[cptobvious]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Did that wing also come with a vape pen and a backwards fitting hat?

I know it wasn't your personal choice, so I'm faulting you but other than a functional race car, most large wings look immature and poser-like, unless it came from the factory with one like a GTS, TT, GT3, RS, etc.

Me, personally, is way too self-conscious to pull that off, so I would just have a bodyshop remove and fill it, then sell it to some tweener on eBay.

Sorry, that's my humble opinion
and we all know what opinions are like..

You wanna hear something funny? I would argue that if OP is under the age of 40, everything you just said is exactly right, and OP should remove the wing. If OP is over 40, the wing is AWESOMENESS incarnate.

I know it sounds ridiculous, but hear me out. This all has to do with signaling. So, all animals use signaling as a means of conveying information about their fitness to others. Peacocks grow giant gaudy tails to signal to peahens, "Hey baby, I am so ideal a mate that I can afford to waste precious calories to grow this stupid tail that actually weighs me down and makes me susceptible to predation, but because my genes are so good, I can still outrun predators with this handicap." Gazelles stot - jump up and down in place and click their heels in the air - as lions approach closer and closer to signal, "Listen, you could come after me, but I am so fast I'll leave you in the dust. Now, if you do chase me, we'll both waste a bunch of precious calories. So, instead, let me sit here and stot in front of you to show you via this costly signal that I am the real deal, the Usain Bolt of gazelles, so you go find another weaker gazelle, who isn't fit enough to stot as you get closer and closer and closer, and we'll both save our precious calories."

In the same way, we primates use EVERYTHING at our disposal to signal to others. Clothing, food choices, tattoos, hair style... cars. So, the vape bro's will get the carbon flow through wings on their M2's, because that's their way of signaling to the world that they're edgy and young and virile hooligans. But that s*** is basic signaling 101.

Advanced signaling is what's called "counter-signaling." That's where you take incongruous fashion, positions, style, etc., that demonstrate to the audience that you are SO FIT, SO HIGH STATUS that the rules simply don't apply to you. Think Steve Jobs and his ridiculous black turtlenecks and jeans. I once attended an event and met the CEO of Sun Microsystems. Guy had a pony tail, and was wearing a white Hanes t-shirt, and jeans. Silicon Valley is littered with people counter-signaling - they have so much money and so much status, they can afford to drive a 1997 Honda Accord. My best friend, whose last bonus was $1.3M, drove a Chevy Sonic and I remember going out to the parking lot, seeing the piece of s*** he was driving and immediately thinking, "Goddamn! You are so high status you can drive that???" Think Warren Buffet and his ancient piece of crap cars. Counter-signaling is where it's at!

If OP is over the age of 40, the flow through wing is an amazing counter-signal. Nobody is going to mistake him for a vape bro. Instead, the choice is so incongruous that instead the conclusion everyone will come to is, "Dayyyyum! That dude is so high status, the rules simply don't apply to him!"

Also, it just looks awesome.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by cptobvious

You wanna hear something funny? I would argue that if OP is under the age of 40, everything you just said is exactly right, and OP should remove the wing. If OP is over 40, the wing is AWESOMENESS incarnate.

I guess that's a matter of opinion on people should or will perceive it.

I'm 32 and I personally find it looks too chintzy for my age bracket. I understand why BMW offers it and I don't knock them; if people are willing to buy it, they going to sell it. You can't argue with the Free Market. But like Barbara Reagan once said; "Just Say No."

You can never really know what's in a person's heart but I try to read how people feel based on how I personally perceive a situation, then filter it though their lens.

When I was in my early 20s, I saw a middle age man in my favorite car at time, a Lancer Evolution MR. Which coincidently had a large, phallic, wing and all I innocently kept thinking to myself is "Who's car is he driving" it looked so out of place for his assumed age. :

So at this juncture, I wouldn't want to be that guy, putting around, confusing the masses. But if anyone else feel they can pull it off, I promise I won't judge, not to your face anyways

[goku7]

How much was the price on that corporate demo car ? Looks sweet

[DaFish]

Well.... the wing seems to work! I had the car for less than a week and got my first ticket yesterday..... cop just had to select my car out of 3 doing the same speed.... wing perhaps? 140 kms/Hour in a 100 if you're curious. (He did drop it to 20 over though)

SUCKS!

[DaFish]

Originally Posted by goku7

How much was the price on that corporate demo car ? Looks sweet

Originally Posted by goku7

How much was the price on that corporate demo car ? Looks sweet

It is awesome...

The 763s came with it and they are stunning!

[M2Cmtl]

Here is the car my local dealer has on sale. 2019 DCT, they are asking 83k for it... but I'm sure they can go lower. They say it has 18k worth of parts on it, but the wheels don't really count in my opinion since the stock 788's are not sold with the car.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/m/mo...200C4&sprx=100

Aside from it being white, looks like the same spec as you!

[twboy1999]

love the 763

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by f31mtl

Here is the car my local dealer has on sale. 2019 DCT

Parts carefully selected and marketed to that dude who's going through his midlife crisis but can't exactly swing for a Porsche..

Which other grown-ass adult in that pay-grade would it appeal to and why else would anyone need a wing that's larger than their self-esteem...

[cptobvious]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Parts carefully selected and marketed to that dude who's going through his midlife crisis but can't exactly swing for a Porsche..

Which other grown-ass adult in that pay-grade would it appeal to and why else would anyone need a wing that's larger than their self-esteem...

Poochie, sir, if I ever do get the flow through wing, it will be just to spite you!

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by cptobvious

Poochie, sir, if I ever do get the flow through wing, it will be just to spite you!

LoL, never mind me, I'm just talking crap..

I promise I will not judge; you're cool enough to pull it off and not worthy of generalizations..

Go for it.

[doughboy]

OP,

Having this week been to the unexpected funeral of a car-nut work colleague (heart attack at 55).

I would say it looks great, Enjoy it while you can and stick two fingers up to anyone who says otherwise.

Amen.

[DaFish]

Originally Posted by f31mtl

Here is the car my local dealer has on sale. 2019 DCT, they are asking 83k for it... but I'm sure they can go lower. They say it has 18k worth of parts on it, but the wheels don't really count in my opinion since the stock 788's are not sold with the car.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/m/montréal/quebec/5_46196696_200574202534706/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&orup=2_7_7&pc=J5R%200C4&s prx=100

Aside from it being white, looks like the same spec as you!

That's the same car. They are screwing you. My dealer said they bought the car off corporate and they included free all the parts and 763s. My dealer decided to pass on marking up what they got free. I paid 73k with 5000 kms on it. This one is 10k more.

The other thing is that my invoice showed none of the carbon or the 763s, it has 788s on it. Proving they were free, or corporate donated.

[DaFish]

Originally Posted by doughboy

OP,

Having this week been to the unexpected funeral of a car-nut work colleague (heart attack at 55).

I would say it looks great, Enjoy it while you can and stick two fingers up to anyone who says otherwise.

Amen.

That is exactly why I did this.... I have had very close friends get very sick, or lost... it's time to do this now.

[grl.racr]

I don't get why people say "boy racer" like that is a bad thing... be fun and wild, it's a sports car! Who cares what other people think. Making safe and subtle choices because you're worried about judgement is so lame. Nothing wrong with bringing that inner child out and realizing life is meant to be enjoyed. I plan to put a big ass wing on mine

[DaFish]

Originally Posted by mrs.boost

I don't get why people say "boy racer" like that is a bad thing... be fun and wild, it's a sports car! Who cares what other people think. Making safe and subtle choices because you're worried about judgement is so lame. Nothing wrong with bringing that inner child out and realizing life is meant to be enjoyed. I plan to put a big ass wing on mine

That's a good comment! I certainly like the uniqueness of it, and it certainly establishes an aggressive look, which is growing on me. This thing in sports plus is just the full package.... DCT from the ZF 8 speed is just night and day too, DCT is phenomenally good.

The car looks the part and just performs as you wanted it to do. Really happy ! All the carbon parts and the 763s just fit with the wing and stance. I think I'll keep it now.

[MystroX5]

It’s not any different than a GT3 wing. It’s a high quality factory made piece of kit and certainly not a rice burner wing. A Porsche isn’t any different than a BMW in its implementation and quality of the part so if you like the look then go for it.

I can’t believe the new M8 doesn’t have a ALMS type wing to give it a more exotic look.

[goku7]

Originally Posted by f31mtl

Here is the car my local dealer has on sale. 2019 DCT, they are asking 83k for it... but I'm sure they can go lower. They say it has 18k worth of parts on it, but the wheels don't really count in my opinion since the stock 788's are not sold with the car.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/bmw/m/mo...4&sprx=100

Aside from it being white, looks like the same spec as you!

They crazy. 83k is the cost of the new m2 CS!!

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by goku7

They crazy. 83k is the cost of the new m2 CS!!

That's in CAD not in USD

[gk09]

Originally Posted by DaFish

I just bought a M2C used and it was a corporate demo that has a bunch on carbon parts. I love them all except I'd rather have a carbon rear lip rather than the carbon wing. It's a bit "boy racer" for me....

Is there a way I can remove it safely? Is it bolted though the trunk? I get the car tomorrow so I'll see then.

Did you buy this in st. Catherine's??

[Fahidm2comp]

Originally Posted by DaFish

It's day 2 with the car... the wing is a very nice Carbon fibre piece. Would I have bought this ? No

It came with the car. All the carbon was free on the corporate demo, and I am kind of getting used to it.

I'm going to see how I like it in a few months. It does suit the aggressiveness of the car, which is phenomenal btw..... I didn't know what I was missing from a fully modded 435, this is just a whole level above... the car is the full package for sure.

Who knows, it might take 10 years off me.... my wife said I was a kid, maybe I should live up to that.

I absolutely love the wing! Looks great in my opinion and will surely turn a few heads.. but that’s the whole point right?

[DaFish]

Originally Posted by gk09

Did you buy this in st. Catherine's??

I did!

[gk09]

Originally Posted by DaFish

I did!

Congrats I saw it there. It's a beast!