[m20e3087]

Which settings do I needed change to get GTS roar at start up? Currently running stock CS map.

[Juicehead]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

Which settings do I needed change to get GTS roar at start up? Currently running stock CS map.

I asked about this, this feature is on by default.

[CSL335i]

I have flashed my eu spec M2 Comp with Bootmod3.
OTS map was: stage 0+ (M4 CS) stock performance calibration map.
Changes in maps: everything oem, except OPF, which i turned OFF.

After flashing Bootmod3 software asked me to do the online coding, so i did it as well.
Symptoms:

- after ignition on (and even during engine start) DSC Off appears under RPM gauge behind the "P" park symbol. In factory M2 comp software that was not the case. DSC Off disappeared once i rolled the car. Interesting. Is it normal?

- I got 201101 DME, tamper protection, recognized program or data manipulation error code, which i could not delete with BM3. Is it normal?

I have already open a ticket to BM3 support, waiting for their reply as well.

My question related to Stage 0+ (M4 CS) M4 CS stock performance calibration map: is this an OEM map or a just an OEM like calibration?
Because in the past, if i remember well, there was M3/M4 CS OEM map as well. Maybe renamed?

Please chime in.

Laszlo

[doughboy]

Csl335i,

Keep us informed, I'm looking to do CS map soon..

[nomoracin]

I'm bored at work today (kind of empty here today due to the holiday)...can we talk about how GREAT the stage 1 tune is?

I'm having so much fun with it, although, I think I need wider tires now as there's so much power. haha

[gmazet]

I'm subscribed in hopes that this is where the announcement "hey we've overcome the march 2019 code update" will be..

otherwise might be piggy back for me

[MRosth]

Originally Posted by gmazet

I'm subscribed in hopes that this is where the announcement "hey we've overcome the march 2019 code update" will be..

otherwise might be piggy back for me

Im in the same boat

[mshea397]

I'm in the same boat (waiting for my paid for 2020 to get cleared from stop sale for the airbag issue) and was going to do BM3 + downpipes. I had JB4 with my M4 and thought it was great, but the BM3 approach seems so much better and easier, so i sure hope they get a solve.

[gmazet]

Originally Posted by mshea397

I'm in the same boat (waiting for my paid for 2020 to get cleared from stop sale for the airbag issue) and was going to do BM3 + downpipes. I had JB4 with my M4 and thought it was great, but the BM3 approach seems so much better and easier, so i sure hope they get a solve.

hope you get it soon! I'm waiting on production schedule (week 23).

i love the idea of the BM3, but seems BMW doesn't

[brad65ford]

Originally Posted by MRosth

Im in the same boat

same

[bmwfan1234]

Does anyone know if the ecutek software will be able to unlock the dme via obd? It's £990 from Litchfield but i'm tired of waiting.

[Poochie]

So far, no one has broken new ECU patch.. Basically when you try to unlock you DME, it's bounces back the request and say it can't identify the VIN. This was confirm with a recent flash attempt.

Smart BMW came up with a patch; it's was way too easy to extract power, which it opens them up for potential warranty repairs, so this is legal striking back..

But as long as everything is electronic, someone will find a way to circumvent this latest firewall. Time...

[Juicehead]

Originally Posted by Poochie

So far, no one has broken new ECU patch.. Basically when you try to unlock you DME, it's bounces back the request and say it can't identify the VIN. This was confirm with a recent flash attempt.

Smart BMW came up with a patch; it's was way too easy to extract power, which it opens them up for potential warranty repairs, so this is legal striking back..

But as long as everything is electronic, someone will find a way to circumvent this latest firewall. Time...

The more I think about BMW doing this, it really grinds my gears. I purchased this vehicle, it is mine. I should be able to do with it what I please. I understand that if I myself break something, it is my fault and it won't be covered under warranty.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Poochie

So far, no one has broken new ECU patch.. Basically when you try to unlock you DME, it's bounces back the request and say it can't identify the VIN. This was confirm with a recent flash attempt.

Smart BMW came up with a patch; it's was way too easy to extract power, which it opens them up for potential warranty repairs, so this is legal striking back..

But as long as everything is electronic, someone will find a way to circumvent this latest firewall. Time...

I know this is not their thread but I believe BPMSport has a working solution which still allows flashing via OBD. They already gave details on which versions they support in their thread (link) but maybe they will comment on it here as well.

[gmazet]

Originally Posted by Juicehead

The more I think about BMW doing this, it really grinds my gears. I purchased this vehicle, it is mine. I should be able to do with it what I please. I understand that if I myself break something, it is my fault and it won't be covered under warranty.

plus how can the sell tiers of vehicles when you can just code them to all be around the same power output? not just warranty, but their sales also probably bitching that 65K M2C are running 130K GTS power levels

[cooler2442]

BMW probably did it for reasons like this, where they found the Dinan tune caused the engine to blow and I assume more aggressive tunes like the Bootmod could be even worse;

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ighlight=dinan

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by cooler2442

BMW probably did it for reasons like this, where they found the Dinan tune caused the engine to blow and I assume more aggressive tunes like the Bootmod could be even worse;

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...ighlight=dinan

I don't it has anything to do with Dinan, per se.. Dinan takes on their own risk, so no problem with BMW in working with them.

Its just when a company makes a product with X amount of power and a set warranty to match, they take on a certain amount of calculated risk.

When said consumer goes and makes modification to increase the set power and thus, in turn, increase the risk of failure, a company sees this a form of pilferage, so they put up road blocks to minimize their lost profile.

If you purchase the vehicle and never tune it, it doesn't even matter that there's a firewall in the ECU, Its when you try to go beyond that, you get bounced back.

[pz619]

Originally Posted by Juicehead

The more I think about BMW doing this, it really grinds my gears. I purchased this vehicle, it is mine. I should be able to do with it what I please. I understand that if I myself break something, it is my fault and it won't be covered under warranty.

They are selling the product, but not the source code. That's similar to having an iphone but requiring that apple release the code so you can modify however you want. I get where you are going, but it just isn't reality.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by pz619

They are selling the product, but not the source code. That's similar to having an iphone but requiring that apple release the code so you can modify however you want. I get where you are going, but it just isn't reality.

This. Technically every tune or code manipulation is a derivative work under copyright. Currently it's a costly endeavor to go after every tuner, that's why the car lobby is trying to amend the copyright law to make a direct claim for these types of manipulations to the ECU.

[rjtoudouze]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

This. Technically every tune or code manipulation is a derivative work under copyright. Currently it's a costly endeavor to go after every tuner, that's why the car lobby is trying to amend the copyright law to make a direct claim for these types of manipulations to the ECU.

Sad that people believe this. You have rights as a consumer and do not have to allow the seller to change your product after the sale. Tuning a car is not breaking any copyright. That said, you risk your warranty if you tune. That is why I am going with Carbahn and the matching warranty.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by rjtoudouze

Sad that people believe this. You have rights as a consumer and do not have to allow the seller to change your product after the sale. Tuning a car is not breaking any copyright. That said, you risk your warranty if you tune. That is why I am going with Carbahn and the matching warranty.

What? Umm... pretty sure I'm an attorney that works in this space and know what I'm talking about. I'm not just "people". Without making this a treatise on the DMCA, copyright law, and the CO's limited exemptions, technically, the doctrine of exhaustion applies to a physical product but not source/object code. You can modify the shit out of your car, but when you manipulate or create a modified set of the code that operates the computers, you are creating a derivative work. That modification also violates the EULA (license agreement) that comes with the software on your car. Your "rights" as a consumer don't mean shit in that context.

You're probably one of those people that thinks you "own" that song or movie you bought and downloaded from iTunes. News flash, you don't. You just have a license to it.

But let me give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you think my position is that I wouldn't code or tune. It's not. I want to and I do on all my cars. Doesn't mean it technically isn't violating someone else's IP. Just like I walk through my neighbors yard to get to the park by my house. Technically I'm trespassing, doesn't mean I'm not going to do it. Just because BMW and my neighbor don't come after me in court, doesn't mean they don't technically have a right to.

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by cntzl

I know this is not their thread but I believe BPMSport has a working solution which still allows flashing via OBD. They already gave details on which versions they support in their thread (link) but maybe they will comment on it here as well.

No issues to date, have flashed many M2 comp worldwide. It took other platforms months to OBD flash after we first offered it back in Dec 2018, so it's a matter of time before these platforms follow in our footsteps again.