Newer model M2C DME unlock ETA?

M3pedals · 03-05-2020, 09:43 AM

Hi guys,

Haven't seen any ETA on newer model M2C DME unlock. Anybody have an idea when the DMEs will be cracked and OBD flash + unlock will become the norm?

AlpsRider · 03-05-2020, 10:10 AM

If anyone knew when they'd crack the new bootloader I'm sure that we'd hear about it right away.

McLaren720s · 03-05-2020, 12:01 PM

ProTuning Freaks claim they are working on it but no ETA. I think lots of people have been waiting for a solution for about 6 months now. My feeling is that eventually someone will crack it but who knows how long it’s going to take...

robertm · 03-05-2020, 12:04 PM

One thing I've wondered, and I'm sure it's been answered, but I don't get that involved on the tuning side of things.

Is the DME software on our 2020 M2C models the same as what's on all other BMW performance DMEs? Meaning does the latest M5, new X3M, M8 etc all have this same code that needs to be cracked?

If all newer BMW models are in same boat then someone will get it figured out. If it's just 2020 M2C then more likely our cars won't ever have the ability to OBD download without a bench fix.

M3pedals · 03-05-2020, 12:12 PM

Just a little confused why the new S58 had tuning support immediately but the S55 in newer version M2C's hasn't gotten it yet in the 6 months they've been out. Hoping PTF gets it done asap!!!

I am an F80 guy but have a buddy who just picked up an M2C as his first performance car and has been relying on me for modding advice. He has 300 miles on it and already put downpipes and turbos on it. Without tuning it, he still has no idea what the investment in hardware he made is capable of!

robertm · 03-05-2020, 02:05 PM

Why new turbos and DPs if no tune?

cecaa850 · 03-05-2020, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by robertm

Why new turbos and DPs if no tune?

They can be tuned but not through the OBD port.

McLaren720s · 03-05-2020, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertm

One thing I've wondered, and I'm sure it's been answered, but I don't get that involved on the tuning side of things.

Is the DME software on our 2020 M2C models the same as what's on all other BMW performance DMEs? Meaning does the latest M5, new X3M, M8 etc all have this same code that needs to be cracked?

If all newer BMW models are in same boat then someone will get it figured out. If it's just 2020 M2C then more likely our cars won't ever have the ability to OBD download without a bench fix.

BMW has re-encrypted the DME for all cars with the S55 engine after March 2019. So yes, this affects M2/3/4.
You can still flash the ECU by connecting directly to it via harness, just cannot access it via OBDII.

Dutch Devotion · 03-05-2020, 04:07 PM

Little correction, there are tools that allow OBDII flashing, however such tools come with a price, I have heard 16k$ for the interface tool, Bosch I believe (see the Noelle topic)

M3pedals · 03-06-2020, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by robertm

Why new turbos and DPs if no tune?

He's a little nuts... Already strapped a set of Kratos on the car and its brand new.

Montaver · 03-06-2020, 12:17 PM

None of the tuners actually develop the software themselves. The reality is it will probably never be cracked as there is very little incentive for anyone to work on it. There was a good Smoking Tire episode a few years ago where one of the CA tuners (I think it was VF Engineering) explained how it works. The software development to crack DME's is completely separate from the tuners.

CosmosMpower · 03-06-2020, 12:28 PM

NevAr!

Harrison kayy · 01-09-2021, 04:52 AM

Stuck in the same boat, until something sorted I went and got myself a JB4

NathObeaN · 01-09-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by McLaren720s

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertm

One thing I've wondered, and I'm sure it's been answered, but I don't get that involved on the tuning side of things.

Is the DME software on our 2020 M2C models the same as what's on all other BMW performance DMEs? Meaning does the latest M5, new X3M, M8 etc all have this same code that needs to be cracked?

If all newer BMW models are in same boat then someone will get it figured out. If it's just 2020 M2C then more likely our cars won't ever have the ability to OBD download without a bench fix.

BMW has re-encrypted the DME for all cars with the S55 engine after March 2019. So yes, this affects M2/3/4.
You can still flash the ECU by connecting directly to it via harness, just cannot access it via OBDII.

This isn't the issue in question. What you're talking about is encrypted DME software that requires bench unlocking. As of June-July 2020 the bootloaders of the DME are also encrypted (by Bosch, who supply them). There is no method to unlock them yet, bench unlocking isn't an option either.

So... we sit and wait... or, buy a tuned ECU or piggy- back tune.

Spider. · 01-09-2021, 05:00 PM

Just be patient. A solution will eventually be available- there is a lot of profit to be made since this affects many new models which have a huge demand for tuning including the new Supra's, F8x's, G8x's, etc.

Malakas · 01-09-2021, 05:41 PM

I took delivery August 2019, and still waiting....

M2C_PLUS · 02-02-2021, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Harrison kayy

Stuck in the same boat, until something sorted I went and got myself a JB4

You said in Dec you changed 4 modules and swapped the DME out for a pre locked M2C one and you had tuned your car.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=27024806

Why run a JB4 after doing all that? Did your car not run right?

kimbow · 02-03-2021, 08:53 AM

Id be interested to know the answer to this too!!

21M2 · 02-03-2021, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Malakas

I took delivery August 2019, and still waiting....

Your's should be unlocked,No?

mikewills · 02-03-2021, 04:05 PM

Curious how this was tuned, considering the boot loader issue affects all DMEs past June/July-ish 2020?

https://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m2-cs/2034...FTyke5gobDx_nQ

GFEA · 02-03-2021, 04:34 PM

Pro tuning freaks unlocked My DME. I just had to uninstall it and ship it to them and be without a car for a week ... worth it

mikewills · 02-03-2021, 04:38 PM

What’s your car’s manufacturer date?

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robertm Major 450 Rep 1,358 Posts Drives: 2020 M2 Comp Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: dfw iTrader: (0)	One thing I've wondered, and I'm sure it's been answered, but I don't get that involved on the tuning side of things. Is the DME software on our 2020 M2C models the same as what's on all other BMW performance DMEs? Meaning does the latest M5, new X3M, M8 etc all have this same code that needs to be cracked? If all newer BMW models are in same boat then someone will get it figured out. If it's just 2020 M2C then more likely our cars won't ever have the ability to OBD download without a bench fix.
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M3pedals Private 22 Rep 74 Posts Drives: 2015 M3 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Just a little confused why the new S58 had tuning support immediately but the S55 in newer version M2C's hasn't gotten it yet in the 6 months they've been out. Hoping PTF gets it done asap!!! I am an F80 guy but have a buddy who just picked up an M2C as his first performance car and has been relying on me for modding advice. He has 300 miles on it and already put downpipes and turbos on it. Without tuning it, he still has no idea what the investment in hardware he made is capable of!
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Montaver Lieutenant Colonel 2164 Rep 1,652 Posts Drives: G87 M2 & M340i LCI Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	None of the tuners actually develop the software themselves. The reality is it will probably never be cracked as there is very little incentive for anyone to work on it. There was a good Smoking Tire episode a few years ago where one of the CA tuners (I think it was VF Engineering) explained how it works. The software development to crack DME's is completely separate from the tuners.
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Spider. Member 76 Rep 69 Posts Drives: BMW F87 Competition Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (2)	Just be patient. A solution will eventually be available- there is a lot of profit to be made since this affects many new models which have a huge demand for tuning including the new Supra's, F8x's, G8x's, etc.
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