just a quick video with my MPE exhaust, shifting at around 35/4000 RPM.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by pawelczyk7

https://youtu.be/3CEr0pS9Lhw

just a quick video with my MPE exhaust, shifting at around 35/4000 RPM.

Not sure how others feel, but that sounds better than other options + you get the BMW warranty, seems like a no brainer.

[f80_MG]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

When I went to part out my MPE on the F80 it had the slip on titanium box unclamped it and swapped back an original F80 exhaust (very easy to get as so many owners swapped out the standard exhausts).
The one thing that surprised me when I did that at the end of 6 years ownership was how much better the original exhaust box and tips sounded when back on the car. It was my first experience of the exhaust 'curing' over time. I'm not sure if that's a real thing or all in the perception? I do remember however the looks the F80 owners all gave each other when a F80 first started up at the BMW performance driving centre (we weren't high fiving each other). So something had changed over time.

Definitely a real thing. My F80 MPE was just replaced to V2 under warranty. It's been a few weeks and it's still hard for me to recognize the car because the new MPE is so much tamer right now.

Originally Posted by DocEyes

So in the end, is there any difference between the MPE that we now know will fit the CS and the MPE for the Comp? Frustrating that some of the dealerships are saying it’s not available (including here in Canada). So are we left with just getting them to order one as if it’s for the Competition? However supposedly the MPE for the CS now includes the CF tips.

Originally Posted by ScullyD

So wait the M2 CS version should include the carbon tips as well, whereas the M2C and oG M2 versions didn't? Is there any difference between M2C and M2 CS versions?

Build option OZA4 now includes both the MPE and CF tips. Whether the part numbers have changed or not

Originally Posted by Wah

I'll put my money on there being no "CS version". Its the M2C MPE in which case you can order the muffler, the tips separately (cf, black chrome or titanium), OR you can order the MPE muffler with CF tip option

No titanium tips were offered for the M2C MPE or black chrome (diff diameter). CF tips were/are also different than the F80 ones.
That said the Ti tips from the M3 will fit as per some forum members.

Originally Posted by pawelczyk7

just a quick video with my MPE exhaust, shifting at around 35/4000 RPM.

Sounds great! That's with the AA mid?

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by pawelczyk7

https://youtu.be/3CEr0pS9Lhw

just a quick video with my MPE exhaust, shifting at around 35/4000 RPM.

Beautiful

[pawelczyk7]

This was pre mid pipe .. I will look to get another vid soon want look to get on a stretch of road where I can rev it out a bit

[pawelczyk7]

This was from the summer and got a little mod crazy since. M763 wheels, AA mid pipe, M perf coil overs Dinan perf flash tune (one with the matching warranty) adds approx 60 hp and 50 + ft lb trq.. so power / trq more m4 cs level. So takes a great car up a few notches ..

[pawelczyk7]

Closing in in M2 CS levels. Lol.

[MomoM3]

Damn you guys are killing me.

My car is 4 days away from arriving to the port and I thought I was done.

Biggest reason I want the MPE is to get rid of the diaper look of the stock exhaust plus the polished muffler wraps it up nicely.

I had stainless steel MPE on a 340i and it had annoyingly more pops and burbles than my stock ZCP F80 which I thought sounded fine.

Will the polished titanium stay polished over time?

Does the MPE add a crap ton more pops and burbles?

Dang.... $6310... would only consider it for port install while I can.

[f80_MG]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

Damn you guys are killing me.

My car is 4 days away from arriving to the port and I thought I was done.

Biggest reason I want the MPE is to get rid of the diaper look of the stock exhaust plus the polished muffler wraps it up nicely.

I had stainless steel MPE on a 340i and it had annoyingly more pops and burbles than my stock ZCP F80 which I thought sounded fine.

Will the polished titanium stay polished over time?

Does the MPE add a crap ton more pops and burbles?

Dang.... $6310... would only consider it for port install while I can.

If you're thinking hard about it, and can swing the cost, I'd say do it. Your dealers cost is 5700, offer them 6k (they make some money, you save some money).
Worst case - you don't like it at all, buy a stock exhaust for 1k, and sell the MPE.
You would probably end up losing about 2k in that scenario.

Slightly cheaper alternative - if you can DIY or have a trusted dealer/installer, could easily wait to get the car and then decide if you want to change it up.

[kyrocks]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

Damn you guys are killing me.

My car is 4 days away from arriving to the port and I thought I was done.

Biggest reason I want the MPE is to get rid of the diaper look of the stock exhaust plus the polished muffler wraps it up nicely.

I had stainless steel MPE on a 340i and it had annoyingly more pops and burbles than my stock ZCP F80 which I thought sounded fine.

Will the polished titanium stay polished over time?

Does the MPE add a crap ton more pops and burbles?

Dang.... $6310... would only consider it for port install while I can.

MPE is tons of pops and burbles. At least it is on my M2C.

[pawelczyk7]

i dont think it adds much more as far as pops and crackles .. just much improved sound, In addition you can manage by going the different modes as efficient / sport is noticeably different than sports plus

[kyrocks]

Originally Posted by pawelczyk7

i dont think it adds much more as far as pops and crackles .. just much improved sound, In addition you can manage by going the different modes as efficient / sport is noticeably different than sports plus

There are TONS of pops and burbles. Every time you take your foot off the throttle.