[Artemis]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

VIN long WBS1H9C51GV351823

Built on August 24, 2015. It's in the list of pre-production cars:
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...26&postcount=1

Specs according to the public VIN Decoder:

Standard Equipment
1CB Co2 Content
2VZ 19"lt/aly Wheels Do.sp. 437 M/mt Bl
249 Multi-function For Steering Wheel
4AE Armrest Front Retractable
4MC Interior Trim Finishers Carbon Fibre
4NE Blow-by-heater
481 Sport Seats F Driver/front Passenger
5DC Folding Rear-seat Headrests
5DS Luggage-compartment Emerg. Release
502 Headlight Washer System
522 Xenon Light
544 Cruise Control With Braking Function
645 Radio Control Us
663 Radio Bmw Professional
760 Individual High-gloss Satin Chrome
823 Hot Climate Version
845 Acoustic Belt Warning
853 Language Version English
992 Number Plate Attachement Management
993 Model Year Code

Options
1CA Selection Cop Relevant Vehicles
2VB Tyre Pressure Indicator
248 Steering Wheel Heating
3AG Backup Camera
302 Alarm System
319 Integrated Universal Remote Control
423 Floor Mats, Velour
430 Int/ext Rr Vw Mirror W Aut Anti-dazzle
431 Interior Rr Vw Mirror W Aut Anti-dazzle
5AC Autom. High-beam Headlights Control
5AS Driving Assistant
507 Park Distance Control (pdc)
521 Rain Sensor
563 Lights Package
6AC Intelligent Emergency Call
6AE Teleservices
6AK Connecteddrive Services
6AN Concierge Services
6AP Remote Services
6NS Convenience Telephony With Extended
655 Satellite Radio
697 Area-code 1
8KL Oelserviceint. 15.000km/11months
8TN Daytime Driving Lights Selectable B
9AA External Skin Protection
9AD Lockable Camouflage Tarpaulin
906 Spec. Check Photo Veh.f Nw Series Run-in
925 Shipping Protection Package
991 Pre-series Management

[miiipilot]

How does this bloated car go 4.2 in 6mt? Blah blah C&D is shilling for BMW. Someone go check the mag...it must be filled with adverts from BMW. Total rubbish!

IMHO if it handles the weight effortlessly...I'll take it. The only thing that worries me is the drone/noise in everyday DD guise.

I guess I like my cars like my women...chubby!

[335BOY]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

From my recollection, that's a 991 base 7MT. Pretty sad for a $90k stripper. That's a major reason the 991.2 is turbo now.

Really?
Sad for a $90,000 stripper? There is more to a sports car than 0-60 times..............

[auf Deutsch]

Originally Posted by 335BOY

Really?
Sad for a $90,000 stripper? There is more to a sports car than 0-60 times..............

I didn't reference 0-60 times. No one did. We were talking about 1/4 mile times and trap speed. Yes, 12.7 @ 113 is sad for a $90k base 991.1 with zero options given that the Carerra has long been regarded as the quintessential sports car. A car with such great handling and luxurious appointments should have the straight line speed as well. This is where the turbo 991.2 will rectify the previous generation's shortcoming.

[Verbiage]

LOL at the F80 drivers who scoffed because they thought the M2 wouldn't trap in the teens. Estimated times are always more conservative than concrete numbers, as has been tried and true from BMW, year after year.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by chris719

Crunches 2nd gear synchro on fast shifts. I wonder what will happen first: BMW fixes their 2nd gear grind on M cars or they stop offering MT altogether?

Bad on E46 M3, horrific on Z4M, bad on E9x M3, occasionally reported on F8x M3/M4...

I can shift a Mazda 3 faster into 2nd than I could my Z4M. Didn't have this problem with a 135i I drove though.

No 1 series issues that I'm aware of.

[The long haul]

Impressive! DCT option will definitely shave some time off of this.
A JB4 and some basic bolt ons should do this car well.
I'd much rather have this versus the F8x myself.

[jballs16]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

LOL at the F80 drivers who scoffed because they thought the M2 wouldn't trap in the teens. Estimated times are always more conservative than concrete numbers, as has been tried and true from BMW, year after year.

You have fun with that 12.7 car /givesnicepatontheback

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by jballs16

You have fun with that 12.7 car /givesnicepatontheback

Lol. Just don't go flipping your car and killing yourself because BMW didn't get the traction mechanics right on it. /laysrosesonyourcasket

[PrematureApex]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

I didn't reference 0-60 times. No one did. We were talking about 1/4 mile times and trap speed. Yes, 12.7 @ 113 is sad for a $90k base 991.1 with zero options given that the Carerra has long been regarded as the quintessential sports car. A car with such great handling and luxurious appointments should have the straight line speed as well. This is where the turbo 991.2 will rectify the previous generation's shortcoming.

Well, that point went well over your head.

There's more to a sports car than 1/4 times/traps.

That's plenty of straight line speed. Some of the best sports cars on the planet are slow as all hell.

Moreover, there are plenty of people who'd give up straight line speed in order to retain an N/A engine. The throttle response and linearity that come with it work much, much better from a chassis balance department vs. a turbocharged engine.

Sure, the new 911 "rectifies" your need for straight line speed, but it does so at the expense of something many people (INCLUDING PORSCHE mind you) didn't want to give up.

Apparently, it's guys like you (and Obama) killing our revvy N/A mills.

Because you need to trap more than 113 to get to the 7-11 on time.

[clubsport]

Originally Posted by miiipilot

How does this bloated car go 4.2 in 6mt? Blah blah C&D is shilling for BMW. Someone go check the mag...it must be filled with adverts from BMW. Total rubbish!

IMHO if it handles the weight effortlessly...I'll take it. The only thing that worries me is the drone/noise in everyday DD guise.

I guess I like my cars like my women...chubby!

And Quiet??? (Kidding)

[asus389]

Despite raving about the car they really hated the steering. Are there any modern cars that have legit steering feel? Makes me want to throw some more coins in my e90 repair fund...

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by asus389

Despite raving about the car they really hated the steering. Are there any modern cars that have legit steering feel? Makes me want to throw some more coins in my e90 repair fund...

Buy a Lotus or a Miata.

[Makman]

I hate all imperial-units-measurements. Anybody has this info in metric units?


http://www.geek-jokes.com/wp-content...EU-670x673.png

[playitfunky]

Any reason why 0-60 is 4.2s but 5-60 rolling is 4.7s?
And is 91 fuel equivalent to 98 Ron we get in the uk?
Genuine questions, sorry if these are obvious to you all!

[bigdnno98]

Much better times and MPH. Awesome!

[gmzanatta]

Originally Posted by playitfunky

Any reason why 0-60 is 4.2s but 5-60 rolling is 4.7s?
And is 91 fuel equivalent to 98 Ron we get in the uk?
Genuine questions, sorry if these are obvious to you all!

91 AKI = 95 RON (not exact but close)

Your 98 RON is closer to a 93-94 AKI

[Sedan_Clan]

Nice numbers from the baby M.

[vladberca]

Too bad they couldn't make it lighter! At least on par with the 1M!

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by 3tekcorps

Nice.. thanks. Don't miss the tech sheet near the bottom right. It's about 5 decibels louder than an M235 they tested.

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...rbmwm22016.pdf

+5 dB is a lot louder. Psychoacoustics comes into play here but +10 dB is what most people would consider "twice as loud." So +5 dB can be thought of as 50% louder.

[Cope]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

No 1 series issues that I'm aware of.

The 1m definitely has a weak 2nd gear synchro, there's been a few threads on the topic. Mine decided to start grinding on quick shifts from 1st to 2nd at about 16k miles. Brought it to the dealer and they couldn't replicate the problem themselves, but we ended up just taking them for a spin to show em.

Their fix is to replace the entire transmission. I'm at around 33k miles now and no issues since, now hold on while I go find some wood to frigging knock on.

[Diver]

Be careful with C&D numbers. They are usually better than everyone else and they adjust their results for temperature.