[nike001]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

The upgrades in the engine are advantageous from a durability standpoint, you know, if you track the car? or if you plan to tune it?

And it's funny that you should mention a tune...the 235's engine is merely an N55 with the PPK, so......

Ah! Exactly the reason BMW put those pistons & top rings in the M2! So people can't say to M2 owners that their engine is 'merely an n55 w/ a tune'! Finally someone gets it!

I am excited, though, to see what the X4 M40i engine is to be like.. because it is eerily similar to the rough engine specs of the M2 before today. I wonder if that'll have the S55 pistons and top rings too.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

Wow much faster than the E92 M3. I knew it would be faster but not by 7 seconds. Cool!

put the same tire technology today and put it on the e92 then compare. i wonder what that would be?

[-JLT-]

M2 or C63 coupe will be my next ride

[_Mbition]

Be still my beating heart.... Be still....

[Teutonic]

Round Gas door? Interesting

Love the car. Want more colors!
C'mon BMW MORE COLORS!!!

[dmboone25]

7:58 Ring time puts the M2 in some really good company:

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife

100 Porsche Cayman S (981) Walter Rohrl 7:55.00 325 / 1320
101 Ferrari F430 7:55.00 490 / 1450
102 Caterham R500 1.8L K Series Robert Nearn 7:55.00 233 / 450
103 BMW M5 (F10) 7:55.00 560 / 1870
104 Mercedes-Benz E 63 AMG S-Model Horst von Saurma 7:55.00 585 / 1840
105 Porsche 911 Turbo (996) 7:56.00 420 / 1540
106 Ferrari 360 CS 7:56.00 425 / 1280
107 Ferrari California GT 7:56.00 460 / 1787
108 Panamera Sport Chrono Turbo Walter Rohrl 7:56.00 500 / 1974
109 Porsche Panamera Turbo Walter Rohrl 7:56.00 500 / 1870
110 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Dave Hill 7:56.00 411 / 1414
111 Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) 7:56.00 355 / 1420
112 SLS AMG Coupe Electric Drive 7:56.23 751 / 2095
113 Porsche 911 GT3 (996) Walter Rohrl 7:56.33 360 / 1350
114 Honda NSX-R Motoharu Kurosawa 7:56.73 280 / 1270
115 Porsche Boxster S (981) 7:58.00 315 / 1320
116 Seat Leon Cupra 280 DSG Jordi Gene 7:58.40 280 / 1346
117 Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59.00 405 / 1470
118 Jaguar XKR-S Convertible Sascha Bert 7:59.00 550 / 1897
119 Audi RS5 Horst von Saurma 7:59.00 450 / 1686

[64-bit]

Originally Posted by HF Integrale

So $51,000 + $3,000 DCT + $950 destination = $55,000. Not horrible.

Anyone know what the 'Ring laptime is for the M235i ? (I couldn't find one).

For 5K more you get a M3 euro delivery, same weight!

For a second I doubt myself if I made the right decision on the 2016 M3, and now looking closer, BMW cheap out the car in comparison to the M3, it now seem that the M3 is a far better deal than the M2... BMW will definitely increase the M3/M4 price for next year.

Not sure who would take the M235 instead. The M2 looks bad ass!i

[Nelson@BimmerTech]

[inFamousKicks]

Originally Posted by FAM3

Hey man just an opinion. Everyone has one

Told you I had my flame suit ready for users like you who can't take an opinion

Don't get me wrong, man, I'm with you. I respect your opinions, as well as everyone else's on this site. Some of them are just very comical, in my opinion.

[Cope]

Originally Posted by 64-bit

For 5K more you get a M3 euro delivery, same weight!

For a second I doubt myself if I made the right decision on the 2016 M3, and now looking closer, BMW cheap out the car in comparison to the M3, it now seem that the M3 is a far better deal than the M2... BMW will definitely increase the M3/M4 price for next year.

Not sure who would take the M235 instead. The M2 looks bad ass!i

Or you could ED the m2 and the savings for the M3 vanish lol.

[CarSpaz]

i did the fake Mineral Grey thing again... because Grey ...

[Aust350z]

Can't wait to see the M Performance parts for this.

[Aust350z]

Originally Posted by CarSpaz

i did the fake Mineral Grey thing again... because Grey ...

Donnington would have ruled on this little beauty....

[dan99]

good lord that exhaust sounds amazing!

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by W///

im disappointed you finally posted on page 8! wtf man.

[blefevre]

Originally Posted by CarSpaz

i did the fake Mineral Grey thing again... because Grey ...

Obviously AW needs to be done too

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by 64-bit

For 5K more you get a M3 euro delivery, same weight!

For a second I doubt myself if I made the right decision on the 2016 M3, and now looking closer, BMW cheap out the car in comparison to the M3, it now seem that the M3 is a far better deal than the M2... BMW will definitely increase the M3/M4 price for next year.

Not sure who would take the M235 instead. The M2 looks bad ass!i

Apples vs Apples not Apples vs Oranges. If you can get $5,000 off for ED on the M3 more than likely you can get the same for the M2. Which brings the apples vs apples to $10,000 more not $5,000 more. Just saying!

[vstM3]

Any word on the production numbers?

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by FAM3

Just like the 1M they took parts from the current generation M3/4 and created a baby version. The worse part is, they are using the terrible N55 engine. The exhaust note does not sound much different from the current N55 if you ask me and I had a 335 for reference.

Whatever room for improvement will be minimal compared to N54 days which is why at least the 1M had some kind of engine going for it/its limited availability. Thumbs down from me. Maybe the CSL version will address most of these issues.

Actually they didn't just put in the N55 with a tune. This much more akin to an actual M-motor. It is same bore and stroke as N55, n54, and S55. But it gets the internals from S55. It is more like a S55 with a single twin scroll turbo.

The M2 is a parts bin car like the 1M. But clearly there was much more thought put into the M2.

Auto Express is saying limited numbers, 500 for UK. So it might be hard to get like the 1M.

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Very very nice......but I am content with my M235 and not prepared for the loss I would take to move up. Still a very nice car

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by mofomat

Yes, that's a typo. The official BMW press release is here:

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...em=node__10618

You're right; but, your link doesn't show weights in the text. You have to use the downloads. Also worth noting is the specs are EU/UK units.

[64-bit]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

Apples vs Apples not Apples vs Oranges. If you can get $5,000 off for ED on the M3 more than likely you can get the same for the M2. Which brings the apples vs apples to $10,000 more not $5,000 more. Just saying!

Not really...
Today till December 15 you can get 7% discount for ED, next year is only 5%
Next year BMW may increase the M3 price

The new M2 has no incentives, M3 has $750

No Carbon fiber roof
No CF driveshaft
No Real M seats
No M3 engine
And the list goes on...

Anyway, the M2 still looks BAD ASS, I loved.