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      07-11-2017, 04:04 PM   #23
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If it is flow tested and compared to a flow test on the stock one, and it outperforms then I am in.
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      07-11-2017, 04:25 PM   #24
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I'm going to reply to the PM here after some thought, not to doubt this product but to generate discussion on it.

Yes, more air can fill a larger space. That does not mean it will flow better. Turbulence is a major factor. If the turbo reacts negatively to a change in turbulence than you won't make anything. Flow testing should be done to determine this. Those accordions are not just to make it flexible. They also increase volume and help reduce collapsing.
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Are there any performance gains to be expected?
+ Tune + Yes shown to be better due to our restrictive Inlet its the same size as the PWG turbos (early year N55 model cars).
This is a must upgrade for those upgrading Turbo since it will restrict a lot power, so in stock EWG turbo (like us) it will flow better and there should be either better powerband or/and gains together.

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Without having any data from m own product, using the pure inlet, on a tuned vehicle tuners have extracted up to 40 extra hp. In addition you can expect quicker spool and reduced PWM/duty cycle. This hose would also remove all obstructions such as the acordian piece at the top of the pipe and the dimples in the pipe which would increase air flow.
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If it is flow tested and compared to a flow test on the stock one, and it outperforms then I am in.
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I'm going to reply to the PM here after some thought, not to doubt this product but to generate discussion on it.

Yes, more air can fill a larger space. That does not mean it will flow better. Turbulence is a major factor. If the turbo reacts negatively to a change in turbulence than you won't make anything. Flow testing should be done to determine this. Those accordions are not just to make it flexible. They also increase volume and help reduce collapsing.
I'll be down to partake on flow testing if needed for this project.

PWG cars might not show the same gain as EWG cars
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I have been in the works of designing an upgraded turbo inlet pipe for our cars. This would be a full pipe replacement using machined fittings and silicon hose to replace the current plastic tube. It would also include a significantly larger opening at the turbo end and be completely smooth, removing the accordion section and dimples found in the oem pipe. I have already spent a bit of time and money to work out the logistics and now I need to find out if there is a desire for this as I would need to take pre-orders to make it happen. Please let me know by responding in the comments if you would be interested. Price point is currently unofficial but would likely be between $175 - $250.

Before this can move forward any further I would need at LEAST 30 solid commitments.

Also note: A final design will be released before actually accepting pre-orders. The purpose of this post is to gauge weather this is something worth investing more time and money into on my end.

Below is a list of people that appear interested. If your name is on the list and you are NOT likely to actually pre-order one contingent on final design / fitment, please PM me so I can remove you from the list.
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1. hardparker
2. SeanWRT
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6. FSociety ...? lol
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10. J3STER
11. twin fed
12. DocWardM2
13. shemeld_135
14. Ninjaneer34
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16. Itsthedurty
17. stxf30
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      07-11-2017, 08:18 PM   #27
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I'm going to reply to the PM here after some thought, not to doubt this product but to generate discussion on it.

Yes, more air can fill a larger space. That does not mean it will flow better. Turbulence is a major factor. If the turbo reacts negatively to a change in turbulence than you won't make anything. Flow testing should be done to determine this. Those accordions are not just to make it flexible. They also increase volume and help reduce collapsing.
If its a straight piece of metal flow should be improved and still the turbo will be the bottle neck. I do agree that it needs a laminar flow across the new inlet. But what is really important are pressure differentials! The goal here is to make the turbo suck in air with less effort.

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I am Interested, put me on the list.
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      07-12-2017, 10:05 AM   #30
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I am also interested. Thanks.
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Like everybody said show us some numbers keep the cost at 175 and I'm down to get one
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http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showt...2#post20798352

This thread might be of interest - I dyno;d mine before / after fitting Pure Inlet pipe and posted within this thread - shame now Photobucket no longer host to 3rd party sites....
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Any pics of what you have been working on?
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Any pics of what you have been working on?
The engineer has been working on it in his spare time I believe, but will not finish or release the files/images to me until I pay him. I just do not want to pay if there is not a likely chance that this will be able to happen. Even with 30 people, it is going to be a stretch to get the cost below $250/unit, and all that would be doing is covering my costs. So at the minimum it will take 30 people who are legitimately interested for me to get the design files. I will tell you, it is going to look exactly like the stock part. Wider opening near the turbo, and no accordion. The shape will be identical and the hose will have a smoother transition of size from the intake side to the turbo side. There will be an aluminum fitting molded into the silicone for both the turbo fitting and the crank case vent fitting.
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The engineer has been working on it in his spare time I believe, but will not finish or release the files/images to me until I pay him. I just do not want to pay if there is not a likely chance that this will be able to happen. Even with 30 people, it is going to be a stretch to get the cost below $250/unit, and all that would be doing is covering my costs. So at the minimum it will take 30 people who are legitimately interested for me to get the design files. I will tell you, it is going to look exactly like the stock part. Wider opening near the turbo, and no accordion. The shape will be identical and the hose will have a smoother transition of size from the intake side to the turbo side. There will be an aluminum fitting molded into the silicone for both the turbo fitting and the crank case vent fitting.
Got it. I totally understand. Thanks for letting us know. I was just curious. I hope that you get the quota that you are looking for. You are doing all the work and should do more than break even. I hope this works out.
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I'd be interested in this, but probably not until after my warranty is up.
Also, this is assuming that your inlet pipe could be fitted to an aftermarket turbo, mounted to an aftermarket exhaust (turbo) manifold.
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I'd be interested in this, but probably not until after my warranty is up.
Also, this is assuming that your inlet pipe could be fitted to an aftermarket turbo, mounted to an aftermarket exhaust (turbo) manifold.
It would fit anything that the stock inlet would fit.
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It would fit anything that the stock inlet would fit.
I'm guessing the aftermarket turbo that I get will have a larger inlet. Will there be an option to fit a different silicon coupler?
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The engineer has been working on it in his spare time I believe, but will not finish or release the files/images to me until I pay him. I just do not want to pay if there is not a likely chance that this will be able to happen. Even with 30 people, it is going to be a stretch to get the cost below $250/unit, and all that would be doing is covering my costs. So at the minimum it will take 30 people who are legitimately interested for me to get the design files. I will tell you, it is going to look exactly like the stock part. Wider opening near the turbo, and no accordion. The shape will be identical and the hose will have a smoother transition of size from the intake side to the turbo side. There will be an aluminum fitting molded into the silicone for both the turbo fitting and the crank case vent fitting.
How much is the total cost of getting the design files? Maybe we can Split it as a community for a solid product. I'm not a fan of the pure cut and stick together with the oem piece of pipe.
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The engineer has been working on it in his spare time I believe, but will not finish or release the files/images to me until I pay him. I just do not want to pay if there is not a likely chance that this will be able to happen. Even with 30 people, it is going to be a stretch to get the cost below $250/unit, and all that would be doing is covering my costs. So at the minimum it will take 30 people who are legitimately interested for me to get the design files. I will tell you, it is going to look exactly like the stock part. Wider opening near the turbo, and no accordion. The shape will be identical and the hose will have a smoother transition of size from the intake side to the turbo side. There will be an aluminum fitting molded into the silicone for both the turbo fitting and the crank case vent fitting.
How much is the total cost of getting the design files? Maybe we can Split it as a community for a solid product. I'm not a fan of the pure cut and stick together with the oem piece of pipe.
We're looking at around $400 for the files, which includes a photorealistic rendering of the final product. If people want to pitch in to get at least that done I would be more than happy to get them asap.

From there the next most expensive part is 3d prototyping to check fitment.
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any progress....updates??? gonna happen? not happen???
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We're looking at around $400 for the files, which includes a photorealistic rendering of the final product. If people want to pitch in to get at least that done I would be more than happy to get them asap.

From there the next most expensive part is 3d prototyping to check fitment.
Then we should at least pitch in for the design files, as a whole. I'm sure people here could afford $10-$15 a piece and have this done.
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Then we should at least pitch in for the design files, as a whole. I'm sure people here could afford $10-$15 a piece and have this done.
I mean that would get the ball rolling much sooner. But I highly doubt many people would be on board for that. I guess we can see what other people think.
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