Anyone else salty about the M2C

.2pdk · 01-28-2019, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SConn

Not arguing about your points, but you don't have to fix those items on the M2

Exactly, that's why I have a 2018 M2...

Saphirschwarz · 01-29-2019, 08:07 AM

just relax and wait for the M3 Pure

tutankhamon · 01-29-2019, 11:05 AM

I honestly feel that an OG M2 with a stage 2 tune is the perfect balance of everything. The amazing sound and weight savings of the OG, with the power that it should have had from the factory.

CosmosMpower · 01-29-2019, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tutankhamon

I honestly feel that an OG M2 with a stage 2 tune is the perfect balance of everything. The amazing sound and weight savings of the OG, with the power that it should have had from the factory.

And no warranty if it blows up.

.2pdk · 01-29-2019, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

And no warranty if it blows up.

OMG I didn't realize they were prone to blowing up.

Why do folks keep taking the risk?

GoneIn4Secs · 01-29-2019, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by .2pdk

OMG I didn't realize they were prone to blowing up.

Why do folks keep taking the risk?

Not prone to it

doug_999 · 01-29-2019, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by .2pdk

OMG I didn't realize they were prone to blowing up.

Why do folks keep taking the risk?

Just to clarify - what they are saying is that IF you were to have an engine issue AND you had a tune on it, BMW COULD (and probably would) deny the warranty claim.

But/and, I think lots of people have the tune and have no issues.

kpaso · 01-29-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by doug_999

Just to clarify - what they are saying is that IF you were to have an engine issue AND you had a tune on it, BMW COULD (and probably would) deny the warranty claim.

But/and, I think lots of people have the tune and have no issues.

I think he was being sarcastic...

palum6o · 01-29-2019, 05:44 PM

Values still seem to be strong on the M2, no?

I would think if you leased one in 2016, you should be sitting on at least $5 over projected residual.

F87_LCI · 01-29-2019, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tutankhamon

I honestly feel that an OG M2 with a stage 2 tune is the perfect balance of everything. The amazing sound and weight savings of the OG, with the power that it should have had from the factory.

Agreed. Also doesn't hurt to change suspension... seats... strut brace...

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

And no warranty if it blows up.

Warranties are for girls.

GoneIn4Secs · 01-29-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by F87_LCI

Agreed. Also doesn't hurt to change suspension... seats... strut brace...

Warranties are for girls.

Are u talking the oem m3 cf stut brace? Is it just bolt on on the og m2?

How much does it cost?

Or are u talking other kind of strut brace?

F87_LCI · 01-29-2019, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

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Originally Posted by F87_LCI

Agreed. Also doesn't hurt to change suspension... seats... strut brace...

Warranties are for girls.

Are u talking the oem m3 cf stut brace? Is it just bolt on on the og m2?

How much does it cost?

Or are u talking other kind of strut brace?

Yes.
You need a few extra parts.
Bought mine off a guy who took it off his F80, so don't know what the retail is, but the CF piece is the largest part of the total cost.
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doug_999 · 01-29-2019, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by palum6o

Values still seem to be strong on the M2, no?

I would think if you leased one in 2016, you should be sitting on at least $5 over projected residual.

$5 or $5k?

Saphirschwarz · 01-30-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by doug_999

$5 or $5k?

More like 5 cent

CosmosMpower · 01-30-2019, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by palum6o

Values still seem to be strong on the M2, no?

I would think if you leased one in 2016, you should be sitting on at least $5 over projected residual.

M2's leased like crap and no values are not 'strong'. A 55K MSRP 2016 is now worth high 30's to 40k tops.

Al Bundy's Dodge · 01-30-2019, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

M2's leased like crap and no values are not 'strong'. A 55K MSRP 2016 is now worth high 30's to 40k tops.

I dont know...roughly $5k per year depreciation cost on a 3 year old M2 sounds pretty good to me

doug_999 · 01-30-2019, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Saphirschwarz

More like 5 cent

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

M2's leased like crap and no values are not 'strong'. A 55K MSRP 2016 is now worth high 30's to 40k tops.

I'm at a loss as to what you guys are talking about.

The $55K 2016 would have been given residual value around $26K by BMWFS at the end of the 3 year lease - which would be coming up shortly.

Sounds like the M2 is doing really really well and BMW was off on its crappy residuals.

Even if it ends up at $35K this summer, that's still a 63% residual - which is incredibly strong.

palum6o · 01-30-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by doug_999

I'm at a loss as to what you guys are talking about.

The $55K 2016 would have been given residual value around $26K by BMWFS at the end of the 3 year lease - which would be coming up shortly.

Sounds like the M2 is doing really really well and BMW was off on its crappy residuals.

Even if it ends up at $35K this summer, that's still a 63% residual - which is incredibly strong.

Certainly don't give your cars away! I just did a global search for used M2s and there are only a couple available for sale under $40k.

On KBB, 2016 M2 with 32k miles in "Good" condition range is $34k-$38k (Trade In)...

Therefore if your residual was at $24k, you have some equity to work with. Not sure if the same can be said about AMG, right?

F87_LCI · 01-30-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by doug_999

I'm at a loss as to what you guys are talking about.

The $55K 2016 would have been given residual value around $26K by BMWFS at the end of the 3 year lease - which would be coming up shortly.

Sounds like the M2 is doing really really well and BMW was off on its crappy residuals.

Even if it ends up at $35K this summer, that's still a 63% residual - which is incredibly strong.

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Originally Posted by palum6o

Certainly don't give your cars away! I just did a global search for used M2s and there are only a couple available for sale under $40k.

On KBB, 2016 M2 with 32k miles in "Good" condition range is $34k-$38k (Trade In)...

Therefore if your residual was at $24k, you have some equity to work with. Not sure if the same can be said about AMG, right?

Do your leases come with a tube of lube in the US??...my residual on the 2018 is $41K on a PP of $71K ...that's in Moosebucks (CAD)...but still...it's a 57% residual on a 42 month lease, not the 47% on a 36 month lease you are suggesting. You guys are getting robbed.

doug_999 · 01-30-2019, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by F87_LCI

Do your leases come with a tube of lube in the US??...my residual on the 2018 is $41K on a PP of $71K ...that's in Moosebucks (CAD)...but still...it's a 57% residual on a 42 month lease, not the 47% on a 36 month lease you are suggesting. You guys are getting robbed.

Yep, I seem to remember it was 45/47/48 for a 36 month lease (15/12/10 thousand miles). The 2-series residuals have always been crappy (and very interesting to hear that yours are so much better!).

Now I have to be careful because there are few on this board who will say that I'm not seeing the big picture and it still makes sense to some people to lease the 2-series (it rarely does).

trey100 · 01-30-2019, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by doug_999

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Originally Posted by Saphirschwarz

More like 5 cent

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

M2's leased like crap and no values are not 'strong'. A 55K MSRP 2016 is now worth high 30's to 40k tops.

I'm at a loss as to what you guys are talking about.

The $55K 2016 would have been given residual value around $26K by BMWFS at the end of the 3 year lease - which would be coming up shortly.

Sounds like the M2 is doing really really well and BMW was off on its crappy residuals.

Even if it ends up at $35K this summer, that's still a 63% residual - which is incredibly strong.

I was thinking the same thing. So people expect cars to not depreciate? 2016 $100k M5s are going for low 50s with 20k miles, not much more than the 55k M2.

silverado · 01-31-2019, 10:56 PM

Definitely not "salty". I bought an '18 M2 knowing that the M2C is coming. Love the N55 engine sound and much prefer how the LCI M2 looks over the M2C. For me, the M2C front end, wheels and seats look a little too, umm, gaudy/ostentatious. The M2 is a more classy and classic M IMO and will always be regarded as such.

Of course the M2C is an amazing car, I just prefer the M2.

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