[ryem3]

I have one on order myself and have been wondering this very question. I debated the same thing going from an OG M2 to a M2C. I broke down the elements and some of the improvements and found that the M2C was quite a good value and it's proven to be a terrific car. How about the M2 CS? Let's take out cross shopping the car, because that can be very subjective (or objective as well). But let's compare it to the cost of an M2C and see if the upgrade represents good value.
I took all of the included parts on an M2 CS and compared it to an M2C to see if you could effectively convert or "improve" an M2C to the level of an M2 CS at a lower cost. MANY have added the M performance parts to M2C's as improvements (including myself), yet the car remains significantly short.

2019 M2C, exec package, metallic paint = $60,650.00
2020 M2 CS, ceramic brakes, metallic paint= $92, 650.00
An incredible $32,000 more!

Is it worth it?

Ok, this is a modestly objective, although simplified breakdown of extras you get with the CS that you would need to add to a Competition. Many elements can be added via M Performance parts, while others will need more subjective cost estimates. I was surprised how many parts are added when you list them. I've added parts at retail, so some items could be discounted and added some labor costs. Also, this doesn't take into account the stock parts that would be retained. In no particular order:

• Carbon ceramic brakes: $8,500
  Forged 763 frosted gold wheels with cup tires: $6,400
  Carbon hood: $6,400
  Carbon roof (w/12.5 hours labor @150/hour): $5,000 (IF you could get one)
  Adjustable suspension: $2,000 (more or less, impossible to add aftermarket)
  M4 seats: $2,000 (good luck actually buying any nice power seats for less)
  V1 M performance wheel (w/1.5 hr install): $1,200
  Carbon/Alcantara interior: $2,000
  Carbon rear diffusor: $1,100
  Carbon front splitter: $1,600 (although the CS unit is deeper than M Perf)
  40 HP engine upgrade: $3,000 (compare to a flash although this is MUCH better with a full warranty and no need for cooling mods)
  Carbon mirror caps: $1,000
  Carbon rear spoiler: $600
  

Total of $42,800!
Perhaps possible for slightly less aftermarket, but many things would be difficult to improve AND you get the full package with a full warranty. And this doesn't include the fine tuning done by the factory to incorporate all the parts.
In the end, an insane amount of modifications to an already great car, the M2 Competition. Many of us have already done these mods at considerable time and expense. Now it's available as a complete package. No extra amount added for the exclusivity or only CS available color. Not a bad deal after all.

[Higgs Boson]

never been discussed before, thank you for creating this stimulating thread.

[///M2CS]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

never been discussed before, thank you for creating this stimulating thread.

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by ryem3

I have one on order myself and have been wondering this very question. I debated the same thing going from an OG M2 to a M2C. I broke down the elements and some of the improvements and found that the M2C was quite a good value and it's proven to be a terrific car. How about the M2 CS? Let's take out cross shopping the car, because that can be very subjective (or objective as well). But let's compare it to the cost of an M2C and see if the upgrade represents good value.
I took all of the included parts on an M2 CS and compared it to an M2C to see if you could effectively convert or "improve" an M2C to the level of an M2 CS at a lower cost. MANY have added the M performance parts to M2C's as improvements (including myself), yet the car remains significantly short.

2019 M2C, exec package, metallic paint = $60,650.00
2020 M2 CS, ceramic brakes, metallic paint= $92, 650.00
An incredible $32,000 more!

Is it worth it?

Good questions! ...but this horse has been beaten to death, propped back up on stilts and then beaten to death again...and then kicked on the ground for good measure. Read the US MSRP thread and you'll see every conceivable side of the argument.

[ryem3]

Great feedback!
Now I added the meat to the argument!

[ryem3]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

never been discussed before, thank you for creating this stimulating thread.

I've yet to see any objective breakdown - or point me to one!

[F87M2CS]

Here’s the question I don’t believe someone has answered or mentioned (ok they probably have and I’m too lazy to re-read ALL of the other thread)

Who here wants to buy a used car that someone has modified to make it look like a CS? What kind of depreciation does an “original” “stock” M2 Comp take once modification occurs?

I would much rather either 1) Buy an original CS 2) Buy an used original CS

The idea of buying a Comp and then trying to convert it to a CS seems as asinine as these “Is the CS really worth it threads”

If you want a Comp then get it. If you want a CS then get it.

Simple.

[///M2CS]

Originally Posted by F87M2C

Here’s the question I don’t believe someone has answered or mentioned (ok they probably have and I’m too lazy to re-read ALL of the other thread)

Who here wants to buy a used car that someone has modified to make it look like a CS? What kind of depreciation does an “original” “stock” M2 Comp take once modification occurs?

I would much rather either 1) Buy an original CS 2) Buy an used original CS

The idea of buying a Comp and then trying to convert it to a CS seems as asinine as these “Is the CS really worth it threads”

If you want a Comp then get it. If you want a CS then get it.

Simple.

Right !

this comparison is a constant in particular for BMW
the owners of M3 E46 were already wondering 16 years ago if the price of the CSL was justified and if it was not better to upgrade an M3 E46
Each his arguments

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by F87M2C

Here's the question I don't believe someone has answered or mentioned (ok they probably have and I'm too lazy to re-read ALL of the other thread)

Who here wants to buy a used car that someone has modified to make it look like a CS? What kind of depreciation does an "original" "stock" M2 Comp take once modification occurs?

I would much rather either 1) Buy an original CS 2) Buy an used original CS

The idea of buying a Comp and then trying to convert it to a CS seems as asinine as these "Is the CS really worth it threads"

If you want a Comp then get it. If you want a CS then get it.

Simple.

For real, there are far too many use cases and personal factors that arguing it out on these threads is painful.

I will say, you are right, and nobody ever takes that into consideration the depreciation. Buy a M2C for 60k or an M2CS for 85k. All other things equal which is going to depreciate more in 5 years, 10 years, etc? It's easy to look at the sticker price alone and make a value judgement based on that number and what you personally value in the M2CS. But that number is a lot smaller than it first appears when depreciation is considered.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ryem3

I have one on order myself

Originally Posted by GimmeanM

Good questions! ...but this horse has been beaten to death, propped back up on stilts and then beaten to death again...and then kicked on the ground for good measure. Read the US MSRP thread and you'll see every conceivable side of the argument.

Case closed.

Footage of the case:

[AxM2CS]

... and yet we somehow managed to make a well-flogged, thoroughly dead topic resurrect like the Second Coming and survive another ten posts (wait, er, this make eleven!!)

[ryem3]

Originally Posted by ///M2CS

Right !

this comparison is a constant in particular for BMW
the owners of M3 E46 were already wondering 16 years ago if the price of the CSL was justified and if it was not better to upgrade an M3 E46
Each his arguments

Ah well, thought it was worthwhile to look at the relative cost of all the options. I remember so many people with e46m3's adding CSL front bumpers...

While costly by comparison, the car seems reasonable bang for the buck, as costly as it is.

Geeze, I added the splitter, spoiler, diffuser, wheel, carbon interior, mirror caps, and the list goes on.

[MadBimmeRad]

I once paid $7,500 to buy a 20¢ coin. The year that coin was minted in error, there were 25 million more coins minted also each worth, wait for it, 20¢ - however, there were 7 coins minted in error and are now each worth over $20k.

The M2CS is like the coin I bought all those years ago.

It's rare, it's desirable, it's a fine specimen right out of the factory.

If you don't mind the level of irrelevance to your car's desirability and rarity, by all means get the ordinary 20¢ coin (here known as the M2C). Otherwise, pay the premium to own a rare specimen - here, a piece of motoring history also known as the M2 CS

That's my two bob's worth

Originally Posted by ryem3

In the end, an insane amount of modifications to an already great car, the M2 Competition. Many of us have already done these mods at considerable time and expense. Now it's available as a complete package. No extra amount added for the exclusivity or only CS available color. Not a bad deal after all.

In conclusion, I concur with your ending statement " Not a bad deal After all" indeed.

[medphysdave]

Looks like we should all be on the Yaris GR list. Cheaper than the comp and get most of the performance. Half the cost of the CS.

I couldn't resist jumping in for another round. Artemis's video pretty much sums this up.

[Jimjamz]

Is a GT3 911 good value? Is a F8 Tributo good value?

Why bother asking this question? The F87 CS was not released to answer a question about delivering better value.

[Bimmed Out]

If you want a great value, get the M2C. If you want the very best, get the M2 CS. Just don’t try to mod your M2C to try to get it like the M2 CS, because you will soon find the M2 CS is a better value than first thought.

[///M2CS]

Originally Posted by ryem3

Ah well, thought it was worthwhile to look at the relative cost of all the options. I remember so many people with e46m3's adding CSL front bumpers...

While costly by comparison, the car seems reasonable bang for the buck, as costly as it is.

Geeze, I added the splitter, spoiler, diffuser, wheel, carbon interior, mirror caps, and the list goes on.

the price differential was identical between an M3 E46 SMGII and a CSL in 2004: € 58,500 vs € 89,600 in France if we take into account the CSL's rating and its resale value, which is always much higher than that an M3 E46, we can find financial logic arguments to the purchase of an M2 CS

[MomoM3]

Had a nice 2018 M3 ZCP 6MT then added the carbon diffuser, then a CS carbon front splitter, then then the CS carbon spoiler - I could have gone on and on trying to make it a CS...

Had I opted for an M2 Comp, I would have done the same, which is why I just said fuck it and went for the M2 CS this go-around.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by MomoM3

Had a nice 2018 M3 ZCP 6MT then added the carbon diffuser, then a CS carbon front splitter, then then the CS carbon spoiler - I could have gone on and on trying to make it a CS...
Had I opted for an M2 Comp, I would have done the same, which is why I just said fuck it and went for the M2 CS this go-around.

If you got an M2 CS, don't bother about financial investment -- it's an investment in driving fun quality time, straight out of the ///M box.

Let it ride !