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We guarantee that our product will not cause a lasting CEL. In less than 1% of installations there is one troubleshooting step required in order for that to stand true. We sell thousands of these, only a handful of people have ever had a CEL appear due to this issue, and it has always been cleared right away never to return. Again, I can see your confusion and will communicate your feedback to our team. Quote:
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11-05-2018, 02:48 PM | #47 |
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That might not be the best solution in every situation. That could lead you to run a lean code. If you have a downpipe and are throwing the best thing you can do is reach out to me I would be happy to help with any issues that you are having.
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From what I can tell Fabspeed does a pretty good job with both the quality and support. No connection. |
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DP to Exhaust Clamp: 18307620349 - $32.00 Gasket for Turbo: 18307581970 - $22.00 These ones I'm not sure "need" to be replaced, but are cheap enough to do anyway. Mounting Bolt: 07119904992 - $0.61 Mounting Nut: 18307525607 - $1.40 DP to Turbo Clamp: 18307606136 - $34.00 Last edited by Anthony1s; 03-22-2019 at 12:54 PM.. |
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03-21-2019, 10:42 PM | #54 |
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An update on the CEL. This is my 3rd time getting it as I didn't make a post the 2nd time since I figured I just reset and it didn't come back till now. Now I'm just gonna reset it again and hope it doesn't come back. Anyone having similar issues?
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Exhaust leaks will most certainly throw an O2 code. You can check for them with flexible tubing if you don't have a stethoscope. Hold one end to your ear and run the other end around the circumference of the joint. You'll definitely be able to tell if and where your leak is. Obviously the motor must be running.
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05-14-2019, 04:24 PM | #57 |
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Just want to give an update the CEL has came back on a few times but I haven't posted any updates in here. Last night the CEL has came back on again. I have about 25k miles on the car now. Downpipe was installed when I had about 7k miles back in Aug 2017. First CEL came on after 10k miles post install at 17,500.
I reached out to fabspeed and was asked if my 02 spacers were installed. My guy said no as in theory it's not necessary. I doubt it was an installation problem as it's a reputable shop and they installed in my friends M2 prior and never had problems. Also having a spacer doesn't feel proper as it's more of a bandaid and doesn't really fix the problem. I'm not sure if it could be a faulty 02 sensor but are there ways to check if it's bad? Fabspeed suggested to clean the 02 sensor. Any suggestions on how I should move forward with this issue? Last edited by D CHOI; 05-14-2019 at 04:31 PM.. |
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Did you ever find a place that could get a graph printout to check the O2 sensors are functioning properly? I remember this was the hold-up on you getting a warranty replacement. |
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05-14-2019, 07:30 PM | #59 |
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Fabspeed is willing to send me a spacer to fix the issue as this seems to be the easiest solution to the problem.
I haven't went to get the graph printout but I prolly should ask for one but not sure if that will help since it's fine majority of the time. |
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05-14-2019, 10:43 PM | #60 |
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It sounds like the cat is on the way out..
The better solution is to replace it not to try some Band-aid fix. Spacers, CatSims, or anyone other defeat devices to avoid a CEL doesn't work on EWG N55s, that was an N54 trick that some assume still works; trust me, it doesn't. Hence the reason companies like Fabspeed "No CEL" are so popular; if there was a easier, cheaper solution (such as spacers), enthusiast would be all over it by now.. |
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I remember someone saying the Fi Downpipe has extra cat material around the O2 sensors that prevents a CEL. Have you heard of that before? Is that what you meant by CatSims? EDIT: Actually, it seems like bootmod3 can read o2 sensors. But OP doesn't have bootmod3. Last edited by Anthony1s; 05-14-2019 at 11:17 PM.. |
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05-14-2019, 11:33 PM | #62 | |
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I meant a Cat Simulator; it's a piggyback device that taps into downstream O2 sensor to trick the ECU into believing it is operating in a plausible emissions parameter. It use to be popular with the E series BMWs and worked very well when BMW used MSD80 ECUs, these new Bosch ECUs with EWGs its doesn't work and has been know to leave "shadow codes" in the N series's memory, which the dealer could possible detect. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1354108 https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1387542 |
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It's disappointing to think the cat would be going out that soon. I'm also showing fabspeed this thread to bring awareness of the issue I'm having and what people have to say.
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https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1488578
I am in the market for a catted DP as we speak and upon doing some basic research came across this thread. This was for a M235i but the Fabspeed Sport Cat DP is the exact same part they sell to the 2 series guys. Long story short, customer had a faulty part, FS tried to defer the fault to everything BUT their own. Told customer to never bend or forcefully alter any part of the DP to complete install. Later they applauded the customer for bending the DP AND the OEM BMW bracket to make the part fit. Few more cases of exact same caliber come up and FS ends up doing a recall of some sort. The actual read is much more interesting but that's the idea of it. Looking at this thread I think I've made up my mind to go with a different brand. Everyone makes mistakes, even BMW. But the way they handle the situation is what's important. Seems like the first line of action taken by FS with customer issues is to defer them back to the customer. I'll probably go with a different brand and it seems like the likelihood of the DP throwing a CEL at some point down the road is definitely present. But at least i didn't buy a product where i was guaranteed to not throw a CEL and then got the runaround when an issue arises Good luck to all with CELs, hope it gets resolved. |
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Update from Fabspeed
After further discussion with my installer we have come to the conclusion that the spacer may not fit your application. I would like to start the warranty claim now and see what information we can gather. Can you please provide the following information. -All aftermarket modifications to the vehicle -Fuel type -Tune information if applicable -Detailed ECU printout or screenshot showing catalyst fault code, Please include all faults if there are multiple -Graph of O2 sensors both pre, and post catalyst Any and all other diagnostic information gathered |
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05-16-2019, 07:57 PM | #66 |
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So yet another typical fabspeed response
a) It's your fault but here we'll send you a spacer as a bandaid b) lol nvm no spacer for you but here some more hoops to go through before warranty claim for once i just want to see fabspeed go at least something like this: "we are very sorry you're having issues. Please send us your sport cat and we will diagnose" To OP, good luck I hope you get this sorted out for yourself |
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