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This is a two part review(edited 4/21)...I had a set of Ohlins installed yesterday with lower spring ratings 80/160N/mm (vs standard 90/190N/mm) and set them at 17 clicks or medium firm (ie 1-5 for track; 5-10 for canyons; 15+ for street). My first impression is they are awesome and at the current settings feel very OEM as far as firmness; but the car feels more planted. When hitting a bump the car is far less 'bouncy' and settles right back in without nearly as much rebound.
So it was a big expense for only a distinct improvement in handling characteristics...but it is hard to improve on what I think is already an excellent handling suspension. I will write another review in a couple of weeks once I have really pushed it both at 17 clicks and again set on a very firm 5 click setting and hit the local back road run. I suspect the real gains will be when it is set on 5 clicks and I hit the track. But so far I am quite happy I made the move.
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Even a car like the M2 it shouldn't be hard to take off 2 seconds or more with a properly installed and setup high quality coilover kit. Some drivers are much faster on softer rates and don't see any gains with higher rates.
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Other than that I'm liking the improvements but haven't been able to really test them out. They're set to 12 clicks |
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11-28-2017, 07:42 PM | #27 |
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My ride height was dropped by 1 cm as spec'd, I did not write down the exact measurements as the car was also corner balanced; but it is definitely a little lower. I am thoroughly enjoying the adjustability....great to be able to go from super stiff ready for the track to slightly firm, (edited)not quite as soft as stock...no matter what setting these dampers really are superior and nearly eliminate any bounce which used to happen with any bigger bumps or road undulations.
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I'm not certain, but I suspect running 70N/mm front and 140N/mm rear would make it slightly softer than stock and way more settled in the bumps...
At the softest setting my set up is slightly stiffer than stock, but far more settled in the bumps....which really was an upgrade for driving back roads...
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Now I am torn as to any next steps(besides signing up for more track days!!!)...think I will go for the Apex 18"squared setup and see if I can maintain the track prowess and get a tiny bit more comfort on the street....hmmm, vs trying the 70/140 Nmm spring set I am contemplating....anyone out there running Ohlins with 70/140Nmm?
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I think I put 3,000+ miles of wear on them in one afternoon!!!!...I am already starting my savings account for new pads ( I am torn between a dual purpose pad ie Ferodo DS2500 vs a track pad is Pagid 29) and some track wheels ie apex 9.5 18" square set up.... You have to get your beast on the track, it is really at home on the track...a total blast!!!!
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From a non track experienced person that drives a shit load of awesome cars for work:
I installed my standard rate spring ohlins kit, and I can't explain how well the shocks work on the road. Sure the ride is a little bit stiffer, but it's not unbearable like most coil overs. I very happy I went with ohlins over just springs and shocks. For the amount of driving I do on the freeway I might change the rear springs to be a notch softer, but I'll wait until I can get some good canyon drives in and see how it feels. Is there a good documented thread about fender height and bump steer? I only set the ohlins to be 0.75" lower, which I think is the perfect height for me. I was also concerned about bump steer that I have experienced in previous BMW's from going too low. Also I would recommend anyone going with the ohlins kit to order an extra set of front shock dust protectors as the rears don't really fit well, but the fronts on the rear fit perfect but require some prying to get on the shock. |
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It seems relatively unchanged; still just a bit of oversteer ...I assume there is some adjustability if needed; but at this point a wee bit of oversteer works well for me as I am not really spending much time at the limits....on that point, mind you it was my first time at the track but the first half of the day I thought I was close to the limit only to realize later in the day I was nowhere close. This car is really amazing, as my lap time went down I started realizing just how stable it was and that I could push substantially higher with good control.
More track time...and an Apex 18" x 9.5" square set up are in my future!!!
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My Ohlins are on the way, can't wait to install them. I have the Ohlin springs at the default spring rates and a set of Swift springs (80 N/mm front and 160 N/mm rear) coming with them. I am going to run the Swift springs first to see how I like them.
Also ordered some Vorshlag camber plates so that I don't have to worry about that in the future.
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My Ohlins experience
Installed my R&T along with GC camber plates (2.6 camber at the front and 1.6 ish stock at the rear) about 3 weeks ago with corner balancing close to 50/50 diagonal. (I believe it was 49.87)
Spring rates are Ohlins' recommended rates 90 N/mm front and 190 N/mm rear. Never had it softened but only driven with 5 clicks front and the rear. Man.. it rides hard but it will get you great cornering so it gives you the confidence. I personally don't mind riding hard on street (it is my DD as well), but it is more important for me to have agile handling and cornering even just rolling daily bases. I thought I was going to put aftermarket sway bar + toe links, but I don't think I need them. However, things could be different after my track experience. I haven't tracked mine and will be tracking on the last week of May. I will post another review after one full day 6 hours sessions (Will need to mount new FMIC). Have a friend around my area who had same spring rates but 20 clicks all around. He said that the ride is "noticeably" better on bumpy uneven payment that we have in Toronto, Canada. Controls better above potholes and softer than stock but still have good cornering and better launch grip as rear will have more traction due to softer damper setting. Had Contis at my delivery so changed tires to MPS4S (255F/ 275R) and certainly they all deliver great traction and just enough for M2 to deliver its power to the ground. Contis + stock suspension gave 1+2 gear (6MT) wheel spin until 2nd gear goes above 5k rpm (traction light on all the way). Current setup basically reduces such wheel spin and experiencing also blink of spin at 1st gear until about 4k rpm. No spin in gear transition from 1 to 2 and steadily delivers the toque to the ground at 2nd gear regardless what rpm you are hitting. Yes, roll was there with stock setup at some aggressive cornering and I can simply tell the roll isn't much issue anymore. I did some maneuver test at empty parking lot (like you see one of the cone test you may have seen from different youtube video clips) and YES it does deliver you the great balance. One thing I am not sure about is long high speed cornering at track sessions and autocross. Rolling at high G numbers with high speed won't be just simply solved by having harder damper setting. This is only my question that I currently have. Solution? As I mentioned, I will be (if I still think it is needed) putting anti-roll sway bar and toe links. You can set more neutral cornering if you don't like over-steer that nature of our F87 has, you can lose your damper clicks at the rear (or tighten the front clicks) or setting your sway bar setting differently. But this depends on your driving behavior. Finding the perfect setting for me will be another fun journey. Hope this helps! |
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I've read elsewhere that the Ohlins R&T require rebuilds every 15k miles. Is this the case with the M2 setup? A bit much for a "street" setup. Seems to be the only downside to this kit, if true.
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I suppose if you race the car, or run 15+ events per year, that may be the case. However, I would suggest monitoring the tubes/reservoir and address as necessary. I'd estimate you could run them for a long time if just street driving |
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