[TampaF87]

I recently jumped on the BM3 bandwagon (great stuff so far), and I've done quite a bit of research before making deciding to ultimately pull the trigger. I thought I was pretty tech savvy and can follow directions, but trial an error is how I eventually got everything to work. (maybe I can't follow directions?)

I'm running a catless downpipe, but otherwise stock in the performance department, so I went with a Stg 1 OTS tune to start me off, as it listed a FMIC & downpipe as *requirements* for Stg 2 OTS maps. Stg 1 is simply *no modification required*. Being catless, I do get the CEL, with the Stg 1 OTS map, and there doesn't seem to be a way to modify the OTS maps. I opened a ticket to inquire about a way to get a custom map simply removing the CEL function for cat efficiency and cold start delete and keeping the rest of the OTS mapping, and was told simply that the those are functions of the Stg 2 OTS maps.

I'm trying to figure out my next course of action. I'm not ready to do a custom map with one of the established tuning companies because I have more plans for the car and don't want to have to do things twice, and I don't want to have to revert to stock map just to be able to modify it to fix the CEL for cat efficiency.

What are my options other than full-fledged custom map or getting stuck with a stock map with cold start delete and cat efficiency CEL delete?

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by TampaF87

What are my options other than full-fledged custom map or getting stuck with a stock map with cold start delete and cat efficiency CEL delete?

You could switch to the stage 2 map temporarily. I know what it says for requirements. Just don't drive like an insane person and you won't hurt anything. Stage 1 was meant for stock cats, which is why it doesn't have the CEL delete included. You have a dp so you can run stage 2 and just take it easy.

If you don't want to use stage 2 or the stock map you could always install a JB4 and run it on map 0. That will delete the CEL while letting you keep your stage 1 tune. Not the cheapest solution, but it will work. Awron guage and macht schnell EVC module also have CEL delete functions.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Best option would be to get a much needed intercooler and go with stage 2 map
With stock intercooler car is under performing even with stage 1

[horsepower_and_hounds]

If this helps, I am FMIC & MPE only so far. Always running 93. Did some 4th gear pulls and a 5th gear pull and sent to Halim for review and it came back as "look great" I plan on a DP in the near future but from direct discussion you should be fine as long as your not going to track the car. if so then a DP is a must. FMIC is always required when raising boost levels.... believe me the health of the car overall will be better especially being in the hot and humid Fla environment

Jump to the STG 2 and do logs and review...you will be fine. Always run 93 and pop in some booster if it pulls timing a little bit. Also pay attention to your IAT's. I tell you the OTS map is smooooooth

[NO_USER_]

You'll be fine with Stage 2 with just a downpipe...sure you'll experience heat soak, nothing gonna blow up. If you're not hitting the track, you're fine.

[rtr76]

Hello,

I'm sorry for noob question, but sometimes I have to start What exactly you mean "if it pulls timing"? I mean what numbers I am looking for to recognise DME had done corrections in wot?

Thanks, Roman

Originally Posted by m2ruder

If this helps, I am FMIC & MPE only so far. Always running 93. Did some 4th gear pulls and a 5th gear pull and sent to Halim for review and it came back as "look great" I plan on a DP in the near future but from direct discussion you should be fine as long as your not going to track the car. if so then a DP is a must. FMIC is always required when raising boost levels.... believe me the health of the car overall will be better especially being in the hot and humid Fla environment

Jump to the STG 2 and do logs and review...you will be fine. Always run 93 and pop in some booster if it pulls timing a little bit. Also pay attention to your IAT's. I tell you the OTS map is smooooooth

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by rtr76

Hello,

I'm sorry for noob question, but sometimes I have to start What exactly you mean "if it pulls timing"? I mean what numbers I am looking for to recognise DME had done corrections in wot?

Thanks, Roman

When boost or temps are too high, the ECU will pull timing (reduce power) to protect your engine.
when you datalog you can each cylinder's timing and monitor whether its dropping during a pull or not.

[squixs]

Is a FMIC also required for stage2 in colder countries, like the Netherlands for example?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by squixs

Is a FMIC also required for stage2 in colder countries, like the Netherlands for example?

I would go with a 5" FMIC in cold countries

[squixs]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I would go with a 5" FMIC in cold countries

Hi Mike, is the Wagner Evo I/II Performance a 5 inch? I don't want any (trim) cutting on my car.

[SeanWRT]

I'm surprised no one before me was able to tell you this - you can turn off cat efficiency warning with STG1 map thru config tab.

Don't forget to save the changes and flash again and you'll be good.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by squixs

Hi Mike, is the Wagner Evo I/II Performance a 5 inch? I don't want any (trim) cutting on my car.

No cutting required with either one, EVO is 5" , EVO II is 6"

[XutvJet]

What issues did you have with the flash install?