[AlpsRider]

I believe that since the M2C is mechanically the same as the M2CS except suspension that the M2C will hold a high resale value. Except for the pristine vacuum wrapped collector type cars, I believe that over time the M2C and M2CS prices will migrate closer together. That's when the boy racer types start grabbing them up.

[Nettles]

Originally Posted by akkando

I tried to buy one of these used cars last week and offering less than they were asking. They were not interested and could do nothing for me other than a couple hundred bucks off. Called back yesterday and car was sold. It was there about a week.

Originally Posted by boss2k

So you guys are telling me dealer will buy 2020 M2C in mid 50s and make 2-3 grand profit and they retail for 57-58k when you can order a brand new car exact to your specs and buy it for 56-57k with discount. Which fool will buy an used car at new car price? market for used car is very hot and unreal i understand but these prices are not possible

akkando: don't doubt it one bit, but see boss2k's response. It is a very "strange" financial decision to buy this car in that price range. I would even argue anything $50k+ wouldn't be a good decision versus just buying new. If that delta really entices you I would say you can't afford the car in the first place (just like me). Again this isn't to insult anyone who owns this car (I want one desperately). The point is the used value of this car makes no logical sense.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Nettles

akkando: don't doubt it one bit, but see boss2k's response. It is a very "strange" financial decision to buy this car in that price range. I would even argue anything $50k+ wouldn't be a good decision versus just buying new. If that delta really entices you I would say you can't afford the car in the first place (just like me). Again this isn't to insult anyone who owns this car (I want one desperately). The point is the used value of this car makes no logical sense.

I'm more interested in used because sometimes they come with mods that save me money if I am going to do those mods anyway and more importantly you can't tune a new m2c. The delta in performance between an m2 and a base m2c is not worth the cost of upgrading without a tune.

I would assume for most buyers new makes the most sense.

[swampfox94]

the end of f87 production to the g87 delivery is gonna be an interesting time for resale on m2s

[mrussell]

Originally Posted by swampfox94

the end of f87 production to the g87 delivery is gonna be an interesting time for resale on m2s

I agree as for all practical purposes it is almost impossible to get a new one at this time, especially if you can’t find one in stock. That is why the new versus used is no longer going to be applicable.

[mrussell]

Just out of curiosity looked at Car Gurus this morning. Most 2019’s are asking between about $55,000 to $57,000. 2020 model years are in the $56,000 to over $60,000 price range. It almost seems like model year has little effect on the price, maybe because there is virtually no differences between them.

[JustinHEMI]

Had local dealer check out my car, WITH the items in the sig, they said 51K and "we'd have one of the most expensive used M2C's on the market."

It was just a data gathering point for this thread AND because I wanted to look over the new M4 in person.

[Bumpinjeep]

As a quick follow up. Don't let dealers tell you that they're giving you a deal by trading it in for $50K. They're not doing anyone a favor but themselves.

[ddnmkun]

Trade in saves tax on the new car(when getting a more expensive one. So in WA even they priced 10% below private party, still a sweet deal.

[ddnmkun]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

As a quick follow up. Don't let dealers tell you that they're giving you a deal by trading it in for $50K. They're not doing anyone a favor but themselves.

10% make sense for you in WA, that’s 10% savings towards the new car. Also private party is a huge pain!

[Davil]

Trade in is all about the changeover. The trade in value is irrelevant. Changeover is the key number.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by ddnmkun

Trade in saves tax on the new car(when getting a more expensive one. So in WA even they priced 10% below private party, still a sweet deal.

Right, but in that scenario you're not really saving 10% when you do the trade in. You're paying taxes on the difference the trade in value and the sales cost of the car. I 100% agree with you that trading a car in has benefits in WA state. I'm just pointing out that you should get at least $54K+ on a trade in for a 2020 M2C.

[swampfox94]

Just pulled some KBB numbers out of curiosity. Came back as 59-63k for private party and 55-58 for a trade. Doubt that's you would actually get considering thats how much I paid for mine new

[MMMBRAP]

Now is not the time to sell. You'd have to wait until F87's are completely out of production and then add a couple more years to that.

With the G8X most likely going more digital (no more analog instrument cluster, more focus on tech connectivity and infotainment options), getting physically bigger and bloated and soft, I imagine our M2C's will hold value considerably better in 3-5 years.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by MMMBRAP

Now is not the time to sell. You'd have to wait until F87's are completely out of production and then add a couple more years to that.

With the G8X most likely going more digital (no more analog instrument cluster, more focus on tech connectivity and infotainment options), getting physically bigger and bloated and soft, I imagine our M2C's will hold value considerably better in 3-5 years.

Man, I hope it's not going to get fatter and softer. I enjoy this little car, even though its not really that little anymore. I would hope that the G87 is the same size and weight but has more power and more individual options. That would be my pie in the sky.

[OperationSunset]

Originally Posted by boss2k

You will not get that trade in value physically at a dealer , trust me because i just traded in my brand new 21 M2C with 2400 miles.

I was quoted 54k for my 21 M2C with 12k miles in the Bay Area. I decided to keep it as the G82 felt too large...but I do want the tech.

Edit: BMW of Mountain View offered me 47.5 for a 2021 M2C.......LOL.

[AmooManiak]

Best way is to go on Autotrader or a similar site, and see what they are selling for. Then take about 10% off, as that's around the markup you'll see the dealers will list them for compared to the trade in value.

[ddnmkun]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Right, but in that scenario you're not really saving 10% when you do the trade in. You're paying taxes on the difference the trade in value and the sales cost of the car. I 100% agree with you that trading a car in has benefits in WA state. I'm just pointing out that you should get at least $54K+ on a trade in for a 2020 M2C.

Oh got ya! My bad I thought they were already offering $54k

[yamsta]

Originally Posted by akkando

I'm more interested in used because sometimes they come with mods that save me money if I am going to do those mods anyway and more importantly you can't tune a new m2c. The delta in performance between an m2 and a base m2c is not worth the cost of upgrading without a tune.

I would assume for most buyers new makes the most sense.

I'm looking to potentially purchase an M2C -- can you please elaborate on "you can't tune a new m2c"?

[DanG]

Originally Posted by yamsta

I'm looking to potentially purchase an M2C -- can you please elaborate on "you can't tune a new m2c"?

The ECU is locked on the new BMWs.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by yamsta

I'm looking to potentially purchase an M2C -- can you please elaborate on "you can't tune a new m2c"?

You can tune early build 2019 M2Cs but that's it. If you're looking to make a crazy build, I would suggest finding those models.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by yamsta

I'm looking to potentially purchase an M2C -- can you please elaborate on "you can't tune a new m2c"?

Cars starting June 2020 some cars started showing up with hardware that hasn't been hacked yet. After august I think every car had this new hardware. Maybe someday it will get hacked so the engines can be tuned. You could still use a piggyback if you want.