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      12-22-2015, 02:50 PM   #23
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It boggles the mind that you cannot turn it off independently on BMWs and Porsches. The 370Z and Corvette allow this. They can't afford another menu option in iDrive or use a button blank?

Has the aftermarket been able to control this on the F80/F82?
On a Cayman GT4 you can control it via the Sport button... On a M4 you can via the M button settings I believe.

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The rev matching is only thing activating sports mode does in my GT4. But honestly it works so well that I don't bother turning it off. Maybe on the track but can't imagine not using it on the road.
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Am I the only one that always turns my DSC off whenever I drive my car? Unless I'm on the highway with the cruise on, I always shut mine off.
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The rev matching is only thing activating sports mode does in my GT4. But honestly it works so well that I don't bother turning it off. Maybe on the track but can't imagine not using it on the road.
Do you have any trouble going between manual cars? That's really my concern; I obviously rev match every downshift that it's just something I do without realizing it (as I'm sure many of you do too). I don't want to over-rev the M2 out of habit, nor do I want to build a habit from the M2 that I subconsciously forget to rev match in the other cars.

I just don't understand why rev matching isn't a standalone switch. Cost savings on not adding one more switch? Both Nissan and Chevy have standalone switches for their systems... it can't be that hard.
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Do you have any trouble going between manual cars? That's really my concern; I obviously rev match every downshift that it's just something I do without realizing it (as I'm sure many of you do too). I don't want to over-rev the M2 out of habit, nor do I want to build a habit from the M2 that I subconsciously forget to rev match in the other cars.

I just don't understand why rev matching isn't a standalone switch. Cost savings on not adding one more switch? Both Nissan and Chevy have standalone switches for their systems... it can't be that hard.
Especially not hard since it is a software thing to switch it on or off. A setting in iDrive is hardly any effort for a software engineer.

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If you drive in sport plus and put DSC completely off the better throttle response is going back into comfort mode.

On the Idrive i have sport mode on max settings.

Have you experienced the same thing?
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If you drive in sport plus and put DSC completely off the better throttle response is going back into comfort mode.
On the Idrive i have sport mode on max settings.
Have you experienced the same thing?
Advevo, FWIW, check pages 62-63 of the M2 Technical Training shown below:

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ok but i have now wheels with no TPMS sensors i quess the sport throttle goes to comfort modus then.
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If you drive in sport plus and put DSC completely off the better throttle response is going back into comfort mode.

On the Idrive i have sport mode on max settings.

Have you experienced the same thing?
When you have DSC off the throttle reverts to the sport setting.
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Advevo, FWIW, check pages 62-63 of the M2 Technical Training shown below:

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Does anyone know if there is a European MDM mode that can be coded in US cars? I drive mostly in sport+ and would like less intrusive nannies.
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Thanks for the info. Based on the information, it is not possible to fully deactivate the DSC...
Press an hold for 10 seconds.
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Translation into 1M language (except if mistaken):
  • 1M: briefly push the MDM button (instrument cluster: DSC icon + MDM) | emergency nannies active (drift indulgent)
    M2: either briefly push the "DSC OFF" button or push the Driving Dynamics Control button to setting "SPORT+" (instrument cluster: DSC icon + TRACTION) = SPORT+ mode with DSC ON [TRACTION] | high steering force for the driver | emergency nannies active (drift indulgent)
Anyone notice that Sport+ (MDM mode) is quite different to MDM mode in the 1M?
It's raining outside and I went for a short drive, 1st gear turning left in Sport + had me completely sideways... a lot more than I would have been in the 1M.
I actually thought I had DSC completely off.
Just curious if anyone else has noticed this or it's a combination of weather, conditions, new tyres (car has 200km's).
More testing will surely follow.
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Anyone notice that Sport+ (MDM mode) is quite different to MDM mode in the 1M?
It's raining outside and I went for a short drive, 1st gear turning left in Sport + had me completely sideways... a lot more than I would have been in the 1M.
I actually thought I had DSC completely off.
Just curious if anyone else has noticed this or it's a combination of weather, conditions, new tyres (car has 200km's).
More testing will surely follow.
MDM on the M2 does feel less restrictive to me than on other cars like my M4. Not sure if it actually is but I have found it intervenes a lot less than I would have expected based on my experience in other M cars... which is a good thing
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Update: original section #1 of the first post of this thread was replaced by pages 114 to 118 of the M2 owner's manual 2016 (US version) (which was not yet electronically made available at the time of creating this thread).
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Advevo, FWIW, check pages 62-63 of the M2 Technical Training shown below:

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Does anyone know if there is a European MDM mode that can be coded in US cars? I drive mostly in sport+ and would like less intrusive nannies.
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MDM on the M2 does feel less restrictive to me than on other cars like my M4. Not sure if it actually is but I have found it intervenes a lot less than I would have expected based on my experience in other M cars... which is a good thing
This is good news indeed.
I am planning to track in MDM mode and based on the feedback I am getting, it seems feasible (the nannies should not intervene much unless I mess up) with 1) a staggered set up and 2) Euro MDM ideally.

I am hoping I can run a square set up and MDM with limited or no intervention as well.
Am I expecting too much or should this be feasible?

There is a thread in the tracking section re this but decisive info yet:
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Is there any way to have MDM on while in sport ??
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Sorry if this is redundant but I'm still a little confused... Am I correct in that when DSC OFF is enabled there is no way to get the throttle response of Sport+?
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Sorry if this is redundant but I'm still a little confused... Am I correct in that when DSC OFF is enabled there is no way to get the throttle response of Sport+?
That's my understanding
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Sorry if this is redundant but I'm still a little confused... Am I correct in that when DSC OFF is enabled there is no way to get the throttle response of Sport+?
Is there a way to get Sport + throttle response with DSC OFF (i.e. 10 sec hold of the button). I also noticed the exhaust note changes with DSC off.

Is there a tune/reflash or can I use the AWRON?
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Stupid question but why are there 3 columns under Sport mode? Can we customize 3 different ways under Sport mode or something?
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Stupid question but why are there 3 columns under Sport mode? Can we customize 3 different ways under Sport mode or something?
You mean the A, F and A+F "sub headings"? That's because the M2 has those settings under "configure sport" in the iDrive menu.



A = Drivetrain = throttle and transmission setting
F = Chassis = steering

So if you put in Sport, but your "sport configuration" is "chassis" only, then your throttle and transmission remain in "comfort" and only the steering is in Sport.
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