03-22-2020, 06:46 PM | #45 |
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Got a CF strut, aluminium brace, reinforcement rings and screws off a wrecked M4 on eBay for £360 that's a record low though.
Funny today I put the stock steel brace into storage and laughed at it as I picked it up, it's a disgrace. |
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03-22-2020, 06:47 PM | #46 |
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Wow! I paid more than that for the CF part alone! Lucky you.
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04-08-2020, 12:43 AM | #47 |
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Thanks for all the replies.
Is there a ‘how to’ anywhere on the M2C/ M3/ M4 strut assembly install? Do you need to do much modifying? Cheers Kris |
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You don't need to do any modifying because you can replace everything with OEM parts. If you want to scrimp on parts it is possible to modify some of the OG trim pieces to get them to fit around the brace, but it's not an elegant solution. Everything you need to know is in the Suspension sub-forum thread, including a full parts list for the OG M2 with all bolts, torque settings etc.
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04-08-2020, 03:29 PM | #49 |
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I scrimped! Garage cut my parts. Doesnt bother me but it might some. Even with what I paid and scrimping it was basically a grand all in to get parts and install.
As before though highly recommended and no doubt fooled the journos into thinking the suspension tuning had been changed. You can certainly feel the front suspension actually working now. |
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04-11-2020, 01:53 AM | #50 |
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Thanks chaps, will check this out!
I guess no one has done a comparison between this and just a strut brace. And, I presume BMW would have just used a strut brace if they thought that was the answer! Cheers |
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For the record - about the M2C suspension:
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Press materials M2 (2015): "Lightweight design and precise wheel location.Press materials M2 Competition (2018): "Increased front-end rigidity for greater steering precision.FWIW, here's what former BMW M boss Frank van Meel said about the M2C suspension in an interview (published last April) with forum fellow MR. (source: here and here): "MR: In what way did you listen to the existing customer base and included their remarks in this new car?BMW M head of development Dirk Häcker mentioned "changed spring and damper tuning" and that chassis revisions provide the M2C with "significantly improved response and more progressive on-the-limit characteristics" than the original M2 (Autocar UK magazine article published last Spring: see here):
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So the conclusion is nothing changed except the brace and the EPS, DSC, and differential software, yes?
If they tweaked any rates it would be a rev to the existing part number. The statement about steering software change is accurate I'm sure, but it seems physically impossible for it to reduce body roll. |
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Having both (me M2C and my bro OG M2), I can say that the difference in EPS and DSC sw is very noticeable, the steer feedback is more natural, the MDM mode allows more slip and the car is more confident and controllable on power slidings. Hard to say how much difference make the strut brace and the big brakes since he doesn't allow me to push his car
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On the same car, nothing else changed.
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Hence, I've used Thor to flash Comp MDM and GTS MDiff settings only. All good 👍
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It's possible the M2C steering changes made it into the standard M2 firmware in the latest updates. People thought the M3/M4 ZCP had the power delivery changes, but it seems like it's all M3/M4s past a certain software revision.
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The DSC option for F87GTS was the most beneficial in my opinion. I was running Euro F82GTS before, and while great most of the time, it had a tendency to cut power on tight turns way too early, even in MDM mode. The Euro F87GTS option solves that whilst still allowing quite a bit of sideways action in MDM mode.
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I think I either started or contributed to a thread about the process at the time. The F87GTS setting feels pretty much identical to the F82GTS one, but without the negative side effects. The F82GTS is pretty great, but it bothered me a lot by kicking in really early when going round those spiral on or off ramps from a freeway, the F87GTS setting doesn't do that.
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M2C has 'competition' badge on the back, redistributed weight helps.
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Trollin' or bullsh1ttin' ?
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Have you not heard that it has 'rose bushes' fitted to both ends? The front has a climbing rose to improve cornering, while the rear has a bush rose to improve traction...
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