[MrLizzzard]

Hi guys - really struggling with this aim dash, connected to canbus but cant get

engine warning light
fuel level (can get fuel warning light)
oil pressure

Can anyone help please?

Tried the obd port but literally just get rev counter and gear position, nothing else.

[ebisu8]

Which AIM dash specifically?

[MrLizzzard]

Originally Posted by ebisu8

Which AIM dash specifically?

7" Strada
https://www.aim-sportline.com/en/pro...rada/index.htm

Its essentially the same one they use in the m2cs racing apparently... not that - that helps at the moment.

Im guessing all the stuff im missing is on a different can wire potentially??

[ebisu8]

Originally Posted by MrLizzzard

7" Strada
https://www.aim-sportline.com/en/pro...rada/index.htm

Its essentially the same one they use in the m2cs racing apparently... not that - that helps at the moment.

Im guessing all the stuff im missing is on a different can wire potentially??

Oh awesome, I have the OEM M2CS racing dash surround and will be going this route as well. I was more curious to know which one you got but can't actually help you out right now. Have you reached out to AIM for assistance?

Dom

[MrLizzzard]

Originally Posted by ebisu8

Oh awesome, I have the OEM M2CS racing dash surround and will be going this route as well. I was more curious to know which one you got but can't actually help you out right now. Have you reached out to AIM for assistance?

Dom

Hey Dom - I also have the surround, AIM are notoriously bad for support, i have reached out but they basically said look at the website - which just says connect to supported ECU. Im going to see the guys doing the work tomorrow, they have got some info displaying but not some essential stuff yet.

You can buy the actual dash from BMW but it doesnt come with any ECU files loaded (i assume because bmw motorsport dont want their specific settings in public domain)

Ill let you know how it goes!

[NISFAN]

Does the AIM manual and ECU compatibility guide say you can get those values via CAN?

[ebisu8]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

Does the AIM manual and ECU compatibility guide say you can get those values via CAN?

Great point. Per the pdf HERE it doesn't show any of those values.

MrLizzzard Maybe there might be some additional options in Race Studio 3 software like this?

[MrLizzzard]

Originally Posted by ebisu8

Great point. Per the pdf HERE it doesn't show any of those values.

MrLizzzard Maybe there might be some additional options in Race Studio 3 software like this?

The aim site does say it supports the ecu and the data channels but your right it might need a custom one setup but it doesn't seem to see the data at all.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by MrLizzzard

The aim site does say it supports the ecu and the data channels but your right it might need a custom one setup but it doesn't seem to see the data at all.

You should have the following list available in RS3.

Have you connected to the CAN BUS in the FEM? Blue and blu/red wires? If not how have you connected it?

Provided you've done the above, you do need to configure the dash using RS3. I've had it that it didn't connect right due to not flashing the dash correctly.

[MrLizzzard]

Really surprised oil pressure isnt listed there... but we arnt getting fuel - thanks for that list and ill have a check on where the guys took the wires from - is there only 1 set of CAN in the car do you know? Or is it just the ring doesnt send all signals to all the loom...

as you can tell im running out of talent!

[ebisu8]

Did you get street or race version? Also, I thought that there is an IVA version for the EU folks too. Also to my knowledge there are 4 wires in the FEM area. One question, do you still have your OEM cluster plugged in and tucked away or did you remove it completely and plan to run ONLY the AIM MXG itself?

[MrLizzzard]

Originally Posted by ebisu8

Did you get street or race version? Also, I thought that there is an IVA version for the EU folks too. Also to my knowledge there are 4 wires in the FEM area. One question, do you still have your OEM cluster plugged in and tucked away or did you remove it completely and plan to run ONLY the AIM MXG itself?

standard dash has been removed - i do have the IVA version with the road signals but Aim said its the same as the race version (just doesnt have the same log store capability, which i can add later apparently)

It does have the gps module plugged in as well.

[ebisu8]

Originally Posted by MrLizzzard

standard dash has been removed - i do have the IVA version with the road signals but Aim said its the same as the race version (just doesnt have the same log store capability, which i can add later apparently)

It does have the gps module plugged in as well.

That is great news, does everything work besides the ones you mentioned above? iDrive and everything else?

Dom

[MrLizzzard]

Originally Posted by ebisu8

That is great news, does everything work besides the ones you mentioned above? iDrive and everything else?

Dom

Hey Dom - so the good news

Dash is in - looks really professional
rev counter
speed
batt volt
oil temp
coolant temp
Shift lights all programmed
GPS works (even beneath the dash in a metal unit...)
indicators work
high beam works

MDM mode works - we programmed that whilst i was there - bit of a faff - it didnt like it being pressed on the TC button but worked via pressing the M2 button on the wheel... :S

Fuel warning lamp is programmed but ECU isnt sending the data - we think cause there is more fuel in the tank for the warning lamp to come on - so this might actually work

Bad news

Cant access the buttons on the side of the dash - not the end of the world as you program it from a laptop - the idea will be to have a track dash and a road orientated dash i think.

Cant get the damn fuel level - i can see Fuel km and fuel used but neither channel is getting any data at all...

Cant find oil pressure - this isnt something that is sent to the dash anyway i suspect it will only send any data on this if falls below a value and then to the idrive unit and throw an error...

Gear indicator doesnt work (think it might in an auto car tho)

Next steps - the guys im using seem confident they can do this the old fashioned way on a Mv analogue sensor but are going to try and see if they can find it via a wire first

ill upload some pics when i get the car back - any questions let me know

Also - idrive completely fine, no affect at all

[ebisu8]

Amazing work friend. I look forward to seeing it all, hopefully you can get some kinks worked out and perhaps if someone else has some actual hands on experience, they could lend a hand. This is great though, my goal was to fully remove the oem cluster and just run this dash, happy that it does work and that iDrive is functional as well.

I wonder though, if you did have the oem cluster plugged in and tucked down in the dash, would the missing data then actually work? Might be good to try that out to see if it is the missing link between the two. Hope to get mine and put it in as well, glad someone else is doing this too.

[MrLizzzard]

Originally Posted by ebisu8

Amazing work friend. I look forward to seeing it all, hopefully you can get some kinks worked out and perhaps if someone else has some actual hands on experience, they could lend a hand. This is great though, my goal was to fully remove the oem cluster and just run this dash, happy that it does work and that iDrive is functional as well.

I wonder though, if you did have the oem cluster plugged in and tucked down in the dash, would the missing data then actually work? Might be good to try that out to see if it is the missing link between the two. Hope to get mine and put it in as well, glad someone else is doing this too.

that is an interesting question, the guy doing the wiring was saying it has to be sending the data to the dash in some way right.

However to the dash there are 2 cables - canbus/normal connector and a fibreoptic looking thing! wonder if that info is on the other side.

spoke to Aim who said their list in the pdf (attached above) - is what they would expect to get from ecu/can, not what they have tested as working, so its a suggestion, not fact unfortunately...

[NISFAN]

Unfortunately I don't think AIM build a product to suit all users. No doubt they work with race teams initially that have paid for their own level of integration for motorsport use. Once done, AIM have those parameters mapped and calibrated, but nothing else.

I have an older AIM unit, if I plug it into BMW ECU CAN I get one set of parameters. If I instead plug it into OBD2 I get another set of parameters. By the way, mine reads fuel level in litres if I use OBD2, but won't using engine CAN. It's a shame the unit won't use both sources at the same time.

When I asked AIM about adding the fuel, ride height sensors, oil pressure, parameters, they said they could map anything out for me……..at my cost. I basically would have had to employ their specialist to map the parameters I wanted. Prices that make your eyes water.

[MrLizzzard]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

Unfortunately I don't think AIM build a product to suit all users. No doubt they work with race teams initially that have paid for their own level of integration for motorsport use. Once done, AIM have those parameters mapped and calibrated, but nothing else.

I have an older AIM unit, if I plug it into BMW ECU CAN I get one set of parameters. If I instead plug it into OBD2 I get another set of parameters. By the way, mine reads fuel level in litres if I use OBD2, but won't using engine CAN. It's a shame the unit won't use both sources at the same time.

When I asked AIM about adding the fuel, ride height sensors, oil pressure, parameters, they said they could map anything out for me……..at my cost. I basically would have had to employ their specialist to map the parameters I wanted. Prices that make your eyes water.

yep that doesn't surprise me - same reason that BMW will sell you the dash with literally no software in it!

i can see some of this data via the obd - like you say its so frustrating!

[ebisu8]

Originally Posted by MrLizzzard

that is an interesting question, the guy doing the wiring was saying it has to be sending the data to the dash in some way right.

However to the dash there are 2 cables - canbus/normal connector and a fibreoptic looking thing! wonder if that info is on the other side.

spoke to Aim who said their list in the pdf (attached above) - is what they would expect to get from ecu/can, not what they have tested as working, so its a suggestion, not fact unfortunately...

When I spoke with the AIM folks here in the US, they said that if there is an AIM location close by or within driving distance, they are able to get everything customized to the car that you need. I fully understood that this thing isn't going to be a perfect/direct replacement and expect it to be OEM unless I have a CSRacing car which I don't and don't care to have because whats the fun in that?

I still look forward to future pics and updates.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by MrLizzzard

yep that doesn't surprise me - same reason that BMW will sell you the dash with literally no software in it!

i can see some of this data via the obd - like you say its so frustrating!

It could be that the ECU doesn't need to know about fuel tank level, only low fuel warning and therefore it isn't shared in the ECU data set? I believe these cars have many types of BUS networks, Flexray, CAN, LIN, etc with very specific functions, so I guess as the AIM only connects to ECU or OBD, it is limited to the information set that are live in those protocols. :

[MrLizzzard]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

It could be that the ECU doesn't need to know about fuel tank level, only low fuel warning and therefore it isn't shared in the ECU data set? I believe these cars have many types of BUS networks, Flexray, CAN, LIN, etc with very specific functions, so I guess as the AIM only connects to ECU or OBD, it is limited to the information set that are live in those protocols. :

i think that's exactly it to be honest, just annoying

How does the ak motion display manage to get the oil pressure i wonder - thinking about using that as well if it solves one of the issues.

[MrLizzzard]

someone has just advised me that the fuel level is REM only - gonna give that a go