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That factory is not the same one our cars are built in. All that video says is they test the car up to 150km/h Does not say what rpm or how hard they push the car to get to 150km/h Does not say this procedure eliminates the need for the end user break-in period. Brakes, tires, and suspension need to be broken-in as well to work effectively. Though BMW's break-in period on the engine, some may say is unessesary. It's probably a good blanket statement to live by, just so you don't get into an accident due to parts not functioning 100% optimally yet. https://www.bmw.com/en/automotive-li...a-new-car.html Last edited by Anthony1s; 02-12-2020 at 02:53 PM.. |
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Like I said previously, whatever makes you sleep the best at night. |
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My argument isn't for "what makes me sleep best at night" it's in response to the other person listening to your flawed reasoning to not break-in his car. Last edited by Anthony1s; 02-12-2020 at 03:30 PM.. |
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02-12-2020, 03:23 PM | #48 | |
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It's like being 20 years old at 11:59 on your birthday, yet waiting till midnight to be able to buy a drink. The break-in procedure is simply a CYA by BMW, to keep morons from wrecking their cars. My response or reasoning isn't flawed, it's an opinion. You have yours, I have mine. In case you missed my edit, I too can google specific things to fit my agenda. https://lmgtfy.com/?q=new+engine+hard+break+in Feel free to read any of those results. Don't care either way though. |
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02-12-2020, 03:27 PM | #49 | |
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And yes, your logic is flawed for litterally every single reason I've previously pointed out that you choose to ignore and double down with your "opinions". And now you're building a strawman against me, because not once did I say there is a difference between 1199mi and 1200mi. And using false equivalence arguments as some way to prove your point. Turning 21 to drink is not the same, because there is a law that takes into affect at that point in time. And your "new engine hard break in" argument is irrelevant because we are not speaking about engines here... Last edited by Anthony1s; 02-12-2020 at 03:37 PM.. |
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02-12-2020, 03:45 PM | #50 | |
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I feel being easy the first 100 miles and varying the RPM are important to seat the rings, etc. Plus brakes, tires, etc need a break-in. I then do normal driving (but no full throttle or above 5k) until 500 miles and may then ramp it up until the 1200 mile service, even with mountain drives and occasional hard runs thrown in. No launch control or full throttle 1st gear until after the service. It's worked well for me. I don't think 1200 is a magic number but I adhere to the recommendations for assurance of warranty coverage.
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I think the one thing we can agree upon here, is that there are different opinions on this subject!
Couple of interesting things however 1. This article https://www.bmw.com/en/automotive-li...a-new-car.html is counter to what BMW says in their manuals (article says 4,500 RPM and 1,300 miles, manual says 5,500 RPM and 1,200 miles). It also says "Experts recommend" instead of "BMW recommends" - interesting. Good stuff on the tires, brakes and shocks in there as well. Interestingly - they say changing the oil is no longer required, which I think most "experts" would disagree with. 2. BMW does NOT change the transmission oil any more. I had mine changed in my manual transmission car at like 4,000 miles (at my expense) and the oil analysis I had done said the transmission oil was completely fine (read, Doug, you wasted your money on the trans fluid change). 3. Most experts still say most of the engine break-in happens in the first hundred miles (or less) - so I personally maintain that doing some nice pulls VERY EARLY in your ownership experience is super important. Nothing could be worse than puttering around. In my personal experience, I did this (strong pulls) with my M5 and my 650xi and neither used a drop of oil in the time I had them - whereas lots of people had lots of engine oil consumption issues in those motors. Scientific proof? Far from it - but as others have said, it worked for me so I'll go by what I go by.
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This subject always starts conflict. It doesn't matter if we are talking about motorcycles, cars, boat motors or lawn mowers. Everyone has their own personal experiences and ideas of what is the right way and wrong way of treating a new motor. No one is going to change their minds arguing over it on the internet. Enjoy your car and I will enjoy mine.
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02-13-2020, 03:24 PM | #54 | |
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And nothing to do with the motor...? You directly linked a BMW article where number 4 is almost explicitly about the engine. Point here is, do your own thaang. Beat on it, baby it, who cares, it's YOUR car. As long as you're enjoying it, it doesn't matter. |
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And yea, it's recommended everyone breaks in their coilovers and bushings and brakes before using them. That's what the entire post was about... A quick google search shows that of many people asking how to break in these parts and many guides explaining how to do it. Just because you personally haven't heard of it isn't statistical evidence that you aren't supposed to do it and there aren't good reasons to do it. And again, my argument was never against "do whatever makes you sleep best at night" but correcting your misinterpretation of information because it convinced someone to do something not apparently healthy. Though telling someone "Do whatever makes you feel good" isn't particularly good advice to give someone who is ignorant to the risks involved in that behavior anyway. Would you tell your daughter "Do whatever makes you feel good" if she asks about having unprotected sex with multiple men? Or dating an alcoholic biker? Or letting someone cross the street without looking because it's what they want to do? etc. You keep wanting to go in circles. Keep wanting to bring up points that were already hashed out and resolved with non-arguments, as if they weren't resolved. And making it personal and about me. So at this point, if the hostility continues, the conversation has degraded past the point of me seeing a reason to continue it. Last edited by Anthony1s; 02-13-2020 at 05:18 PM.. |
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I scheduled my 1200 mile service for tomorrow, and asked the advisor what that entailed. She says that she remote read my FOB and is seeing its due for an oil change only ?!?!? Then I told her to check with the service manager and get back to me and she confirmed. So weird...
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EDIT: No tranny stuff. Im a dingus. Last edited by Conissah; 02-20-2020 at 02:19 PM.. |
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Key fob only shows limited info same as idrive. Workshop will follow detailed service guide (hopefully) not what dumbass SA says. SA's can't tell a diff from a potato. They're probably the worst people to ask. Last edited by doughboy; 02-20-2020 at 02:09 PM.. |
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Although I'd do it at 60k but not before. |
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(This is rhetorical btw. I'm done polluting this thread. Good day.) |
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Looking back in this thread, you're the only person I've ever replied to, so I never told OP to do anything. And I also never said people should follow BMW's procedure to a T. |
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Sorry for the hijack. I can't post new threads yet.
My service adviser at the dealership is telling me they have to take the car for a "long drive" to check for problems as part of the 2,000km run in service, which is why it takes a whole day to perform the service. The part of the service can't be skipped. Are they taking me (and my car) for a ride? |
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