[Makman]

going to order mine today!! cant wait! BUT I NEED TO SEE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE FIRST. PLS SOMEONE?

[KSERGEI-BY]

good job. BMW!

[Zuzu]

Originally Posted by Nightfall

Nope, it's pretty much the same as the regular 2-series. There aren't any perfomance oriented options at all (apart from the automatic transmission).

Thanks mate.. Shame

[Total madness]

Originally Posted by snaimpally

I expect M235i prices are going to start dropping rapidly!

imagine the 1m price standing close to M2 as we speak...
i would name the episode : how to lose 10k$ in a day

[DS_BMW]

Is there an option list?

[Pure]

Excellent.

[Glassjaw047]

What a beauty....and this Long Beach Blue is growing on me every time I look at it!

[eau_rouge]

Originally Posted by Nightfall

Nope, it's pretty much the same as the regular 2-series. There aren't any perfomance oriented options at all (apart from the automatic transmission).

M Drivers Package..if you call straight line performance "performance oriented".

Apart from that, to compare the F87 with the F22 is completely nonsense. Both cars have nothing in common, when speaking about performance oriented.

[edwinm3]

1M prices will probably drop now, why try to get a 1M when you can get this. Nice car too bad no CF roof.

[chsbmw]

Originally Posted by newoldbeemer

OMG this has me so confused now. Not sure if I am still saving up for that E92 M3 or this instead or M235i or F80 M3...

E92 M3 still has that peaky engine that can't be had on "lesser" cars and will always be unique.

But this is newer, will probably be quicker on the street and perhaps more fun in day-to-day driving because of the power band. But then an M235i with an OEM tune (do they offer MPPK for it?) sounds attractive now.

F80 M3 is more attractive because that engine can't be had on a 340i.

Lets see what real list prices are. Around where I live, Golf R's go for no less than $45K so no way I'm ready to believe this will be available for $52K.

And I thought there's only one car to aim for - E92 M3 - So confused now

Want to be even more confused? Watch the base price end up being under $50k

[nbennettksu]

that M2 on the side looks cheap as fk

[Nightfall]

Originally Posted by eau_rouge

M Drivers Package..if you call straight line performance "performance oriented".

Apart from that, to compare the F87 with the F22 is completely nonsense. Both cars have nothing in common, when speaking about performance oriented.

My point was just about the options. And those are the same on the F87 as on the F22. I didn't make any performance comparisons.

And the M Drivers Package does only raise the limiter, so there aren't any technical differences.

[64-bit]

Originally Posted by Glassjaw047

What a beauty....and this Long Beach Blue is growing on me every time I look at it!

Tell me about it! I hate not being able to order that color for my M3 unless you pay $5K +taxes, just ridiculous.

[64-bit]

Originally Posted by nbennettksu

that M2 on the side looks cheap as fk

Gotta agree with you, no rims looks good on the M235

+1

[Who?]

this is what i wanted

[E30 Racer]

Originally Posted by Total madness

imagine the 1m price standing close to M2 as we speak...
i would name the episode : how to lose 10k$ in a day

Base on what? A top-shelf E30 M3 costs more than either one today!

[Jzambrano7]

Awesome looking car. I still take my stand with missing the trademark M mirrors. But I'm sure once aftermarket companies come in this thing will be really aggressive once modded.

[e92miami]

So no CF roof and drive shaft, that will explain the extra 116lbs over the M4.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by IrishCoffee

Wahhh, the mirrors... wahhh...

Who cares? It looks great and will likely perform great on track. Check your priorities. I'd rather my money go towards standard go-fast parts than special mirrors and other crap that only really matters at a car show.

I would bet that when thy decided they had the option of spending money on DCT vs things like an official " S" motor, bespoke " M" seats that can be changed out , a CF ROOF, and "M" Mirrors that it was a very easy decision to go with the DCT over all those other features.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by e92miami

So no CF roof and drive shaft, that will explain the extra 116lbs over the M4.

This thing weighs MORE ? Than an M4?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by M3 n X5M

The comparisons of the M2 to the M235i are out of place IMHO.

The notion that a tune or a turbo upgrade will match the two cars is unfounded.

I am amazed at the laundry list of changes seen in the M2: bearings, mounts, stiffening, optimized air flow, turbo integration to exhaust manifold like in the M6, aero body optimization, drivetrain hardening, M4 suspension, subframe hard mount, proper diff, oil sump, cooling, extra cooling, DCT or optimized 6MT...

Did I miss anything?

M235i advocates are overlooking all this when pricing and power figures are the basis of the comparison suggesting the M235i is similar.

The M2 sounds to be an M formula car. By formula, I hypothesize the M division proposed a certain set of qualities and met them with this new car, in which, most parts were optimized with concerted testing and design steps.

No tuners M235i should feel close.

This IS an M car. Period.

Excellent post. As always , what is a long list of details is forgotten by the modify my lower model to beat the M model crowd

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Wonder what it looks like without the front plate.
Bet it will be easier to cut a deal on an M3/M4 when this comes to market.
I'd want silver wheels and MG paint, but since M cars don't offer Active Cruise Control and it's a little too small, this vehicle doesn't work for me. Looks fun though!