[BigKutta]

So when driving with the high beams on at night, I've noticed that there is a gap between the top of the low beam, and the bottom of the high beam. Its almost like the high beam is set too high (or low beam too low?), The gap is basically a blue colored hue. Its very apparent because I see it when the high beam comes on.

I'm guessing that the inner lights are the high beam, and I can even see the outline of the angel eyes.

Anyone else seeing this? Not sure if there is a issue with the light or just the level setting.

Thanks guys!

[Thescout13]

Need year of your car and type of lights you have optioned on your car to help.

Regardless sounds normal. Doesn't sound like you have a defective car. I take it from your posts recently that you are new to this car and learning it's quirks? Congrats!

[///Driver]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

I'm guessing that the inner lights are the high beam...

Hey BKutta, I don't even have the car yet, but I think I read somewhere that the inner lights are decorative (non-functioning) on M2C with Adaptive LED headlights. Maybe you can drive up to a wall and test it out?

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

Need year of your car and type of lights you have optioned on your car to help.

Regardless sounds normal. Doesn't sound like you have a defective car. I take it from your posts recently that you are new to this car and learning it's quirks? Congrats!

2020 M2 Comp with Adaptive LEDs.

No this is not normal. I've owned many cars before and there is no gap in light coverage when the high beams go up.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

2020 M2 Comp with Adaptive LEDs.

No this is not normal. I've owned many cars before and there is no gap in light coverage when the high beams go up.

Hey man we are just trying to help you and give you input since, you know, we've had this car a bit longer than you. Have the many cars you've owned had these exact same BMW adaptive lights? The inner lights are non functional. The LEDs aren't set at differing heights in the same way traditional xenons or bulbs are. If you are confident it isn't normal, then maybe take it to a dealer? Just went outside and checked on mine (2020 M2C) and it does exactly what you described (see pictures below, though more obvious in real life that area below blue line is darker). So....sorry I couldn't help, I guess...?

[CSBM5]

I see the same darker blue area as shown in the pic above. When driving it does feel somewhat like a void in that region.

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

Hey man we are just trying to help you and give you input since, you know, we've had this car a bit longer than you. Have the many cars you've owned had these exact same BMW adaptive lights? The inner lights are non functional. The LEDs aren't set at differing heights in the same way traditional xenons or bulbs are. If you are confident it isn't normal, then maybe take it to a dealer? Just went outside and checked on mine (2020 M2C) and it does exactly what you described (see pictures below, though more obvious in real life that area below blue line is darker). So....sorry I couldn't help, I guess...?

No, this is very helpful, thank you! This is exactly what I'm experiencing. While this may be normal for this car, its certainly not normal. I guess my point was that regardless of the type of lighting, we shouldn't have to see a void. I'll take pics against the garage tonight too. Thank you!

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

I see the same darker blue area as shown in the pic above. When driving it does feel somewhat like a void in that region.

Ok. I wonder how many other M2C owners are experiencing this.

[MrMurkle]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

I see the same darker blue area as shown in the pic above. When driving it does feel somewhat like a void in that region.

It's not a void it's just a reflection from jewelled part of light. Look at most new bmw in your rear mirror. You will see the blue refraction of light.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by MrMurkle

It's not a void it's just a reflection from jewelled part of light. Look at most new bmw in your rear mirror. You will see the blue refraction of light.

Notice my wording: " When driving it does feel somewhat like a void" -- I said it felt like a void which it does.

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by MrMurkle

It's not a void it's just a reflection from jewelled part of light. Look at most new bmw in your rear mirror. You will see the blue refraction of light.

Whatever it is, its weird. Its poor design if you ask me, to be able to differentiate the areas covered by the low and high beams.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

Whatever it is, its weird. Its poor design if you ask me, to be able to differentiate the areas covered by the low and high beams.

While I get your frustration, my old ram had a legit difference in height that was roughly 2feet from top of low beam to bottom of high beam when put on a garage door/wall 20 or so feet away. At least these touch.

[skier219]

Normal -- the bluish edge is from the sharp cutoff of the low beam pattern, which maintains high brightness and uniformity right up to the edge (if they didn't cut it off the bluish edge would be gone but you'd blind oncoming drivers). This is a trade off for having full intensity/brightness right up to the edge, and most people would accept this if it means brighter, more uniform lows.

The high beams are more diffuse and cover a wider spread without a cutoff. So when they come on the two are superimposed and the edge of the low beam becomes more apparent. But it's not a gap or a bad thing, it's just the optics of two different light patterns being superimposed.

I remember many years ago being on an early auto motive internet forum when projector headlights started becoming common, and there were a lot of complaints about this. Some people were really disoriented by the sharp cutoff of the low beams and hated them. No amount of discussion could convince them that the new lights were better because they were more uniform and brighter right up to the cutoff, versus old "lamp" style low beams that were only bright in the middle and then faded and got dramatically dimmer away from center.

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by skier219

Normal -- the bluish edge is from the sharp cutoff of the low beam pattern, which maintains high brightness and uniformity right up to the edge (if they didn't cut it off the bluish edge would be gone but you'd blind oncoming drivers). This is a trade off for having full intensity/brightness right up to the edge, and most people would accept this if it means brighter, more uniform lows.

The high beams are more diffuse and cover a wider spread without a cutoff. So when they come on the two are superimposed and the edge of the low beam becomes more apparent. But it's not a gap or a bad thing, it's just the optics of two different light patterns being superimposed.

I remember many years ago being on an early auto motive internet forum when projector headlights started becoming common, and there were a lot of complaints about this. Some people were really disoriented by the sharp cutoff of the low beams and hated them. No amount of discussion could convince them that the new lights were better because they were more uniform and brighter right up to the cutoff, versus old "lamp" style low beams that were only bright in the middle and then faded and got dramatically dimmer away from center.

Well, when you put it like this then this is perfectly ok! I think this makes complete sense!!

[MrMurkle]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

Notice my wording: " When driving it does feel somewhat like a void" -- I said it felt like a void which it does.

You said it feels somewhat like a void. Just repeat that sentence to yourself lololol

[MrMurkle]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

Whatever it is, its weird. Its poor design if you ask me, to be able to differentiate the areas covered by the low and high beams.

That's just normal though. Usually your driving down a road. Not parked up right next to your garage moaning about the fact you can actually see with your eyes where low beam meets full beam. Get a life and enjoy your car

[BigKutta]

Originally Posted by MrMurkle

That's just normal though. Usually your driving down a road. Not parked up right next to your garage moaning about the fact you can actually see with your eyes where low beam meets full beam. Get a life and enjoy your car

I'm enjoying my car, thanks. Any I can see the void (and blue light outline) out in space while I drive, not while against a garage wall. It's weird and not something I've experienced. But the poster above explains this effect pretty well.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

I'm enjoying my car, thanks. Any I can see the void (and blue light outline) out in space while I drive, not while against a garage wall. It's weird and not something I've experienced. But the poster above explains this effect pretty well.

It explains it somewhat. I've been driving with sharp cutoff low beams (which are then also active with high beams) since the 1970s when Cibie, Marchal and Carello became popular in the aftermarket here in the US. The difference between those with their quartz iodine bulbs vs standard sealed beams was astounding (even though they were illegal for road use, technically, for many years). Other drivers always assumed you were flashing your bright lights at them if they were caught under the cutoff since sealed beams had no sharp cutoff.

This is different and far more pronounced. It's not "normal" in terms of high end, high quality lighting. It's just a quirk of this particular LED light design you live with and ignore.

[doughboy]

This makes me even more glad I stuck with non adaptive LED lights.

a) no annoying / disorienting moving beams or slow auto-dip

b) no strange void / gap betweem high low beams.

c) no blue refraction line above low beam cut off.

One less function to malfunction too....

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by doughboy

This makes me even more glad I stuck with non adaptive LED lights.

a) no annoying / disorienting moving beams or slow auto-dip

b) no strange void / gap betweem high low beams.

c) no blue refraction line above low beam cut off.

One less function to malfunction too....

Those are silly reasons to forgo such awesome, future-proof technology.. A,B & C are basically all the same.

To each is own, I guess..

[doughboy]

Yep, A, B & C are all reasons not to have "silly" gimmicky adaptive lights. Had them before, crap.

Awesome, future proof? my ass. This seasons latest must-have more like. And the 2 series / M2C versions are cheap low tech versions at that. Nothing like the premium 3/4/5/6/7 versions which are still poor and slow to react.

And those hex rings? oh dear 😂

At least the non adaptive rings are instantly recognisible BMW lights.

I'm ready to be flamed, but each to their own,

[Flange]

The adaptive leds on my wife’s new Golf R are streets ahead of the ones on my M2.
Far quicker to react, and split the beam in a much more satisfying way.

BMW ones seem pretty low tech in comparison, although I haven’t noticed the issue that the OP has.