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      11-24-2020, 09:00 AM   #2201
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Most systems work off front facing cameras

https://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Sho...echnology/fcw/

the few reverse auto braking systems really only work at parking lot speeds.
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So you are saying collision system will work for front end collisions only ? Not from side or rear end of the car?
I'm saying it could only react once an object comes into view and it interprets the motion. If directly ahead, it has more time and an easier task. I have seen it react to a vehicle straight ahead but just off the road outside of a curve. If I didn't stay in lane I would have hit it, therefore the system "worked" as designed.

The G30 system with advanced package has a radar and extra sensors that does give you front and rear cross path warnings. Plus mine had night vision that would allow reactions to objects at night, especially if near the road!
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Just purchased my first BMW. Previous I've had an Audi S4. Loved it. I'll be taking delivery of the M2C in 2 days
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So you are saying collision system will work for front end collisions only ? Not from side or rear end of the car?
Everyone needs to read the owner's manual to fully understand the very limited capability of the system (like how it does not work above about 35mph not to mention having zero side or rear abilities, how it is disabled if the accelerator or steering wheel is moved, etc, etc, etc).
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      11-24-2020, 12:02 PM   #2205
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Everyone needs to read the owner's manual to fully understand the very limited capability of the system (like how it does not work above about 35mph not to mention having zero side or rear abilities, how it is disabled if the accelerator or steering wheel is moved, etc, etc, etc).
Based on my interpretation, the auto braking occurs up to 35 mph. It doesn't say the highest speed for the warnings. I know I got the acute warning going into turn 14 at CMP. I wasn't under 35 mph at the time. I think it occurred a 2nd time that weekend but may have to replay my entire sessions to find it
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Scary incident i was about to get t-boned when i was crossing a green light and some fucker from oppposite side was about to ram into me and luckily realized and swerved away, i swerved too and applied brake but the collision system did not brake and i dont recall whether it showed the red signal in the dash as it happened in split of seconds, does the system work only for frontal collision?
To directly answer your question, yes, it only works for frontal collision and it's not really that effective at even that; it's a hit or miss, so to speak but should improve vastly, in the future.

FYI, auto-braking, like on this system, is considered Level 0 autonomous driving.

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To directly answer your question, yes, it only works for frontal collision and it's not really that effective at even that; it's a hit or miss, so to speak but should improve vastly, in the future.

FYI, auto-braking, like on this system, is considered Level 0 autonomous driving.

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FYI, auto-braking, like on this system, is considered Level 0 autonomous driving.
Fuck'n Á Poochie . . . You da man!

Get informed on the G80 M3C . . . please!

I'm not part of 'that' crowd and will need one of my M2 PEEPs to lean on when, you know, I cannot figure out how to turn the damn thing on

Seriously, everyone knows how much I love my M2C and I want to try and tastefully share my G80 M3C experience (journey) with my M2 brothers. . . sort of an interlude between the F87 and G87.

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I can confirm for a fact that auto braking is NOT up to 35 mph.

Happened twice already and I was going well over 60 mph.
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FYI, auto-braking, like on this system, is considered Level 0 autonomous driving.
Fuck'n Á Poochie . . . You da man!

Get informed on the G80 M3C . . . please!

I'm not part of 'that' crowd and will need one of my M2 PEEPs to lean on when, you know, I cannot figure out how to turn the damn thing on

Seriously, everyone knows how much I love my M2C and I want to try and tastefully share my G80 M3C experience (journey) with my M2 brothers. . . sort of an interlude between the F87 and G87.

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I've been searching but BMW has been scant on the G8X technical details, only thing they've highlighted so far is their new "Drift Analyzer"..

Which, I might say, is quite odd. They usually dump every on us, at this juncture.

All I able to hash up was some regurgitate reviews specs and a limited data chart but it's in German.. And of course they use the metric system, so to an American, everything is as familiar as ancient Latin.

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I can confirm for a fact that auto braking is NOT up to 35 mph.

Happened twice already and I was going well over 60 mph.

Sorry to say, it only auto-brakes up to 35mph, after that, it just flashes a red car icon in the instrument cluster and there is also an audible warning.


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I can confirm for a fact that auto braking is NOT up to 35 mph.

Happened twice already and I was going well over 60 mph.

Sorry to say, it only auto-brakes up to 35mph, after that, it just flashes a red car icon in the instrument cluster and there is also an audible warning.


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I swear it applies the brakes even after 35 mph. Already happened twice. Either that or it cuts off throttle because the car clearly slowed down and I wasn't imagining things. The way I read this screenshot is that it refers only to pedestrians at 35 mph and that it applies the brakes before collision regardless of speed.

The car 100% slows down at high speeds when approaching another vehicle at a much faster speed when the warning flashes.

100%

Did I mention 100%?
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I can confirm for a fact that auto braking is NOT up to 35 mph.

Happened twice already and I was going well over 60 mph.

Sorry to say, it only auto-brakes up to 35mph, after that, it just flashes a red car icon in the instrument cluster and there is also an audible warning.


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I swear it applies the brakes even after 35 mph. Already happened twice. Either that or it cuts off throttle because the car clearly slowed down and I wasn't imagining things. The way I read this screenshot is that it talks only about pedestrian collision.
They are all the same, previously, I was just to lazy to search for the correct description but it's now laid out below.

I'm positive the M2 doesn't auto-brake at over 35mph but it does prime the braking system for more sensitive response, maybe that's what you felt and misinterpreted the aggressive braking feedback.

For liability reasons and the sheer limitations of the system prevents BMW from implementing auto-braking, at such high speeds, without it possible becoming a collision hazard within itself.


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@j23

Hey, I remember you have the Executive Package, so here's a codeable feature that you might appreciate; you know how after you shut off your vehicle and leave it for over 15 mins, you have restart the heated steering wheel, since it doesn't retain your selection to memory.

With the coding parameter below, you can now change the duration of how long the memory saves it for, after the vehicle is later restarted.

Enjoy


FEM_BODY ->

3140 PfLinSteeringWheel, 11 ->

[COLOR="DarkRed"]NACHLAUFZEIT LENKRADHEIZUNG[/COLOR]
Default value is '15_Min'. I changed mine to '24_hours (0X02).'
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@j23

Hey, I remember you have the Executive Package, so here's a codeable feature that you might appreciate; you know how after you shut off your vehicle and leave it for over 15 mins, you have restart the heated steering wheel, since it doesn't retain your selection to memory.

With the coding parameter below, you can now change the duration of how long the memory saves it for, after the vehicle is later restarted.

Enjoy


FEM_BODY ->

3140 PfLinSteeringWheel, 11 ->

NACHLAUFZEIT LENKRADHEIZUNG
Default value is '15_Min'. I changed mine to '24hrs'.
Sweet! Thanks.

Will this also remember to leave collision warning turned off? - Or is this primarily for the heated steering wheel?
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but it does prime the braking system for more sensitive response, maybe that's what you felt and misinterpreted the aggressive braking feedback.
Perhaps that's what it is, but I could definitely feel the car slow down slightly when I was fast approaching the car in front when the collision system activated. I will test this out and get to the bottom of it. It's quite fun, actually. All you have to do is nearly run into the back end of another car at high speed.
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@j23

Hey, I remember you have the Executive Package, so here's a codeable feature that you might appreciate; you know how after you shut off your vehicle and leave it for over 15 mins, you have restart the heated steering wheel, since it doesn't retain your selection to memory.

With the coding parameter below, you can now change the duration of how long the memory saves it for, after the vehicle is later restarted.

Enjoy


FEM_BODY ->

3140 PfLinSteeringWheel, 11 ->

[COLOR="DarkRed"]NACHLAUFZEIT LENKRADHEIZUNG[/COLOR]
Default value is '15_Min'. I changed mine to '24hrs'.
Sweet! Thanks.

Will this also remember to leave collision warning turned off? - Or is this primarily for the heated steering wheel?
No, that just for the heated steering wheel's duration on memory, the collision system module is not accessible with Bimmercode to make that sort of changes..

The only way to keep it off permanently is remove the collision warning system, via VO coding, which is essentially deleting the feature, from the factory order and vehicle's programming.

You would have to contact an expert coded to accomplish this, as it requires a fair amount of expertise and can't be done with Bimmercode.
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I do not think I need to convince anyone just how much I enjoy my F87 M2C . . . best/favorite car I have ever owned! I know am not alone in my views.

The M2C was my first BMW and literally drew me out of the Porsche lineup.

Now that I am in the BMW lineup, I have developed a desire to experience the brand’s longstanding icon . . . in the form of the recently released G80 M3C.

I consider M3C purchase part of MY M2C JOURNEY. I am extremely biased toward thinking BMW could not build a vehicle that suits me better than the M2C . . . but will not know without first-hand experience.

I am really NOT after ‘better’ . . . rather, just a ‘new’ experience with the BMW icon.

To be completely honest, I consider the G80 M3C to represent an interlude between the F87 and G87 M2C . . . the latter expected to be hitting U.S. roadways early in 2023.

I would like to appropriately share my M3C journey with my M2 peeps. What is ‘appropriately?’

Well, I think a reasonable objective is to provide periodic information that is useful to fellow M2C peeps who are considering (1) staying with the F87 M2C; (2) moving into the G80/82; and/or (3) moving into the G87 down the road.

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Cant wait to hear about your M3, its gonna be a good one for sure.

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Cant wait to hear about your M3, its gonna be a good one for sure.

Oh, and here is my build (if I were to order one today)
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Am I crazy not to want all the nanny features?
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I have tried to introduce myself to the M3/4 crowd but, frankly, just not the same as the M2 crowd to which I belong and have become accustomed.

This represents the primary reason I wanted to share the G80 experience with my brothers on this subform. Namely, I am coming into the G80 from the perspective of a passionate M2C owner.

I love your G80 build! Brooklyn Grey has some Hockenheim Silver to it - making us BOTH immediately biased - plus a blue hue that makes your seat choice (Yas Marina Blue/Black) pretty kick-ass.

Regarding 'nannies,' nobody really knows how the G80/82 performs, but I am confident BMW engineers made it special. . . seems whatever nannies exist will be readily dis-engaged if desired.

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I'm in for updates. As usual I'm already thinking about my next addition. On the list is an m3 touring. Your information will continue to be appreciated. My current thoughts are m3 touring, 997 GT3, c8 z06, 458. The m3 is the oddball, but I do love a good wagon and the touring photos look great.
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