[B///MW]

After driving a white M235i with red leather interior & all the options & loving it, the dealer looked into buying me out of my last year of lease on a 2013 535i, which ended up not making sense. Instead, I've been promised their 2nd M2 build allocation. The M235i is a blast to drive... not imagining how great the M2 will be.

[Mark's M]

Originally Posted by Steven1077

I don't think it will be that hard to get an M2 when they start selling them, they will be mass produced much like the M235i, and I'm sure lots would rather have the M3/4, I'm going to wait until the fuss dies down and all the kinks are ironed out then decide if it's worth it

Originally Posted by M Car Chris

Agreed, I can't see it being that difficult to obtain.

Sorry guys, you're both quite incorrect. Those who are getting their names onto a dealer list and are at the top (and I mean first in line, maybe second if the dealership is a high volume M seller) are about the only ones who won't find it "difficult to obtain" an M2. "Mass produced" will take on a bit of a different meaning with this car and they'll not be plentiful. Just a friendly head's up.

[seanq]

Originally Posted by Mark's M

Sorry guys, you're both quite incorrect. Those who are getting their names onto a dealer list and are at the top (and I mean first in line, maybe second if the dealership is a high volume M seller) are about the only ones who won't find it "difficult to obtain" an M2. "Mass produced" will take on a bit of a different meaning with this car and they'll not be plentiful. Just a friendly head's up.

Hi Mark, I wonder what's your source? And thanks for the heads up.
One more thing, do you have any idea if the M2 and M2 CSL will be out both at the same time.
Per my understanding M2 is going to be mass produced with some sort of artificial cap imposed by BMW to keep its specialness, in the meanwhile M2 CSL is going to get a hard cap similar to 1M.

[Mark's M]

Originally Posted by seanq

Hi Mark, I wonder what's your source? And thanks for the heads up.
One more thing, do you have any idea if the M2 and M2 CSL will be out both at the same time.
Per my understanding M2 is going to be mass produced with some sort of artificial cap imposed by BMW to keep its specialness, in the meanwhile M2 CSL is going to get a hard cap similar to 1M.

Sorry Sean there's little info out there re the CSL so it's anyone's guess. The M2 "cap" that's been penned by most also has to do with capacity at Leipzig when production starts but you're correct that its numbers will keep it special for quite some time.

[Steven1077]

Originally Posted by Mark's M

Sorry guys, you're both quite incorrect. Those who are getting their names onto a dealer list and are at the top (and I mean first in line, maybe second if the dealership is a high volume M seller) are about the only ones who won't find it "difficult to obtain" an M2. "Mass produced" will take on a bit of a different meaning with this car and they'll not be plentiful. Just a friendly head's up.

Maybe over there, in the UK it's pretty easy to get a M car of any kind new even with a fair discount, I could certainly get an M3/4 tomorrow if I wanted one and see no reason why the M2 will be different, the M2 doesn't even sound like it's going to be a full on M car to me, just an uprated M235i, also I'm related to one of the managers at my local dealers

[buumer]

Is the M3/M4 ED coming out of dealer allocations? And for that matter, is the M235i still part of the allocations?

[W///]

Originally Posted by Steven1077

Maybe over there, in the UK it's pretty easy to get a M car of any kind new even with a fair discount, I could certainly get an M3/4 tomorrow if I wanted one and see no reason why the M2 will be different, the M2 doesn't even sound like it's going to be a full on M car to me, just an uprated M235i, also I'm related to one of the managers at my local dealers

Let's look at it this way. Within a 300 mile radius of my location, there are a total of 13 M235i coupes available on Autotrader (new cars only).

Now if you changed that to an M4 Coupe, there are 50 available.

Am I saying that the M2 will be a limited car like the 1M? It better not be! Is it going to be as easy as pie to get one, at the very least in the first year? I don't think so either.

Hell, I've literally seen only a handful of 2 series out at dealerships. I'd say the 2er in general is a pretty decently rare car (relative to other BMW models that is). I have 0 doubt that the M2 will be more difficult to get than an M3/4 IMHO.

[///Mobbin]

Originally Posted by W///

Let's look at it this way. Within a 300 mile radius of my location, there are a total of 13 M235i coupes available on Autotrader (new cars only).

Now if you changed that to an M4 Coupe, there are 50 available.

Am I saying that the M2 will be a limited car like the 1M? It better not be! Is it going to be as easy as pie to get one, at the very least in the first year? I don't think so either.

Hell, I've literally seen only a handful of 2 series out at dealerships. I'd say the 2er in general is a pretty decently rare car (relative to other BMW models that is). I have 0 doubt that the M2 will be more difficult to get than an M3/4 IMHO.

More anecdotal evidence. The dealer I am getting my M2 from has 5+ M4's right now and only 1 m235i. And I've seen similar results when searching Autotrader or CarGuru's in my area. So I generally agree, the 2er in general is a lower volume car, which means the m2 might be a little more niche than the M3/M4. I don't think everyone should run out and place deposits or anything but if you think you might want a car near launch, why not at least try and find somewhere that will do a fully refundable deposit.

[W///]

Originally Posted by ///Mobbin

More anecdotal evidence. The dealer I am getting my M2 from has 5+ M4's right now and only 1 m235i. And I've seen similar results when searching Autotrader or CarGuru's in my area. So I generally agree, the 2er in general is a lower volume car, which means the m2 might be a little more niche than the M3/M4. I don't think everyone should run out and place deposits or anything but if you think you might want a car near launch, why not at least try and find somewhere that will do a fully refundable deposit.

Yup, exact. I think my dealer has had a total of 2 M235i and 1 228i (not counting verts).

If you do the same search, there are 36 228i coupes FS within 300 miles, still less than the M4. I don't see how we'd see more M2 than the 228i or the M235i.

[rudypMD]

i went to my dealer this Sunday to order an M235i test drove and really liked the car, maybe a little softer than what i was expecting, that made me reconsider and wait for the M2, reserved a spot on the dealers allocations. My SA told me that recently they had a meeting where information on the M2 was given, and that they are looking at a model not limited as in a limited edition but hard to get, he told me that allocations compared to the M4 are going to be 8 to 1.

[W///]

Originally Posted by rudypMD

i went to my dealer this Sunday to order an M235i test drove and really liked the car, maybe a little softer than what i was expecting, that made me reconsider and wait for the M2, reserved a spot on the dealers allocations. My SA told me that recently they had a meeting where information on the M2 was given, and that they are looking at a model not limited as in a limited edition but hard to get, he told me that allocations compared to the M4 are going to be 8 to 1.

That doesn't sound like it's something completely unrealistic. 8-1 vs the M4 is a small percentage, but should still be enough cars to go around. Just don't think you should expect many dealerships to have multiple M2's sitting around in the showroom at least the first year IMO.

[Steven1077]

Originally Posted by W///

Let's look at it this way. Within a 300 mile radius of my location, there are a total of 13 M235i coupes available on Autotrader (new cars only).

Now if you changed that to an M4 Coupe, there are 50 available.

Am I saying that the M2 will be a limited car like the 1M? It better not be! Is it going to be as easy as pie to get one, at the very least in the first year? I don't think so either.

Hell, I've literally seen only a handful of 2 series out at dealerships. I'd say the 2er in general is a pretty decently rare car (relative to other BMW models that is). I have 0 doubt that the M2 will be more difficult to get than an M3/4 IMHO.

That just goes to show the 2 series is not a very popular car, doesn’t make it hard to buy one from BMW, so maybe the M2 will not be very popular either, if I had the room I'd rather have an M4, I'm only looking at the M2 as it’s smaller, not better

[W///]

Originally Posted by Steven1077

That just goes to show the 2 series is not a very popular car, doesn’t make it hard to buy one from BMW, so maybe the M2 will not be very popular either, if I had the room I'd rather have an M4, I'm only looking at the M2 as it’s smaller, not better

Right, exactly. I'm not saying it's going to be impossible to find an M2 allocation somewhere, but that doesn't mean it's going to be as easy as an M3 or M4 to get either.

I'm in the camp that doesn't think it will be limited production per se, just more difficult to find than normal. Especially year 1.

[Die ///M Rakete]

Originally Posted by W///

Right, exactly. I'm not saying it's going to be impossible to find an M2 allocation somewhere, but that doesn't mean it's going to be as easy as an M3 or M4 to get either.

Right now it's almost twice as difficult to get your hands on an M3 than it is on an M4/M4 convertible. The supply just isn't out there.

[JustChris]

Hmm well launch cars are way too soon for me anyway with the M4 just 4 months old right now. I will wait out the first year for sure, plus ai actually want to know the full specs etc.

[proflex957]

Order a m235i in beginning of Feb. Damaged in transit to rear quarter panel. Didn't accept the car. Considered waiting for M2. Decided to buy similar optioned m235i.

Will trade for M2 on second year of production after the fuel pump is fixed.....

[Mark's M]

Originally Posted by rudypMD

i went to my dealer this Sunday to order an M235i test drove and really liked the car, maybe a little softer than what i was expecting, that made me reconsider and wait for the M2, reserved a spot on the dealers allocations. My SA told me that recently they had a meeting where information on the M2 was given, and that they are looking at a model not limited as in a limited edition but hard to get, he told me that allocations compared to the M4 are going to be 8 to 1.

Finally. Someone (your SA) who knows what they're talking about.

[UpNcOmINg!]

Honestly, here in South Africa, the m235i is quite a lot harder to get than even the ///Ms. We can walk in and buy an ///M3/4 but have to spec and wait a few months for an m235i.
Don't want to take that chance with the ///M2.
Rather just be on the allocations and hopefully get the car

[igom3]

Originally Posted by seanq

Hi Mark, I wonder what's your source? And thanks for the heads up.
One more thing, do you have any idea if the M2 and M2 CSL will be out both at the same time.
Per my understanding M2 is going to be mass produced with some sort of artificial cap imposed by BMW to keep its specialness, in the meanwhile M2 CSL is going to get a hard cap similar to 1M.

I'm #1 on the list

[Steven1077]

Originally Posted by UpNcOmINg!

Honestly, here in South Africa, the m235i is quite a lot harder to get than even the ///Ms. We can walk in and buy an ///M3/4 but have to spec and wait a few months for an m235i.
Don't want to take that chance with the ///M2.
Rather just be on the allocations and hopefully get the car

Very odd, I can get an M235i built in about 4 weeks if I want one, I guess it all depends on what continent you're on

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Die ///M Rakete

That being said, regardless of what the M2 turns out to be, if you're happy with your M235i then that's all that matters. It's certainly a great car.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-term-tests/bmw/bmw-m235i-2015-long-term-test-review/