[Spa2k]

It looks like only three '18 M2s may have arrived in the U.S. (at Baltimore on 08/04/17) before the plant shutdown during Weeks 29, 39 and 31. Anyone else have a Week 27 or 28 LCI delivered to the U.S., on or before that date, by WWL or any other shipper?

There's no big motive here; we're just trying to decipher all the shipping info that's available, to help future buyers more accurately track their cars. With thanks to jjclyde (http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1416892), you'll see on the WWL system that entering your VIN with a "%" at the end, instead of the last five numbers in the Cargo ID space, will show you a chart showing the status of all the M2s currently in the WWL system from today back to July 2017 (including ones now in transit) - when the first '18 M2 delivered to North America came into Nova Scotia. The chart below was updated 9/4/17; last five of VIN removed for privacy.

[ZPrime]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

It looks like these three cars may have been the first production '18 M2s to arrive in the U.S. (At Baltimore on 08/04/17). One is mine; anyone want to claim the others? Anyone else have an '18 delivered to the U.S. on or before that date by WWL or any other shipper?

There's no big motive here; we're just trying to decipher all the shipping info that's available, to help future buyers more accurately track their cars. With thanks to jjclyde here, we've figured out that on the WWL system, if you enter your VIN with a "%" at the end instead of the last five numbers in the Cargo ID space, you'll get a chart showing the status of all the M2s currently in the WWL system, from today back to July 2017, when the first '18 M2 delivered to North America came into Nova Scotia.

Who says you can't do something productive when you're stuck in the office on a holiday weekend?

Heh, if they are allowing a % in their search, there's a decent chance they aren't sanitizing the SQL query properly, meaning you could possibly do all sorts of bad stuff with their database were you so inclined...

[jjclyde]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

Heh, if they are allowing a % in their search, there's a decent chance they aren't sanitizing the SQL query properly, meaning you could possibly do all sorts of bad stuff with their database were you so inclined...

Now now - play nice.

If we abuse the toys, they'll take them away.

[Spa2k]

That's OK. If he sanitized my QSL, I probably wouldn't know he was doing it - unless it felt really, really good.

[pruettfan]

I don't think they build the M2 in sequence like this and assign VINs to M2 and other 2s in series in sequence. I have buddy who's car was built the same day as mine and our cars are 7 apart. Might be wrong but this is my theory.

[ZPrime]

Originally Posted by jjclyde

Now now - play nice.

If we abuse the toys, they'll take them away.

I'm too lazy to figure out how to 'sploit it, and I would never do anything full-on nasty. I deal with this crap for a living and I halfheartedly believe in a form of karma.

But stuff like this is why XKCD made this comic:
https://xkcd.com/327/

And for those who don't get the computer nerdery here:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/ind...loits_of_a_Mom

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

I don't think they build the M2 in sequence like this and assign VINs to M2 and other 2s in series in sequence. I have buddy who's car was built the same day as mine and our cars are 7 apart. Might be wrong but this is my theory.

I've heard the same thing about the VINs; the manufacturers supposedly do this to prevent all the arguing about whose car is more "valuable" based on VIN. In this case, it's the only way we can identify the early '18s. We think these three were on the first WWL boat that reached the U.S. with '18s; the only other possibility, we think, was one that arrived in Galveston at about the same time. We haven't found any early '18s yet that were shipped on other carriers.

[jjclyde]

Originally Posted by ZPrime

I'm too lazy to figure out how to 'sploit it, and I would never do anything full-on nasty. I deal with this crap for a living and I halfheartedly believe in a form of karma.

But stuff like this is why XKCD made this comic:
https://xkcd.com/327/

And for those who don't get the computer nerdery here:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/ind...loits_of_a_Mom

Pretty funny. My living too - and I agree with your half-hearted karma view as well.

[jjclyde]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

I've heard the same thing about the VINs; the manufacturers supposedly do this to prevent all the arguing about whose car is more "valuable" based on VIN. In this case, it's the only way we can identify the early '18s. We think these three were on the first WWL boat that reached the U.S. with '18s; the only other possibility, we think, was one that arrived in Galveston at about the same time. We haven't found any early '18s yet that were shipped on other carriers.

While fooling around with other wildcard searches on the WWL site, searching for the earliest M2 LCI, I found a MY2018 M2 (MG) that was delivered to NY on May 11, 2017. VIN VA12456. Bimmer.work says production date was March 6, 2017. Surely a one-off early production run for corporate use.

And to poke at the sequential/not-sequential idea, I tried the next few VINs on Bimmer.work:

VA12456: MG, March 6, 2017
VA12457: LBB, July 3 2017
VA12458: MG, July 4, 2017
VA12459: AW, July 4, 2017
VA12460: LBB, July 4, 2017
VA12461: AW, July 4, 2017

Not an exhaustive test by any means (and I got tired of solving the damn captcha's), but it looks pretty sequential to me. I know they are not manufactured sequentially on the line - they're mixed with other models produced at Leipzig - but maybe they do assign the M2 vin's sequentially.

[reppucci]

Originally Posted by jjclyde

While fooling around with other wildcard searches on the WWL site, searching for the earliest M2 LCI, I found a MY2018 M2 (MG) that was delivered to NY on May 11, 2017. VIN VA12456. Bimmer.work says production date was March 6, 2017. Surely a one-off early production run for corporate use.

And to poke at the sequential/not-sequential idea, I tried the next few VINs on Bimmer.work:

VA12456: MG, March 6, 2017
VA12457: LBB, July 3 2017
VA12458: MG, July 4, 2017
VA12459: AW, July 4, 2017
VA12460: LBB, July 4, 2017
VA12461: AW, July 4, 2017

Not an exhaustive test by any means (and I got tired of solving the damn captcha's), but it looks pretty sequential to me. I know they are not manufactured sequentially on the line - they're mixed with other models produced at Leipzig - but maybe they do assign the M2 vin's sequentially.

All M2 VINs are sequential! By car type. For example all BMW 1H93 (NA pre lci m2) vins are sequential but may jump from one set of VIN numbers to another. Obviously in that case the VIN will not be sequential. Case in point ...97...98...V351999 to v785800..01...02. The point is that you will not find a non-M2 vehicle produced between two.

The LH and RH european M2 type 1H91 and 1H92 are the same. All sequential VINs within each type except for jumps.

So it is conceivable that a North American 1H93 and Euro LH M2 1H91 came off the production line one after another but with VINs from two different sequential set of VINs so that the these two VINs would not be sequential.

I assume the vin number is generated when the vehicle enters production stage but I do not know that for a fact.

[Spa2k]

It also may be that BMW is doing what Ford does with the Shelby GT 350s, scrambling the VINs within a production run of vehicles in certain color and/or equipment configurations - or on the same day. My GT 350 was one of more than 80 produced the same day, but the VINs varied by up to 600 IIRC.