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Yeah, I think I could stretch for a used early model 991.2 vs a new M2 Comp. I would need back seats once in a while for my kids. I assumed rear space would be similar between the two.
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But, so far, when it's raining and cold (mid 20F) mine is seriously so much grippier than driving with summer tires, in the rain, in July. I also have the advantage of not really needing to be anywhere at a specific time, so I can wait until the roads are clear if I have to. So if OP has places to be and can't wait... I can't speak for how the M2 handles in the scenario. Didn't really want to drive my M2 in winter, had a 2nd car, but with my experience so far, it seems I'd be pretty capable. At least for what I need it for. M2 beats out the Porsche as a daily though, for two reasons. More trunk space. Being able to fit long things like fishing poles. And front engine is more accessible to work on. As I'll be doing maintenance myself after warranty expires. Spark plugs seem like a PIA in the Porsche. Last edited by Anthony1s; 12-15-2019 at 07:16 PM.. |
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Having both a 991 and an M2C, let me ask, what experience do you want? The M2C has better egress/ingress to the back and you can fit larger humans in the back compared to the 991. if you need back seats, go with the M2. As Anthony1s said, the trunk space on the M2 is superior to the 991, so depending on your needs this is another plus for M2. The M2 is front engined, rear drive. Makes a great hoon mobile, especially if you enjoy throttle on oversteer. You can do this in the 991 too, but it takes more commitment to the throttle and skill with all the rear grip these cars have. The 991 has a better ride, especially if you have sport PASM and can dial the dampers based on roads and mood. It sounds loads better too. The 991 is my wife's daily. The M2C is mine. I chose the M2C over a 997 variant or cayman for the cargo needs (I carry a lot of crap every day), hoon capability, and the modern tech vs an older used Porsche.
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The 911 also has a very different curb appeal, if that matters to you. The M2C is largely under the radar, unless you're an enthusiast, which is something I like. |
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If the prices are the same, I would go with the Porsche. One is a dedicated sports car and the other is a souped up 2 series.
As for the maintenance cost of a 911, annual oil change will cost about $400. 2 year 20,000 mile service will cost about $1,000 (includes oil change) and the 4 year 40,000 mile service (includes oil + spark plug change) will cost about $2,000. If you are handy, you can do most of the maintenance services yourself and save a boat load of money. I would go for the Porsche if you don't need the back seats all that much and the M2 if you do. |
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After a year with my 991.1S/7 (which followed a 997.2 and a 993 and a 964) I found it to lack soul, character and excitement. It's a fabulous car, don't get me wrong, it's just that with every iteration the performance gets better and it loses more charm. I actually replaced it with a 981 Boxster S, which is a better car in every regard, but I know the OP needs a back seat. The other thing not mentioned in the comments (that I noticed) is that the M2 is significantly less expensive to buy.
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For a ride comparison, the M2C rides about the same as the GTS in sport PASM. If i turn the sport dampers off, the GTS is more compliant; less jarring over bumps really. Also keep in mind that the factory pressure on modern 911s is 45psi rear. The comfort setting (which is not recommend for speeds over 140 i think) is 32psi. The car handles and feels much better at this pressure. If you test drive one from a dealer, it will likely be at 45, but check the TPMS. |
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I had ordered a Hockenheim silver M2C back in spring but when the car was held at the local dealer for 3 weeks for the airbag recall, I changed my mind and got this instead.
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Are you looking to buy a new M2C or a used one? Is this going to be a daily? If it's a daily and you can get a new one, I would go with the BMW, if this is a fun weekend car, then go with the Porsche.
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