[CrazyK]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

System Update:

bootmod3 update v0.10.065 is out with some great enhancements:

1) DCT Transmission Offline Flash - Flashing the DCT on the S55 is now done like with the DME tunes where data is first downloaded in full and then the DCT flash starts. This removes any dependency on your internet connection quality when flashing the transmission. TCU flashes now significantly faster than before! NOTE: If using mobile apps you'll continue to use the online based TCU flash until you get the latest update. If you use a laptop/web you'll have the new version immediately.

2) DME coding after flash - last fix we did on this resolved it for most cars but some were still needing to recoding using online recode, in most cases just after unlock if at all. This should now be fixed as well. If you have the new DME (MG1) with the B58/B48 engine this does not apply.

3) Agent/dash connectivity - further enhancements with dash auto-reconnect if cable is disconnected/reconnected. Now even minimizing the app and doing something else on your phone (e.g. call comes in, do an iMessage to someone, etc) and coming back into the bm3 app will have the dash still active including logging. A bug that at times caused logs not to get pushed to the server in case agent was powered down or cable was disconnected has also been fixed.

bootmod3 web version is updated and the new OBD Agent is out. Apps are in submission and will have the update live as soon as the app stores release them to public.

When would you expect 19.03 to be unlocked for the flash?

[Alessandro]

Originally Posted by CrazyK

When would you expect 19.03 to be unlocked for the flash?

+1

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

They were fine tuning the map on the road through the OBD just yesterday.

A initial bench flash will re allow OBD again. Question is did they do this procedure or not?

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

No and even if you did bench flash the new software, you still would not be able to flash via OBD unless you figure out a way around the OBD block from the latest BMW DME update. The previous loophole that was there has gone.

So Lichfield’s have cracked latest s55 DME encryption before the likes of more established tuners (PTF, HCP, TTFS).

WOW - that’s either amazing or they have gone old Skool & opened up DME to permenantly bridge the port encryptions...

[M2C_PLUS]

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

So Lichfield's have cracked latest s55 DME encryption before the likes of more established tuners (PTF, HCP, TTFS).

WOW - that's either amazing or they have gone old Skool & opened up DME to permenantly bridge the port encryptions...

The DME has not been physically opened

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

The DME has not been physically opened

Have they switched yr tune across to EcuTek platform yet ?

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

That is exactly what Im running.

Sent you a whatsapp.

WA msg rec'd & sub'd for yr feedback on Lfield vs EcuTek maps

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

No and even if you did bench flash the new software, you still would not be able to flash via OBD unless you figure out a way around the OBD block from the latest BMW DME update. The previous loophole that was there has gone.

Uh.. no.

A benchflash would allow you to downgrade the BTLD version which is where the exploit and patch occurs.

Because in bootmode the BTLD does not run the RSA signature checks for flashing the DME.

So you’re telling me litchfield was able to do a non invasive flash over the DME? Color me impressed and skeptical at the same time.

That or your car was not OBD blocked to begin with with the new BTLD

I don’t want to clutter PTF’s thread anymore but as far as I know ECUTek has not found a workaround for the new BTLD version.

[M2C_PLUS]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

Uh.. no.

A benchflash would allow you to downgrade the BTLD version which is where the exploit and patch occurs.

Because in bootmode the BTLD does not run the RSA signature checks for flashing the DME.

So you're telling me litchfield was able to do a non invasive flash over the DME? Color me impressed and skeptical at the same time.

That or your car was not OBD blocked to begin with with the new BTLD

I don't want to clutter PTF's thread anymore but as far as I know ECUTek has not found a workaround for the new BTLD version.

You seem to be focused on your own "knowledge" and not thinking about how capable others are, even more capable than you?

The hows whats and whys are nothing to with any other tuner apart from the tuners, developers and customer. If other tuners haven't yet figure out how to map the new software without bench flashing then that is their own focus.

I will put it in a quick list as not to hijack this thread.

1. MY DME RUNS THE LATEST DME SOFTWARE

2. MY DME WAS NOT BENCH FLASHED

3. MY CAR WAS LIVE MAPPED VIA OBD ON THE ROAD THEN SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON THE DYNO.

Im not going to tell you exactly how they did it because it is not my place too, but I know. Between Litchfield & Ecutek my car was updated with the latest BMW software and then mapped through the OBD, a mate is having their car done this coming week also and he is running the latest BMW software. Facts are facts mate.

[Commanderwiggin]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

You seem to be focused on your own "knowledge" and not thinking about how capable others are, even more capable than you?

The hows whats and whys are nothing to with any other tuner apart from the tuners, developers and customer. If other tuners haven't yet figure out how to map the new software without bench flashing then that is their own focus.

I will put it in a quick list as not to hijack this thread.

1. MY DME RUNS THE LATEST DME SOFTWARE

2. MY DME WAS NOT BENCH FLASHED

3. MY CAR WAS LIVE MAPPED VIA OBD ON THE ROAD THEN SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON THE DYNO.

Im not going to tell you exactly how they did it because it is not my place too, but I know. Between Litchfield & Ecutek my car was updated with the latest BMW software and then mapped through the OBD, a mate is having their car done this coming week also and he is running the latest BMW software. Facts are facts mate.

GOTTA LOVE ALL CAPS FACTS MATE!

Mr. Cookie is clearly trying to learn how the masters of Litchfield have cracked the DME since you just got Ecutek installed and Mr. Cookie also happens to have the Ecutek at his disposal.

Either way BM3/Ecutek are currently not offering any DME flashing for the new software.

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

You seem to be focused on your own "knowledge" and not thinking about how capable others are, even more capable than you?

The hows whats and whys are nothing to with any other tuner apart from the tuners, developers and customer. If other tuners haven't yet figure out how to map the new software without bench flashing then that is their own focus.

I will put it in a quick list as not to hijack this thread.

1. MY DME RUNS THE LATEST DME SOFTWARE

2. MY DME WAS NOT BENCH FLASHED

3. MY CAR WAS LIVE MAPPED VIA OBD ON THE ROAD THEN SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON THE DYNO.

Im not going to tell you exactly how they did it because it is not my place too, but I know. Between Litchfield & Ecutek my car was updated with the latest BMW software and then mapped through the OBD, a mate is having their car done this coming week also and he is running the latest BMW software. Facts are facts mate.

Ok.

That’s great. Thanks for the info. I’m not focused on my own knowledge. These are just facts after speaking with multiple tuners and developers. I’m not disregarding how capable others are but rather I’m going by facts and evidence.

Just skeptical when many well known developers have yet to figure out the new BTLD.

Good on you though, enjoy the car!

[Juicehead]

The fact that it has been over a month now and PTF is still very quiet on this worries me. Is it possible that PTF may never crack the new update?


On a side note, how do I tell...

1. If my vehicle received the update at my break-in service?
2. What version I am running?

[Arrow29]

I'm waiting anxiously until I get my car next week to check which DME version I have.
Can that still be determined by downloading the driver profile to usb (if don't have a pc / says)?

I've been told that Ecutek / Litchfield do not have a way to flash the latest update via OBD..it has to be flashed back to previous firmware.

Does anybody know if the B58 / S58 have the same DME as the S55? If they do that'll make it much more likely that a fix will be found as it's definitely in every tuners best interest!

[SimonBam]

My car is being updated on Friday (running in service) and I have a BM3 which I've not started using yet (I was waiting until after run-in), I've spent over £500 on the map so if it doesn't work as intended because they can't crack the code then surely I should be expecting my money back?

[doughboy]

Originally Posted by SimonBam

My car is being updated on Friday (running in service) and I have a BM3 which I've not started using yet (I was waiting until after run-in), I've spent over £500 on the map so if it doesn't work as intended because they can't crack the code then surely I should be expecting my money back?

Try telling them you're too busy to wait for more than the oil change, an hour or so. All the programming will take hours.

You'll have to bring it back another day for any programming... Then don't bother.

[MR RIZK]

Originally Posted by doughboy

Try telling them you're too busy to wait for more than the oil change, an hour or so. All the programming will take hours.

You'll have to bring it back another day for any programming... Then don't bother.

Why is it being updated in the first place? A run in service does not constitute an update.

Usually an update is only applied by default if there is a safety issue that needs to be addressed.

That's how it usually works locally for AU as far as I know. Time is money so would be surprised if other countries are different otherwise use doughboy tactic.

[Arrow29]

Originally Posted by MR RIZK

Why is it being updated in the first place? A run in service does not constitute an update.

Usually an update is only applied by default if there is a safety issue that needs to be addressed.

That's how it usually works locally for AU as far as I know. Time is money so would be surprised if other countries are different otherwise use doughboy tactic.

It seems like dealers in Europe treat the updates a little differently to here in Australia, from what I've read anyway.

[MR RIZK]

Arrow29 Thanks for the clarification..

[Winterstorm]

Question in regards to the M4 Maps.
Are the M4 Std/CP Maps from OPF cars the same like the Maps from M4's
without OPF ? I heard from my Dealer, the M4 Maps from OPF M4's are slighlty different. Boost pressure is a little bit higher to compensate the OPF. I don't know if this is true .
And if yes, are these M4 OPF maps in BM3 or will be added soon ?
Thanks.

[SimonBam]

Originally Posted by Arrow29

It seems like dealers in Europe treat the updates a little differently to here in Australia, from what I've read anyway.

Originally Posted by MR RIZK

Why is it being updated in the first place? A run in service does not constitute an update.

Usually an update is only applied by default if there is a safety issue that needs to be addressed.

That's how it usually works locally for AU as far as I know. Time is money so would be surprised if other countries are different otherwise use doughboy tactic.

Just an update.
My car had it's running in service today, I didn't mention anything beforehand about software but when I picked it up I enquired as to whether anything was updated and they told me nothing had been done as nothing was needed.

My car is October 18 build and when I got home I managed to flash the BM3 map no problem.

[MR RIZK]

Sweet.. that's great news and only another 12,000k's till you need to decide what excuse you will use next service..

[AkkieNL]

I bought a chip from Racechip.eu since i thought it would be handy to be able to turn it on/off whenever i want with my phone but unfortunly it did not work on my M2C (no difference in horsepower).

Looking for a solution i bought the bootmod3 licence and must say this is so easy and awesome app, works perfectly without issues.

I did install the GTS transmission map aswell but had issues with that not being able to manually shift and the gear indicator dissapeared, so reverted it back to stock. If anybody has solved this i would like to know.

Running the stage2 95 tune, well done good job!