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      07-11-2016, 12:54 PM   #45
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No way i would pay almost 4000 euro for an louder exhaust. The worst thing you're original exhaust you also have paid for is lying around in you're garage.

So what s the best exhaust. The one you get for free when you buy the car
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      07-11-2016, 08:20 PM   #46
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Robin (or other with MPE),

Please confirm the following.

With the MPE, you have 6 modes possible
1) Exhaust in Sport or Track (2 settings)
2) Car in Comfort, Sport or Sport+ (3 settings)

Therefore, you have 6 sound possibilities.

Thanks!
IB4 metrickid confirms that 2 x 3 = 6
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      07-11-2016, 08:45 PM   #47
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If you want to be "loud as possible" but retain cats, drop the muffler and run custom straight pipes behind. This, however, probably won't be favorable for drone characteristics. But it will be loud.

With the premium prices now for m2 exhausts, for your needs you can easily get a high quality custom built system for cheaper. Just no guarantees regarding sound characteristics since it would be 1 of 1
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      07-11-2016, 09:25 PM   #48
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Point is: MPE is probably the best value for money, it's OEM(warranty), looks great(I have Ti tips) and sounds the best.

And it is even 2.7kgs lighter(LOL) than the stock exhaust I've been told on 2ertalk.de German BMW 2 series forum. Plus in Comfort/Sport when valve closed it's still comfy inside.

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I'm liking all of this info 👍
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      07-12-2016, 12:36 AM   #49
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If you want to be "loud as possible" but retain cats, drop the muffler and run custom straight pipes behind. This, however, probably won't be favorable for drone characteristics. But it will be loud.

With the premium prices now for m2 exhausts, for your needs you can easily get a high quality custom built system for cheaper. Just no guarantees regarding sound characteristics since it would be 1 of 1
That sounds like a simple straightforward and cheap solution. I'd love to hear what it sounds like. Drone doesn't worry me much because I never take motorway trips. Presumably one could just disconnect (or cut ?) the pipes before the muffler and, if you find it too loud or have trouble with the police, just stick the muffler back on. Saves $ 3000
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      07-12-2016, 01:11 AM   #50
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That sounds like a simple straightforward and cheap solution. I'd love to hear what it sounds like. Drone doesn't worry me much because I never take motorway trips. Presumably one could just disconnect (or cut ?) the pipes before the muffler and, if you find it too loud or have trouble with the police, just stick the muffler back on. Saves $ 3000
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1270926
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      07-12-2016, 01:40 AM   #51
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Exhaust upgrades are really expensive and I am not sure they are warranted in most cases. Having said that it isn't my money. Each year I go to SEMA and I talk to pretty much all of the companies that make BMW systems. There isn't a ton to differentiate, there are some craftsmanship differences. The tone varies but you have to hear them in person to tell, video will not tell you anything so you pretty much have to go to a cars and coffee and hear what the other guys have a go from there. Personally I can't justify the cash for a change in sound, it would take a significant performance improvement that I needed to make be from several grand on exhaust. Just a personal preference I guess
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      07-12-2016, 09:19 AM   #52
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Exhaust upgrades are really expensive and I am not sure they are warranted in most cases. Having said that it isn't my money. Each year I go to SEMA and I talk to pretty much all of the companies that make BMW systems. There isn't a ton to differentiate, there are some craftsmanship differences. The tone varies but you have to hear them in person to tell, video will not tell you anything so you pretty much have to go to a cars and coffee and hear what the other guys have a go from there. Personally I can't justify the cash for a change in sound, it would take a significant performance improvement that I needed to make be from several grand on exhaust. Just a personal preference I guess
This is why I think a Sport Cat is the way to go. Increase in performance and increase in sound. This would save thousands too!
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      07-12-2016, 09:40 AM   #53
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Ooo thanks and wow. If I go MPE, it will be with the standard diffuser and Titanium tips - just like yours.

But I am really 50/50 as do like..no love the tone of the standard.

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This is why I think a Sport Cat is the way to go. Increase in performance and increase in sound. This would save thousands too!
Or - yes keep standard exhaust, and put a sport cat on it. Of course, this is not OEM though.
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How do Akra and Remus claim ~+10HP/TQ gains from their cat-back systems but the MPE gives no added power? Are those numbers simply marketing talk?
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      07-12-2016, 06:43 PM   #55
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How do Akra and Remus claim ~+10HP/TQ gains from their cat-back systems but the MPE gives no added power? Are those numbers simply marketing talk?
Even if true, would you notice a 10hp increase?!? I am sure 99% of us won't!
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Even if true, would you notice a 10hp increase?!? I am sure 99% of us won't!
no, but it might help justify the price in my mind haha.
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      07-12-2016, 08:17 PM   #57
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no, but it might help justify the price in my mind haha.
Some people pay a lot of money for better sound systems...

I will pay for a better sound from the engine
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I know exhaust sound is mainly a personal preference but the only way to listen to different exhaust is through YouTube. It's really hard to differentiate them if not listening in person.
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      07-13-2016, 12:38 AM   #59
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I know exhaust sound is mainly a personal preference but the only way to listen to different exhaust is through YouTube. It's really hard to differentiate them if not listening in person.
...but even harder on YouTube as you say.

If the videos are not recorded at the same time and with the same equipment they will not help you at all. And even then they will not tell you how it sounds in real life just how different it sounds to the other ones.

I made a video for my Akrapovic exhaust I had on my old 335. When listening to the video it was not something I would have bought but in real life it sounded amazing.
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I will definitely upgrade the exhaust when my car arrive. Likely mpe
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      07-13-2016, 04:47 AM   #61
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Point is: MPE is probably the best value for money, it's OEM(warranty), looks great(I have Ti tips) and sounds the best.

And it is even 2.7kgs lighter(LOL) than the stock exhaust I've been told on 2ertalk.de German BMW 2 series forum. Plus in Comfort/Sport when valve closed it's still comfy inside.

Cheers
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Hey mate.. Any drone with the MPE
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      07-13-2016, 05:17 AM   #62
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Hey mate.. Any drone with the MPE
No, it's not the quietest car off course, but no drone like 1M.

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      07-13-2016, 08:24 AM   #63
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I know exhaust sound is mainly a personal preference but the only way to listen to different exhaust is through YouTube. It's really hard to differentiate them if not listening in person.
If you can't access an M2 with the MPE, try to hear IRL an M3/M4 with the MPE. Sound is very similar IMHO.
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Getting more technical here. Non OEM exhaust (fabspeed, supersprint) does sounds quite good but I do not trust to replace my whole exhaust system by non OEM parts. As I understand, MPE is a cat back exhaust. You guys think if it is possible to combine a sport cat (from either fabspeed and supersprint) + MPE?
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      07-13-2016, 11:42 AM   #65
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The only true exhaust is the one that comes out the side, right by your ankles as you exit the car
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      07-13-2016, 03:14 PM   #66
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My dealer is "forcing" me to get MPE. I guess it is their way of marking it up while still being able to say they are selling it at sticker.
It would be SUPER easy to swap your MPE with an OEM exhaust from a fellow member if you don't like it... plus some cash
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