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      05-19-2018, 01:26 PM   #1
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Full U.S. model tech specs.

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Cool! Getting ever so close to the final US pricing + options!!
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35lbs heavier than an M4 and has the the same weight distribution (52/48).
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35lbs heavier than an M4 and has the the same weight distribution (52/48).
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I'm not so happy either. I know it's a smaller car and supposed to be more fun but all these news makes me question my decision time to time. Maybe holding onto my 6MT M4 Comp is not a bad idea instead of getting an M2C and trying to shave off 100-150lbs.
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The weight distribution is fine. However, this weight could be an issue. Im on the fence about the CF parts, you know they will be big $$$.

Just have to wait for the reviews.
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I'm not so happy either. I know it's a smaller car and supposed to be more fun but all these news makes me question my decision time to time. Maybe holding onto my 6MT M4 Comp is not a bad idea instead of getting an M2C and trying to shave of 100-150lbs.
I'm reserving judgment until we get to see some reviews, but yeah, not the news we were hoping for.
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Weight is the obvious shortcoming of the car. We are approaching Camaro ZL1 weight and that car is huge. 2-300 lbs more than my e46 M3 as well. Unfortunately auto makers are just adding more power because it is a lot cheaper than decreasing weight while adhering to stricter safety regulations.
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C&D weighed a 2015 M4 with DCT, CF Rood, CC Brakes = 3581lbs
C&D previously weighted a 2010 E92 with DCT, CF Rood = 3600lbs

The DCT M2C is heavier than the E92 M3? Something has to be wrong.

Side Note: BMW did an incredible job on the M3/M4 weight. The bar was high.
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M2 Total weight MT: 3,450-lbs……(Front 51.4% / Rear 48.6%)
M2 Total weight DCT: 3,505-lbs…..(Front 51.9% / Rear 48.1%)

M2 Weight Distribution

………….FRONT….………REAR
MT…….1,773-lbs……..1,677-lbs
DCT..…1,819-lbs……..1,686-lbs

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M2c Total weight MT: 3,600-lbs……(Front 51.9% / Rear 48.1%)
M2c Total weight DCT: 3,655-lbs…..(Front 52.4% / Rear 47.6%)

M2c Weight Distribution

………….FRONT…….……REAR
MT…….1,868-lbs……..1,732-lbs
DCT…..1,915-lbs……..1,740-lbs

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EU spec M2C weighs 1550kg (despite the particulate filter) and US spec weighs 1633kg. 83 kg or 182lbs is a significant difference. I bet most of it comes from the stupid gadgets that are now standard such as forward-collision alert, auto braking with pedestrian detection, lane-departure warning. It's also almost certain that US spec cars will have auto seats instead of manual EU spec seats. I mean how difficult is it to make all these optional? Why do I have to add close 200lbs to my car with all this stuff that I don't want?
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M2 Total weight MT: 3,450-lbs
M2 Total weight DCT: 3,505-lbs

M2 Weight Distribution

…………..FRONT…………REAR
MT……..1,794-lbs……..1,656-lbs
DCT……1,823-lbs……..1,682-lbs

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M2c Total weight MT: 3,600-lbs
M2c Total weight DCT: 3,655-lbs

M2c Weight Distribution

…………..FRONT…………REAR
MT……..1,868-lbs……..1,732-lbs
DCT……1,897-lbs……..1,758-lbs
I wonder what wheels are included in this weight spec. 788M would be the assumption (if standard), but who knows.
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I wonder what wheels are included in this weight spec. 788M would be the assumption (if standard), but who knows.

I'd assume it's the 788M. The thing I find amusing about this is the 0.1% better weight distribution the M2c has over the M2. That's awesome, now if you'll excuse me I need to go look at used Porsche's.
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So, apples to apples (and using only BMW's official U.S. specs), the M2C weighs 150 lbs. more than the M2 LCI, has a 1 percent worse (to the front) weight distribution, a slightly higher Cx (.35 vs. .36-.38) and (estimated) same 0-60 for manual and DCT (LCI quoted 0-60 mph of 4.3/4.1 and M2C 0-100 kmh of 4.4/4.2). The price difference, if the number that's been copied all over the place is correct, is $5,400 more ($53,500 to $58,900 - using beginning of model year pricing, which is the only fair way to compare.
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I wonder what wheels are included in this weight spec. 788M would be the assumption (if standard), but who knows.

I'd assume it's the 788M. The thing I find amusing about this is the 0.1% better weight distribution the M2c has over the M2. That's awesome, now if you'll excuse me I need to go look at used Porsche's.
If the 718 didn't sound like crap I would look.
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EU spec M2C weighs 1550kg (despite the particulate filter) and US spec weighs 1633kg. 83 kg or 182lbs is a significant difference. I bet most of it comes from the stupid gadgets that are now standard such as forward-collision alert, auto braking with pedestrian detection, lane-departure warning. It's also almost certain that US spec cars will have auto seats instead of manual EU spec seats. I mean how difficult is it to make all these optional? Why do I have to add close 200lbs to my car with all this stuff that I don't want?
The automatic seats could account for some it but these camera-based driver safety systems aren't going to add that much weight.

There's definitely a missing link. Perhaps the European number doesn't include any fluids.
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So, apples to apples (and using only BMW's official U.S. specs), the M2C weighs 150 lbs. more than the M2 LCI, has 1 percent worse (to the front) weight distribution, a slightly higher Cx (.35 vs. .36-.38) and (estimated) same 0-60 for DCT and manual (LCI quoted 0-60 mph of 4.3/4.1 and M2C 0-100 kmh of 4.4/4.2). The price difference, if the number that's been copied all over the place is correct, is $5,400 more ($53,500 to $58,900 - using beginning of model year numbers, which is the only fair way to compare.
I just don't get the math. Where is the weight coming from. There is no way the S55 is 150lbs more than the N55. Front fascia is trivial. And the new seats are supposed to be lighter than the M2 seats. As said above, something is missing.
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Patiently waiting for the ensuing threads on how to lighten your M2c by removing all the pedestrian safety system BS. I will be doing this if possible. I've got my tool set and ECU programmers, just need the DIY.
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EU spec M2C weighs 1550kg (despite the particulate filter) and US spec weighs 1633kg. 83 kg or 182lbs is a significant difference. I bet most of it comes from the stupid gadgets that are now standard such as forward-collision alert, auto braking with pedestrian detection, lane-departure warning. It's also almost certain that US spec cars will have auto seats instead of manual EU spec seats. I mean how difficult is it to make all these optional? Why do I have to add close 200lbs to my car with all this stuff that I don't want?
Because that's what the fat-a$$ buyers in the U.S. want. Why package all this stuff separately (and complicate production), when most buyers (and dealers, for their high-profit, on-the-lot vehicles) order it anyway?
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I just don't get the math. Where is the weight coming from. There is no way the S55 is 150lbs more than the N55. Front fascia is trivial. And the new seats are supposed to be lighter than the M2 seats. As said above, something is missing.
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I just don't get the math. Where is the weight coming from. There is no way the S55 is 150lbs more than the N55. Front fascia is trivial. And the new seats are supposed to be lighter than the M2 seats. As said above, something is missing.
What's missing is people refusing to believe the truth. BMW would not have put those weights out there unless they were true, because they know every tester is going to pound (get it?) them for it.
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