2018 BMW M2 "NO START" 50 psi on all cylinders

ZeroEmissionZ · 03-02-2019, 09:54 PM

****Update**** so taken the car on a tilt tray truck to a bmw performance specialist “Peak performance in “parramatta Sydney Australia” , he seems to be pointing towards pistons and rings not seated correctly, and possible signs of water evidence on top of pistons, however not 100% certain as it didn’t really make sense to me , and he may be just trying to push a few bucks out of me, unless I’m not understanding him correctly. He said he has put some additive inside the piston spark chamber and left it over night and has gotten 180psi compression on cyclinder one! Which is great news , he expects to get the car going by end of week hopefully he says 😁😁😁😁😁 I’m a happy chap, I don’t mind if he does charge me a little extra even though it may not be a big job, I’m paying for his know how and experience, otherwise I probably would of went to many inexperienced mechanics wasted my time stressed myself out and not gotten a solution , will keep you guys posted on the outcome ✌🏽 Thanks for eveyones help and input on this post ❤️❤️

LuvMyE92 · 03-04-2019, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroEmissionZ

I don’t mind if he does charge me a little extra even though it may not be a big job, I’m paying for his know how and experience

Exactly! Good attitude. Thanks for the update and good luck, it sounds promising!

ZeroEmissionZ · 03-27-2019, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

Exactly! Good attitude. Thanks for the update and good luck, it sounds promising!

bad news he says the motor is problem, needs "rebuild or replace" would a stock n55 engine work with my inlet manifold and turbo? yes I know its not forged internally

like the M2 motors are supposed to be , what other options do I have really

LuvMyE92 · 03-27-2019, 06:41 AM

That is bad news, sorry to hear that. There should be plenty of N55 engines available from wrecked cars, but you never know what you're going to get as far as mileage and how it was maintained. I'd suggest that you want to get one with everything included, manifold, turbos, ECM, etc. so that there aren't any guessing games when you try to make it all work. Later you can modify it as needed.

OR... get an estimate for a rebuild. It may be a bit more expensive but then you eliminate a lot of unknowns, and presumably you've got the better internals and all.

It's a tough one and there is no inexpensive solution. Hopefully you got the car cheaply enough that it will still work out in the end.

Karmic Man · 03-27-2019, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroEmissionZ

bad news he says the motor is problem, needs "rebuild or replace" would a stock n55 engine work with my inlet manifold and turbo? yes I know its not forged internally

like the M2 motors are supposed to be , what other options do I have really

Was it a repairable write off?

It's not a minor front end accident at all then considering the motor is short and the Insurance company decided to write it off!

You might have to bring it back to its original state to meet the requirements for comprehensive insurance cover. This means you can't use a normal N55 engine, you have to use the M2 version.

ZeroEmissionZ · 03-27-2019, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

That is bad news, sorry to hear that. There should be plenty of N55 engines available from wrecked cars, but you never know what you're going to get as far as mileage and how it was maintained. I'd suggest that you want to get one with everything included, manifold, turbos, ECM, etc. so that there aren't any guessing games when you try to make it all work. Later you can modify it as needed.

OR... get an estimate for a rebuild. It may be a bit more expensive but then you eliminate a lot of unknowns, and presumably you've got the better internals and all.

It's a tough one and there is no inexpensive solution. Hopefully you got the car cheaply enough that it will still work out in the end.

Im going to try get a N55 motor out of a wreck and make it all work,

wish me luck

ZeroEmissionZ · 03-27-2019, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Was it a repairable write off?

It's not a minor front end accident at all then considering the motor is short and the Insurance company decided to write it off!

You might have to bring it back to its original state to meet the requirements for comprehensive insurance cover. This means you can't use a normal N55 engine, you have to use the M2 version.

My understanding is the motor is identical , except turbo , manifold and forged internals, I have also heard of normal non m2 N55 producing hp similar to the m2, insurance doesn't check the engine number to see if its a "M2 or non" if anything insurance would be cheaper being a underpowered motor, thanks for your concerns lol SMFH

Karmic Man · 03-28-2019, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroEmissionZ

My understanding is the motor is identical , except turbo , manifold and forged internals, I have also heard of normal non m2 N55 producing hp similar to the m2, insurance doesn't check the engine number to see if its a "M2 or non" if anything insurance would be cheaper being a underpowered motor, thanks for your concerns lol SMFH

That’s just your interpretation, not the Insurers view! I challenge you to ring them up and get confirmation from the underwriter. I bet you they won’t touch it.

ZeroEmissionZ · 03-30-2019, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

That’s just your interpretation, not the Insurers view! I challenge you to ring them up and get confirmation from the underwriter. I bet you they won’t touch it.

who even cares , who even says I'm insured lol

ZeroEmissionZ · 03-31-2019, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qnet

Running the car without oil was not good, especially if it was for 2-3 minutes. The car should have been looked over and inspected more before it was started.

hindsight's gold! , one would of thought the motor was a little more robust and I know a Toyota Camry from the 90s even the 80s or 2000s era would last much longer no oil or water driven, it was literally a minute

qnet · 04-01-2019, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroEmissionZ

hindsight's gold! , one would of thought the motor was a little more robust and I know a Toyota Camry from the 90s even the 80s or 2000s era would last much longer no oil or water driven, it was literally a minute

Yeah, BMW's are that way. They're good cars, but some have said that they are over-engineered. When I over-revved my E36 M3, a friend of mine said he had done the same to his Acura, and it still ran. With my M3, it bent valves and damaged pistons, because the clearances are so tight, from my understanding.

Good luck with what you decide to do.

ZeroEmissionZ · 04-03-2019, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qnet

Yeah, BMW's are that way. They're good cars, but some have said that they are over-engineered. When I over-revved my E36 M3, a friend of mine said he had done the same to his Acura, and it still ran. With my M3, it bent valves and damaged pistons, because the clearances are so tight, from my understanding.

Good luck with what you decide to do.

I honestly don’t even know what to do 😭 this isn’t going to be cheap or good for anyone should I sell it as is in an auction

eatingpizzainthef87rules · 04-03-2019, 10:50 PM

This guys in way over his head - way too big of a project for you it sounds like financially and knowledge wise.

ZeroEmissionZ · 04-03-2019, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eatingpizzainthef87rules

This guys in way over his head - way too big of a project for you it sounds like financially and knowledge wise.

just wanted to know how to get the car back on the road without having to spend $20k to get a new M2 motor, I'm not actually doing the project im paying someone to do it

McPurrs · 04-09-2019, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroEmissionZ

just wanted to know how to get the car back on the road without having to spend $20k to get a new M2 motor, I'm not actually doing the project im paying someone to do it

What is the suggestion from the person you selected that is qualified to do this work?

Can I ask what you bought the car for, money wise? Could you part it out and be even?

David.m · 04-10-2019, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeroEmissionZ

I honestly don’t even know what to do 😭 this isn’t going to be cheap or good for anyone should I sell it as is in an auction

I would think this is your best option. I'm guessing you're not planning to keep the car even if you get it running otherwise you wouldn't be pursuing this cheap & questionable repair process, and reality is if you get it going with using a non-M2 short motor or just swapping a bunch of parts (again non-M2) and you disclose this when selling no one will touch it.

ZeroEmissionZ · 04-10-2019, 09:11 AM

Peak performance at parramatta in Sydney have solved the riddle, the pistons rings were only stuck!!!!!!

I am so happy and the owner of the place is a one of the best in the industry. Saved me $5k!

mr_lab_rat · 04-10-2019, 05:43 PM

that's great news!

ZeroEmissionZ · 04-25-2019, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_lab_rat

that's great news!

thanks bud.

im happy so far, just waiting on them to try get it started now. Apparently it has a massive oil leak coming out from the bottom and engine won't start or stay on (loss of oil pressure) weird I never had this issue before , must of been from the hit. Very strange indeed how its leaking will find out and keep all you guys posted as to how this goes, thank you everybody for all the input too

McPurrs · 05-28-2019, 10:57 AM

Any update?

03-02-2019, 09:54 PM	#45
ZeroEmissionZ Private 18 Rep 50 Posts Drives: i3 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	**Update** so taken the car on a tilt tray truck to a bmw performance specialist “Peak performance in “parramatta Sydney Australia” , he seems to be pointing towards pistons and rings not seated correctly, and possible signs of water evidence on top of pistons, however not 100% certain as it didn’t really make sense to me , and he may be just trying to push a few bucks out of me, unless I’m not understanding him correctly. He said he has put some additive inside the piston spark chamber and left it over night and has gotten 180psi compression on cyclinder one! Which is great news , he expects to get the car going by end of week hopefully he says 😁😁😁😁😁 I’m a happy chap, I don’t mind if he does charge me a little extra even though it may not be a big job, I’m paying for his know how and experience, otherwise I probably would of went to many inexperienced mechanics wasted my time stressed myself out and not gotten a solution , will keep you guys posted on the outcome ✌🏽 Thanks for eveyones help and input on this post ❤️❤️
	Appreciate 4 nioh_lbbm21716.50 CoffeeLife397.00 akkando5863.00 qnet681.50 Quote

03-27-2019, 06:41 AM	#48
LuvMyE92 Occasionally frequent poster 3000 Rep 2,744 Posts Drives: CT5V-Blackwing Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: RTP NC, USA iTrader: (0)	That is bad news, sorry to hear that. There should be plenty of N55 engines available from wrecked cars, but you never know what you're going to get as far as mileage and how it was maintained. I'd suggest that you want to get one with everything included, manifold, turbos, ECM, etc. so that there aren't any guessing games when you try to make it all work. Later you can modify it as needed. OR... get an estimate for a rebuild. It may be a bit more expensive but then you eliminate a lot of unknowns, and presumably you've got the better internals and all. It's a tough one and there is no inexpensive solution. Hopefully you got the car cheaply enough that it will still work out in the end. __________________ Current inventory: F22 & G05 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing w/3 pedals Past: E24,E28(3),E34,E36,E37,E38(2),E39(4),E46,E89,E92 (obviously),F01,F06,F10,F30,F87,G12,G30(2),G82(2)
	Appreciate 1 ZeroEmissionZ17.50 Quote

04-03-2019, 10:50 PM	#57
eatingpizzainthef87rules Second Lieutenant 253 Rep 221 Posts Drives: M2 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	This guys in way over his head - way too big of a project for you it sounds like financially and knowledge wise.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

04-10-2019, 09:11 AM	#61
ZeroEmissionZ Private 18 Rep 50 Posts Drives: i3 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Peak performance at parramatta in Sydney have solved the riddle, the pistons rings were only stuck!!!!!! I am so happy and the owner of the place is a one of the best in the industry. Saved me $5k!
	Appreciate 1 Poochie9104.50 Quote

04-10-2019, 05:43 PM	#62
mr_lab_rat Major 564 Rep 1,092 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, 2018 X1 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (0)	that's great news!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

05-28-2019, 10:57 AM	#64
McPurrs The deuce gets loose 290 Rep 499 Posts Drives: '17 M2 BSM 6MT Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Worcester, MA iTrader: (0)	Any update?
	Appreciate 0 Quote