04-03-2022, 08:11 PM | #1 |
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Best Intercooler for hot climates?
I'm planning on buying an Intercooler and various other mods for my M2 LCI. I'm currently in Vancouver and I was thinking about buying the Wagner Evo competition 2. However, I will be moving back to the Middle East in a couple of months and I'm taking my car with me. The car will be stage 2 tuned and have these parts:
Fabspeed sports cat Dorch stage 1 HPFP MST Turbo inlet FTP Charge pipe and boost pipe Turbosmart BOV Kompact EM Plumb Back VR11 AFE Pro dry s drop on filter NGK 97506 1-step colder spark plugs Do you think that the Wagner Evo competition 2 FMIC will be sufficient for hot summers in the Middle East, or would you recommend a bigger Intercooler? Temperatures can reach 122 degrees.. Thanks! |
04-04-2022, 05:07 AM | #2 |
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Get a RACE intercooler: BMS, VRSF or the like.
The EVO2 will have higher cruising temps, higher temps overall, not dissipate heat as well, cost more and do nothing better. Avoid. |
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I'm mainly worried about turbo lag as it'll be a few months before I purchase PS2. I'm leaning more towards the CSF intercooler, do you think turbo lag will be a problem? Can it be reduced with a custom tune?
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If you want to me to be blunt, there are more reports of ‘lag’ with the CSF than there are with the RACE ICs. The CSF is a good intercooler, the Race cores are absolutely better and are recommended for people using upgraded turbos. Buy in confidence Edit: do not use the NGK plugs, stick with stock. Last edited by AmuroRay; 04-04-2022 at 05:54 AM.. |
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BMS or MAD race intercoolers.
i tested the MAD on the shop's car this weekend and im very happy with the result.
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04-04-2022, 12:42 PM | #7 |
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Any Race intercooler is good. Wasn't usually a fan of ARM but their F30 Race intercooler is a nice unit. (Same as the evolution racewerks)
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It’s smaller (22lbs? Vs 27lbs) meaning less thermal capacity. It also doesn’t have a stepped rear portion, so in low speed (traffic) situations, the puller fan isn’t going to help keep IATs down. This won’t change anything in terms of absolute performance, but it’s something to know. Last edited by AmuroRay; 05-31-2022 at 03:45 PM.. |
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The gap is more critical than the heat range imo.
Won't fit, you'll have to pull the front brace as per others who tried to use the 6.5" version.
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Honestly, I've heard about more than a few of them being defective out of the box. They literally do nothing better and are a point of constant headaches. I have a set and they worked initially, but started causing issues in less than 5K miles.
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I would still consider a Race intercooler and plan to swap out the brace with the M235I version.
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I wouldn't trade chassis stiffness to go with a race intercooler. I would rather go with D088 or CSF at that point and retain the brace.
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So apparently it actually doesn't improve handling on it's own, but does raise the driver confidence level. But I get what you're saying.
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On the m2 I wouldnt trade chassis stiffness to run a larger intercooler, I'd instead buy an intercooler that was designed for the car so nothing has to be removed.
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Well in regards to CSF their mounting hardware is kind of sub optimal imo, so I hope they have improved upon this.
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Your climate is extreme and you’re going to be running an upgraded turbo - you’ll need a race IC, don’t compromise.
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Unfortunately, I did not have enough time to test the intercooler as the car had unrelated problems with the engine, but I would not expect any pressure drop issues.
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OP I also forgot about WMI But that’s not something I personally have experience with.
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So if you are concerned with meth, I would run distilled water injection - that removes the concern of corrosion and oil dilution, however you still need good safety systems so you don't cause hydro lock or knocking.
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