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      08-03-2020, 07:23 AM   #199
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About to start looking for a set of MP coils, and I'm still unsure of the real drop. Some websites say 20/20, some say 25/20, some say 25/25. Anyone know the absolute truth on this matter? I HATE that 10mm of extra gap in the stock suspension.
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Bmw recomends 595mm front and 600mm rear measured from the lowest point on the wheel rim to the lowest point on the top of the wheel arch lip. I measured mine (stock suspensions) and it is 620mm F/R, so the MPS drop 25mm/20mm.
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You can of course go lower, but the dampers - according to the Approval certificate - have had their centre point set to work with the recommended ride height.
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About to start looking for a set of MP coils, and I'm still unsure of the real drop. Some websites say 20/20, some say 25/20, some say 25/25. Anyone know the absolute truth on this matter? I HATE that 10mm of extra gap in the stock suspension.
I never measured my M2 and the M2C had the MPC fitted prior to delivery.

I did take these measurements from a M2 on the dealer's lot.

BMW M2 (M2C?) ride height
676.3mm - 26 5/8” front
685.8mm - 27” rear

and a forum member provided these measurements to me, which seems very low compared to what I measured but I did check it multiple times?

625.5mm - 24 5/8" front
614.4mm - 24 3/16" rear

What's your stock height?

The instructions say to set to 595 mm front & 600 mm rear.

My car in March 2020, after ~ 4,500 miles and sitting all winter measured
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=29

My car at delivery with the MPCs installed, 595 mm front, and 600 mm rear. (without any load)
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=11

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You can of course go lower, but the dampers - according to the Approval certificate - have had their centre point set to work with the recommended ride height.
I just don't want to mess with it, I was going to buy them, crank them down as low as possible, and install. I don't want to be raising and lowering and all that trash. Set it, and leave it, that's what I want.


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I never measured my M2 and the M2C had the MPC fitted prior to delivery.

I did take these measurements from a M2 on the dealer's lot.

BMW M2 (M2C?) ride height
676.3mm - 26 5/8” front
685.8mm - 27” rear

and a forum member provided these measurements to me, which seems very low compared to what I measured but I did check it multiple times?

625.5mm - 24 5/8" front
614.4mm - 24 3/16" rear

What's your stock height?

The instructions say to set to 595 mm front & 600 mm rear.

My car in March 2020, after ~ 4,500 miles and sitting all winter measured
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=29

My car at delivery with the MPCs installed, 595 mm front, and 610 mm rear. (without any load)
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=11
I get 623 front and 616 rear, for a difference of 7mm.
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Maybe the Competition is different? This is what i see on mine. I have to try to measure my bro's OG M2 asap.


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So with the M Performance coilovers the car sits significantly lower comparing to stock suspension?
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So with the M Performance coilovers the car sits significantly lower comparing to stock suspension?
Visually it sits quite a bit lower. Then there's better damping, which you can adjust to suit how you use your car. And you get to keep the warranty.

The latter two points may not be of interest to all, but the first one looks good.
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So with the M Performance coilovers the car sits significantly lower comparing to stock suspension?
It sits 20 mm lower in the rear when all the way down (in my case) and the front can be pretty much anything you want. Visually that's quite a bit lower but not slammed - just right. Functionally, it's perfect, too. I've never scratched on anything, never had trouble with any speed bumps or inclines (unlike Sachs coilovers that I tried before). I wouldn't want to go any lower or higher, and I think it's the sweet spot, and the default damping settings, out of the box, are spot on for daily driving, too.
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So this is my 2020 M2C- car has the MP Suspension installed. Now my car was corner balanced and aligned perfectly. Also running 10mm future Classic spacers with future Classic studs.

MP was installed with only tick over 500miles
- car now has 1300 or so miles. Pic was taken last week.


I feel like the height is perfect-
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So this is my 2020 M2C- car has the MP Suspension installed. Now my car was corner balanced and aligned perfectly. Also running 10mm future Classic spacers with future Classic studs.

MP was installed with only tick over 500miles
- car now has 1300 or so miles. Pic was taken last week.


I feel like the height is perfect-
Looks great! I also have the 10mm Future Classic spacers and the MP suspension. Unfortunately, I can't find any shop which will corner balance my car in my area. Guess I'll keep looking...

I can't tell from the picture, but what front lip is that?
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So this is my 2020 M2C- car has the MP Suspension installed. Now my car was corner balanced and aligned perfectly. Also running 10mm future Classic spacers with future Classic studs.

MP was installed with only tick over 500miles
- car now has 1300 or so miles. Pic was taken last week.


I feel like the height is perfect-
now that looks great... how does it feel over bumps etc?
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So this is my 2020 M2C- car has the MP Suspension installed. Now my car was corner balanced and aligned perfectly. Also running 10mm future Classic spacers with future Classic studs.

MP was installed with only tick over 500miles
- car now has 1300 or so miles. Pic was taken last week.


I feel like the height is perfect-
Just ordered my 10mm spacers and debating if I should go MP or V3s for a lower drop.
Is that pic max lowered?
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So this is my 2020 M2C- car has the MP Suspension installed. Now my car was corner balanced and aligned perfectly. Also running 10mm future Classic spacers with future Classic studs.

MP was installed with only tick over 500miles
- car now has 1300 or so miles. Pic was taken last week.


I feel like the height is perfect-
Looks great! I also have the 10mm Future Classic spacers and the MP suspension. Unfortunately, I can't find any shop which will corner balance my car in my area. Guess I'll keep looking...

I can't tell from the picture, but what front lip is that?
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So this is my 2020 M2C- car has the MP Suspension installed. Now my car was corner balanced and aligned perfectly. Also running 10mm future Classic spacers with future Classic studs.

MP was installed with only tick over 500miles
- car now has 1300 or so miles. Pic was taken last week.


I feel like the height is perfect-
Looks great! I also have the 10mm Future Classic spacers and the MP suspension. Unfortunately, I can't find any shop which will corner balance my car in my area. Guess I'll keep looking...

I can't tell from the picture, but what front lip is that?

Thanks! It's the Sterckenn CF front lip. I ordered it from IND. I was shocked to how light it was.
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So this is my 2020 M2C- car has the MP Suspension installed. Now my car was corner balanced and aligned perfectly. Also running 10mm future Classic spacers with future Classic studs.

MP was installed with only tick over 500miles
- car now has 1300 or so miles. Pic was taken last week.


I feel like the height is perfect-
now that looks great... how does it feel over bumps etc?
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So this is my 2020 M2C- car has the MP Suspension installed. Now my car was corner balanced and aligned perfectly. Also running 10mm future Classic spacers with future Classic studs.

MP was installed with only tick over 500miles
- car now has 1300 or so miles. Pic was taken last week.


I feel like the height is perfect-
Looks great! I also have the 10mm Future Classic spacers and the MP suspension. Unfortunately, I can't find any shop which will corner balance my car in my area. Guess I'll keep looking...

I can't tell from the picture, but what front lip is that?

Car feels great! 0 issues over speed bumps or humps in the road.
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Do to the corner balancing - I'm not sure if it's maxed out.
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Do to the corner balancing - I'm not sure if it's maxed out.
Surely isn't. With the needed rake, the front will have play.
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Just ordered my 10mm spacers and debating if I should go MP or V3s for a lower drop.
Is that pic max lowered?
Having tried other coilovers before that allowed for a lower drop, I can tell you this: you need to think twice if you really need a drop lower than what you get with the MP coilovers. Else, if you push the car hard you will rub. Drop another 3-4mm, stock tires, no spacers, no nothing, you will rub if pushed hard. The MP drop is the reasonable maximum drop you want if you plan to push the car and/or have passengers, have spacers, etc. It may be moot point.

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Having tried other coilovers before that allowed for a lower drop, I can tell you this: you need to think twice if you really need a drop lower than what you get with the MP coilovers. Else, if you push the car hard you will rub. Drop another 3-4mm, stock tires, no spacers, no nothing, you will rub if pushed hard. The MP drop is the reasonable maximum drop you want if you plan to push the car and/or have passengers, have spacers, etc. It may be moot point.
Noted, thank you
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Has anybody tried the m perfomance coilovers on a race track? Is there any noticeable difference in lap time in comparison to stock suspension?
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Has anybody tried the m perfomance coilovers on a race track? Is there any noticeable difference in lap time in comparison to stock suspension?
Yes and yes*

*for TD's only though so no laptimes per se based on higher entry / exit speeds @ turns on tracks stock then with MPerf coilovers

Car's balance and grip are both improved plus tyres (esp fronts) last longer despite being made to work harder
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Yes and yes*

*for TD's only though so no laptimes per se based on higher entry / exit speeds @ turns on tracks stock then with MPerf coilovers

Car's balance and grip are both improved plus tyres (esp fronts) last longer despite being made to work harder
Is there any lap time difference recorded in seconds?

1 or 2 seconds per lap?
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