[dmboone25]

[QUOTE=six-n-twins53;23551913]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Horsepower does not completely compensate for weight. Only during acceleration. All other aspects of driving suffer

You mean all other subjective aspects of driving.

All objective measurements will be improved. All of them. That’s a fact.

The subjective, non-measurable aspects will be up for debate. To which you’re certainly entitled to insert your respective opinion.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I think the pre-LCI lights are the main aspect of the "dated-ness" of the OG M2.

The HEX LEDs look much more aggressive, IMO. OG M2 or M2C..

Agree, lights are definitely the thing that dates the car.

[six-n-twins53]

[QUOTE=dmboone25;23551994]

Originally Posted by six-n-twins53

You mean all other subjective aspects of driving.

All objective measurements will be improved. All of them. That’s a fact.

The subjective, non-measurable aspects will be up for debate. To which you’re certainly entitled to insert your respective opinion.

So the extra hp and weight will improve skidpad? You're silly to assume that extra horsepower will make everything better. You sound like an auto executive who assumes that horsepower trumps all. Please enlighten me as to how horsepower helps braking and my other "opinion" catagories. I do not think the word "facts" means what you think it means

[hellrotm]

Don’t do it to another thread.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

Agree, lights are definitely the thing that dates the car.

Actually the MY16 and MY17 Xenon headlights look much better than the LCI M2 and the M2C LED lights because the Xenon headlights have the LED eyebrow strip above the headlights,which looks fantastic.BMW really blew it not including them on the new M2 LED headlights.

[GerardzM]

Glad to see someone else keeping their OG M2. I felt like I was the only one!

Seems like many are jumping ship for the new one.
Wonder if they'll just do it over again when the S58 version makes an appearance since it will be superior lol

Everyone's after the tuning for "BIG POWER"!

We have European cars not monster dragstrip Dodge Demon type cars.

[D22M2]

Originally Posted by GerardzM

Glad to see someone else keeping their OG M2. I felt like I was the only one!

Seems like many are jumping ship for the new one.
Wonder if they'll just do it over again when the S58 version makes an appearance since it will be superior lol

Everyone's after the tuning for "BIG POWER"!

We have European cars not monster dragstrip Dodge Demon type cars.

S58 powered m2 will be the real M car. lol

[D22M2]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

Actually the MY16 and MY17 Xenon headlights look much better than the LCI M2 and the M2C LED lights because the Xenon headlights have the LED eyebrow strip above the headlights,which looks fantastic.BMW really blew it not including them on the new M2 LED headlights.

Agree

[izzyM2]

Just daily driving my M2 17' has not given me anything but smiles and happiness. It's a car I honestly enjoy and proud of driving daily. A car a lot of peeps expresses their adoration towards. I have never owned such a car with this much appeal. Just the overall exterior style the M2 wins vs the M2C for me.
For these solid reasons alone I am keeping my M2 17', I do not have to sway myself to see an M2C because as what I read so far its just not it. I will hope that the next M3/M4 will get back to the M spirit of balance and just not give it more brute force, then they will have my attention again and maybe my next M. Thanks OP for showing as the side by side pix, except for being the "new" thing the rear overhang, wheels, and huge kidney grill design just don't look right. fail on the M2C in my eyes.

[Karmic Man]

To me the new front end looks more aggressive but each to their own I guess

Wheels will be changed by most anyway and so will the exhaust

[Robin_NL]

I 100% understand the OP, the cars look 98% the same even to car enthusiasts.

I only switched to M2C for just 1 thing, S55.

My engine is stock, not tuned:

I was at Assen Moto GP track 1.5 years ago and had the car jumping into Limp mode. Hard driving.
Dealer can't do nothing.

A week ago I was driving to Düsseldorf Germany on the Autobahn doing 120-150 mph and it went into limp mode again.....

Restart engine : everything fine.

Thoug I love the N55 engine sound(I have the MPE) it's not particularly fast /powerful, it doesn't want to rev like S55 does.

Etcetera etcetera

So with no warranty left I opted for the S55. Dealer agreed. I don't want to tune my N55 though I know with downpipe/IC flash whatever it becomes another car....

But I get F87Luv's point.

The cars look the same more or less. I went for another colour, HS, though I 'm in love with LBB which I have now.

Reading this thread I see some posters acting like the fox in this tale)))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
Cheers
Robin

[D22M2]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

I 100% understand the OP, the cars look 98% the same even to car enthusiasts.

I only switched to M2C for just 1 thing, S55.

My engine is stock, not tuned:

I was at Assen Moto GP track 1.5 years ago and had the car jumping into Limp mode. Hard driving.
Dealer can't do nothing.

A week ago I was driving to Düsseldorf Germany on the Autobahn doing 120-150 mph and it went into limp mode again.....

Restart engine : everything fine.

Thoug I love the N55 engine sound(I have the MPE) it's not particularly fast /powerful, it doesn't want to rev like S55 does.

Etcetera etcetera

So with no warranty left I opted for the S55. Dealer agreed. I don't want to tune my N55 though I know with downpipe/IC flash whatever it becomes another car....

But I get F87Luv's point.

The cars look the same more or less. I went for another colour, HS, though I 'm in love with LBB which I have now.

Reading this thread I see some posters acting like the fox in this tale)))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
Cheers
Robin

Lol. I bet you’re going to crap on the M2c when the new M2xxx comes out.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Aboen

Lol. I bet you’re going to crap on the M2c when the new M2xxx comes out.

Look, it's just a fact that the N55 does not have the cooling capacity of the S55. The air to water intercooler and extra radiator surface area is not for fun.

I'm not a track rat so I probably can't get it to go into limp mode, but I bet a good driver at a place like COTA can.

No need to be overly sensitive, it's not a knock. I might be in the market for a used M2 .

I own neither and drove both (M2 & M4 ZCP) back-to-back also think the S55 seems more happy in the upper reaches of the rev range than N55.

[KristianS]

Originally Posted by MR.

I like your thinking... I would have done the same if my M2 was still in my garage. It would have saved me the difference price I could have used for all the mods making my M2 a better car.

Pity I found out too late that the differences are too small to get a whole new car. It is what it is... Now let's throw money at the M2C.

MR

This is interesting.

I've read the early journos reports and the thing that strikes me is (understanding that these people should know cars and how they feel pretty well) they drive a car a couple of times a few years ago, then jump in this new version and eulogise about how great it is and how the on-limit handling is now night and day better but can you really make that assessment without driving them back to back or without having owned a base M2 for a while and then driving an M2 Comp? Sure they'll be differences and I am convinced the engine will be better but is it all enough to make an appreciable difference?

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

I 100% understand the OP, the cars look 98% the same even to car enthusiasts.

I only switched to M2C for just 1 thing, S55.

My engine is stock, not tuned:

I was at Assen Moto GP track 1.5 years ago and had the car jumping into Limp mode. Hard driving.
Dealer can't do nothing.

A week ago I was driving to Düsseldorf Germany on the Autobahn doing 120-150 mph and it went into limp mode again.....

Restart engine : everything fine.

Thoug I love the N55 engine sound(I have the MPE) it's not particularly fast /powerful, it doesn't want to rev like S55 does.

Etcetera etcetera

So with no warranty left I opted for the S55. Dealer agreed. I don't want to tune my N55 though I know with downpipe/IC flash whatever it becomes another car....

But I get F87Luv's point.

The cars look the same more or less. I went for another colour, HS, though I 'm in love with LBB which I have now.

Reading this thread I see some posters acting like the fox in this tale)))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
Cheers
Robin

I must not be pushing my car hard enough. I've done maybe eighteen track events in sweltering heat and I've only gone into limp mode twice. Once because my fuel was low and the other because I dropped my tire pressure too low. I'm not saying that I'm entirely writing the M2C off but I won't be an early adopter as I was for the base M2. I can wait to pay less than sticker and to actually test drive the car before purchase.

[10"]

Original poster: was that you I encountered in NJ yesterday on the freeway? The M2 I drove alongside for a while looked just like yours and I think also had Pennsylvania plates? I was in the Orange 1M with my wife and toddler.

[F87LUV]

Originally Posted by 10"

Original poster: was that you I encountered in NJ yesterday on the freeway? The M2 I drove alongside for a while looked just like yours and I think also had Pennsylvania plates? I was in the Orange 1M with my wife and toddler.

MD plates NJ bound? Yes. That was me! Nice car.

[10"]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

MD plates NJ bound? Yes. That was me! Nice car.

Yes! Sorry I had to drive pretty slow because my 3 year old was sleeping in the back and my wife had her seat reclined sleeping too!! Lol.

Your M2 looked great!! You made the right choice keeping the OG M2, IMO...

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Aboen

Lol. I bet you’re going to crap on the M2c when the new M2xxx comes out.

Certainly not, why should I do that?
I love my LBB N55 M2, don't get me wrong. The looks(wheels, stance, colour, sound)

I just want a more powerful , more racy, more //M and more reliable engine.

Cheers
Robin

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by Who?

By stating in a m2c forum that you saw the m2c in person and came to the realisation that the comp isnt worthy of an upgrade takes away from the new owners that are stoked about their new car. Im sure you dont see it that way seeing as you have no consideration of this..

Itd be different if, say, you have something valuable to share, but no, your basing your opinion on a delivery car that had wrapping on it.

I have the original too, but i appreciate what the comp is, and the last thing id do is put down a what seems to be shaping up to be a fantastic car to justify my purchase

So what made you fee the need to share/reassure yourself? Might it be that youre insecure about your purchase and want to put other people down to make yourself feel better?

+1

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by F87LUV

Omg, you're SO right. Posting a video and some shots of an M2C in the M2C forum? Blasphemy! I'm totally out of line here. People post same the threads over and over. "What color should I get? Manual vs dct? I ordered a car! Why is the sky blue?". Sorry for the relevant post. I know you're not used to it.

Only sh*t stirring through this entire thread is these two posts. Buh-bye.

I asked a question and then you barked like a dog...insecurity proven

[GerardzM]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

I 100% understand the OP, the cars look 98% the same even to car enthusiasts.

I only switched to M2C for just 1 thing, S55.

My engine is stock, not tuned:

I was at Assen Moto GP track 1.5 years ago and had the car jumping into Limp mode. Hard driving.
Dealer can't do nothing.

A week ago I was driving to Düsseldorf Germany on the Autobahn doing 120-150 mph and it went into limp mode again.....

Restart engine : everything fine.

Thoug I love the N55 engine sound(I have the MPE) it's not particularly fast /powerful, it doesn't want to rev like S55 does.

Etcetera etcetera

So with no warranty left I opted for the S55. Dealer agreed. I don't want to tune my N55 though I know with downpipe/IC flash whatever it becomes another car....

But I get F87Luv's point.

The cars look the same more or less. I went for another colour, HS, though I 'm in love with LBB which I have now.

Reading this thread I see some posters acting like the fox in this tale)))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
Cheers
Robin

This makes sense to me to go for the switch. Last thing I'd want is an issue at speed at the track. There have been multiple reports on this with the n55 M2.
It's like it starves itself of fuel when things speed up/ heat up.