[ilya335]

How are the police able to prove that he was the current driver of the car?

Like others have said, there are tons of videos online, and many they know who the driver is but can't do anything.

Here's an example

The guy driving is known for this kind of stuff but you don't see the police seizing his cars.

[Gato Grande]

Originally Posted by WW435

Seize the BMW? How is that legal?

Welcome to NY. They can if it's used recklessly and the person is subject to arrest. I see it more with bikes here than cars

[cmo_93]

^^ That M4 sounds so bad!

[cays]

Originally Posted by silvs

Police can pretty much take anything if they suspect it was involved in a crime. Your money, your house, your car... it's called civil forfeiture.

Basically your stuff is guilty unless you can prove it's innocent.

Absolutely. Anybody who is not aware of this should read about it just to be aware of what can happen. These are from New Yorker and Slate but many mainstream publications have done articles.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...y_and_run.html

[ShocknAwe]

Always fun to read the responses and ensuing pissing contests that invariably ensue in threads like this. A+, you all delivered!

[Herofmine]

Because of this shit, can't even drive normally without worrying about getting ticket, now i see more cops with laser guns on belt parkway.

This kid and his friend who took video are just fucking dumb asses.

[StatenEye]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Always fun to read the responses and ensuing pissing contests that invariably ensue in threads like this. A+, you all delivered!

We only exist to amuse you.

[Flying Ace]

In CA, they'll seize and crush your vehicle if you're guilty of a felony reckless with street racing enhancement.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by StatenEye

We only exist to amuse you.

[Vitalität]

Originally Posted by m4yooooo

Im sure everyone drives in and out of traffic like this at least once if not multiple times in their BMW. In my oppinion this guy Is unlucky and being singled out with a crazy charge that every driver with a BMW and any fast car for that matter will do at some point in its lifetime. You find a ton of videos online of people publicly racing their car on the roads 10 times worse then what was shown in that video. This kid could be facing a year in jail? Outrageous IMO

Not like an inch apart between cars. No no!

[3M TAPE]

They do this shit everyday on NY highways, not surprised at all.

Seriously what is wrong with these 18-29 aged people these days.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by WW435

Seize the BMW? How is that legal?

Originally Posted by jkoral

You don't even have to be charged with a crime:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/inv...top-and-seize/

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Police State now, they can do whatever they want.

They will drive his shit now undercover. Haha.

Each state and jurisdiction is different in terms of property seizure, but as others have said, the general concept is, if your personal property was used to commit a crime or an accessory used in a crime, then it's seized as evidence, and if found guilty is almost never returned. So there is a reason to this. It's not "police state" "legality" issue. If you used a gun to rob someone, you ain't getting your gun back. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

Ever heard of police auctions? That's where most of this stuff goes. This is another reason why people with run-ins with the law are also broke...that dude basically lost $60k plus attorney fees and fines. All said and done, will probably cost him over $100k plus lost wages.

Originally Posted by silvs

Police can pretty much take anything if they suspect it was involved in a crime. Your money, your house, your car... it's called civil forfeiture.

Basically your stuff is guilty unless you can prove it's innocent.

Originally Posted by mrmoua2u

When a crime is committed, in which clearly there was, the tool used in the crime is evidence. Perfectly legal. Secondly, it's a misdemeanor in most states. This violation in most states also gives authority the right to seize vehicle, meaning it was towed away and can be held up to a certain amount of time.

Originally Posted by Gato Grande

Welcome to NY. They can if it's used recklessly and the person is subject to arrest. I see it more with bikes here than cars

Originally Posted by cays

Absolutely. Anybody who is not aware of this should read about it just to be aware of what can happen. These are from New Yorker and Slate but many mainstream publications have done articles.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...y_and_run.html

A friend of mine committed a crime in which he crossed state lines and used a computer and cell phone. Basically, they seized his car, cell phone and as part of his bail terms and then probation, they limited his travel and use of the internet and social media accounts.

All in all, he probably lost close to $70k due to attorney fees, property forfeiture, lost wages, and fines.

They use to say, "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime". Today since they don't want to throw people in jail for nonviolent offenses, it's "you can't afford to pay for the crime", b/c the fines and attorneys fees will almost set you back 2-3 years of income.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by ilya335

How are the police able to prove that he was the current driver of the car?

Like others have said, there are tons of videos online, and many they know who the driver is but can't do anything.

Here's an example

The guy driving is known for this kind of stuff but you don't see the police seizing his cars.

I'm guessing the prosecution will argue that he admitted guilt when he asked for the video to be taken off YouTube...that and his apparently horrid driving record.

[SYT_Shadow]

Speeding? Ghostrider is speeding. This is being a j a c k a s s

[mdemon]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

Each state and jurisdiction is different in terms of property seizure, but as others have said, the general concept is, if your personal property was used to commit a crime or an accessory used in a crime, then it's seized as evidence, and if found guilty is almost never returned. So there is a reason to this. It's not "police state" "legality" issue. If you used a gun to rob someone, you ain't getting your gun back. Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

Ever heard of police auctions? That's where most of this stuff goes. This is another reason why people with run-ins with the law are also broke...that dude basically lost $60k plus attorney fees and fines. All said and done, will probably cost him over $100k plus lost wages.

A friend of mine committed a crime in which he crossed state lines and used a computer and cell phone. Basically, they seized his car, cell phone and as part of his bail terms and then probation, they limited his travel and use of the internet and social media accounts.

All in all, he probably lost close to $70k due to attorney fees, property forfeiture, lost wages, and fines.

They use to say, "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime". Today since they don't want to throw people in jail for nonviolent offenses, it's "you can't afford to pay for the crime", b/c the fines and attorneys fees will almost set you back 2-3 years of income.

But isn't that if you can't afford an attorney, one would be appointed for you!

Pretty sure the guy is driving his mom's car and would ask for an appointment of legal counsel.

He saves that 100k real quick

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by mdemon

But isn't that if you can't afford an attorney, one would be appointed for you!

And, at best, they'll quickly work on getting a plea deal on your behalf even if you're actually not guilty because public defenders are over-worked as it is.

You get what you pay for.

[cays]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

In CA, they'll seize and crush your vehicle if you're guilty of a felony reckless with street racing enhancement.

This goes back to 2007:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19339955/n...-cars-crushed/

[m4yooooo]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Cut him some slack, he's from New Jersey he doesn't know any better.

You guys all bought the wrong car!

[m4yooooo]

Originally Posted by Sharp_Cai

My questions is what triggers police to watch this video and decided to make the arrest...There are hundreds and thousands videos on Youtube about street racing and why this one is made it on the news. I have seen far worth than this and no one got arrested.

Exactly

[DrtyJrze]

Reckless driving that doesn't cause an accident NY wants to be a felony?

I wish they would use that energy to enforce the laws with public office holders and give us peons a break. Sheesh.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by cays

This goes back to 2007:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19339955/n...-cars-crushed/

Are these rice cakes?

that looks so pretty stacked.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by DrtyJrze

Reckless driving that doesn't cause an accident NY wants to be a felony?

I wish they would use that energy to enforce the laws with public office holders and give us peons a break. Sheesh.

horrible logic.

So attempted armed robbery that doesn't end up with someone shot isn't a felony?

Let me guess when you said "us peons", you mean those of us who commit crimes on a frequent basis?

B/c I don't drive like that....