[Detoxified]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

So going in to Auto Talent tomorrow to finally bench flash bm3. Any must have settings?? Starting off with stage 2 e30. Can anyone share the difference they experience going with this tune??

Originally Posted by Mdkcrf250r

Can auto talent bench flash? I'm looking for a shop to ship my dme to for bench unlocking.

Some dude in a LA BMW group chat got his DME unlocked at AutoTalent with BM3 and now it's bricked during flashing. He is trying to work with them now to get it resolved. I believe BM3 and Alex from Alpine are trying to help diagnose the issue since no one knows what went wrong. He has a 2020 M4 with the latest updated DME

[tougeking]

What? After bench flash still not work? What manufactures month and year? That's weird...

[Bimmer28312]

Originally Posted by Detoxified

Some dude in a LA BMW group chat got his DME unlocked at AutoTalent with BM3 and now it's bricked during flashing. He is trying to work with them now to get it resolved. I believe BM3 and Alex from Alpine are trying to help diagnose the issue since no one knows what went wrong. He has a 2020 M4 with the latest updated DME

Damn that's the last thing I want to hear right now! But no the dme is not bricked by any means per the tuner

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Damn that's the last thing I want to hear right now!

^ yikes
There's always EAS if you're in town.

[Detoxified]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Damn that's the last thing I want to hear right now! But no the dme is not bricked by any means per the tuner

The guy who's car is "bricked", used that terminology.. just relaying the message. I'll ask him for an update.

He claims they unlocked the DME remote with BM3, but when flashing a map the DME "bricked"...

[Bimmer28312]

Originally Posted by Detoxified

The guy who's car is "bricked", used that terminology.. just relaying the message. I'll ask him for an update.

He claims they unlocked the DME remote with BM3, but when flashing a map the DME "bricked"...

Man that's some some shit luck. First I've heard of this happening but def share the info you have on what he says. First time flashing, if he was unlocked before it not, what map etc. I didn't drive 6hrs to get spooked now so I'm proceeding with it all 😳

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Man that's some some shit luck. First I've heard of this happening but def share the info you have on what he says. First time flashing, if he was unlocked before it not, what map etc. I didn't drive 6hrs to get spooked now so I'm proceeding with it all 😳

Fortune favors the brave. lol

[McLaren720s]

Originally Posted by Detoxified

The guy who's car is "bricked", used that terminology.. just relaying the message. I'll ask him for an update.

He claims they unlocked the DME remote with BM3, but when flashing a map the DME "bricked"...

My tuner said this happens once in a while when flashing BM3. Just as they we’re flashing my car, a guy with a 135i brought his car over on a tow truck because his ECU bricked when flashing BM3.

My tuner said it takes a couple of hours to un-brick the car and reset it.

[Detoxified]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Man that's some some shit luck. First I've heard of this happening but def share the info you have on what he says. First time flashing, if he was unlocked before it not, what map etc. I didn't drive 6hrs to get spooked now so I'm proceeding with it all 😳

I would proceed as well, I think this was a one off incident that 'can' happen to new ECU's! AutoTalent has some great guys who are knowledgeable, mistakes can happen.

[Bimmer28312]

I'll report back hopefully enjoying the extra 130hp+

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Man that's some some shit luck. First I've heard of this happening but def share the info you have on what he says. First time flashing, if he was unlocked before it not, what map etc. I didn't drive 6hrs to get spooked now so I'm proceeding with it all ��

Make sure that they attach a high powered battery charger to the connections under the hood before flashing, just to eliminate one issue at least.

[infinitekidM2C]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

Make sure that they attach a high powered battery charger to the connections under the hood before flashing, just to eliminate one issue at least.

Bimmer28312 is probably too busy enjoying an additional 130hp!

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by Detoxified

Some dude in a LA BMW group chat got his DME unlocked at AutoTalent with BM3 and now it's bricked during flashing. He is trying to work with them now to get it resolved. I believe BM3 and Alex from Alpine are trying to help diagnose the issue since no one knows what went wrong. He has a 2020 M4 with the latest updated DME

Originally Posted by Detoxified

The guy who's car is "bricked", used that terminology.. just relaying the message. I'll ask him for an update.

He claims they unlocked the DME remote with BM3, but when flashing a map the DME "bricked"...

Bricking these DMEs, in the true sense of the word, is impossible over OBD. You can kick the ENET/OBD cable at the start/mid/end of the flashing process and still recover over OBD after by simply restarting the flash.

This particular car was bench unlocked by Autotalent on April 8th, and flashed with bm3 without issues. Our support hours are Mon-Fri 9am-5pm EST and we got an email around 6-630pm indicating this car could no longer flash for some odd reason yet it was fine before and bench unlocked. Our tech support staff was already offline but they got in touch with Autotalent to remote in and troubleshoot the issue. Not having any other details we suspected battery being low and advised battery to be charged.

Autotalent found a Macht Scnhell exhaust valve controller connected which the owner recently reinstalled. This device, much like any other piggyback, sits on the CANBus and needs to be disconnected or it interrupts programming with any tool, OEM or aftermarket, and that includes bm3.

Prior to flashing with bm3 a warning message comes up to disable any such devices but unfortunately it was kept on and was interrupting. In any case, this is easily resolvable

Originally Posted by McLaren720s

My tuner said this happens once in a while when flashing BM3. Just as they we’re flashing my car, a guy with a 135i brought his car over on a tow truck because his ECU bricked when flashing BM3.

My tuner said it takes a couple of hours to un-brick the car and reset it.

Hi McLaren720s not sure which tuner you spoke to but programming never fails unless caused by external factors such as the above mentioned.

What can fail OBD programming with BM3 will fail programming with any software including OEM tools such as ISTA and E-SYS. This includes having piggyback devices running on the car, bad ENET/OBD cable, low battery charge causing ignition drop or in some cases on laptops leaving firewall (windows defender) turned on. In all of these cases the DME is fully recoverable after the root case is identified.

All the best, hope everyone is staying safe and healthy

[Detoxified]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

Bricking these DMEs, in the true sense of the word, is impossible over OBD. You can kick the ENET/OBD cable at the start/mid/end of the flashing process and still recover over OBD after by simply restarting the flash.

This particular car was bench unlocked by Autotalent on April 8th, and flashed with bm3 without issues. Our support hours are Mon-Fri 9am-5pm EST and we got an email around 6-630pm indicating this car could no longer flash for some odd reason yet it was fine before and bench unlocked. Our tech support staff was already offline but they got in touch with Autotalent to remote in and troubleshoot the issue. Not having any other details we suspected battery being low and advised battery to be charged.

Autotalent found a Macht Scnhell exhaust valve controller connected which the owner recently reinstalled. This device, much like any other piggyback, sits on the CANBus and needs to be disconnected or it interrupts programming with any tool, OEM or aftermarket, and that includes bm3.

Prior to flashing with bm3 a warning message comes up to disable any such devices but unfortunately it was kept on and was interrupting. In any case, this is easily resolvable

Hi McLaren720s not sure which tuner you spoke to but programming never fails unless caused by external factors such as the above mentioned.

What can fail OBD programming with BM3 will fail programming with any software including OEM tools such as ISTA and E-SYS. This includes having piggyback devices running on the car, bad ENET/OBD cable, low battery charge causing ignition drop or in some cases on laptops leaving firewall (windows defender) turned on. In all of these cases the DME is fully recoverable after the root case is identified.

All the best, hope everyone is staying safe and healthy

Thanks for sharing this information! It further places my trust into BM3 with how knowledgeable and up front you all are. 👍🏼 can't wait to tune my M2C in the near future

[Bimmer28312]

Let me make it easier I'm busy running these empty highways atm in Socal. Auto Talent did an awesome job!!

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by Detoxified

Thanks for sharing this information! It further places my trust into BM3 with how knowledgeable and up front you all are. 👍🏼 can't wait to tune my M2C in the near future

Originally Posted by Bimmer28312

Let me make it easier I'm busy running these empty highways atm in Socal. Auto Talent did an awesome job!!

[tougeking]

I'm just wondering what kit could bench unlock the 2020 M2C? Would the FLEX tuning kit work for 2020 M2C? I was told some bench unlock tools like KTAG and Autotuner could do this, but DME needs to be opened which I couldn't accept at all. Anyone could share info?

[McLaren720s]

Originally Posted by tougeking

I'm just wondering what kit could bench unlock the 2020 M2C? Would the FLEX tuning kit work for 2020 M2C? I was told some bench unlock tools like KTAG and Autotuner could do this, but DME needs to be opened which I couldn't accept at all. Anyone could share info?

Mine was unlocked with AutoTuner. You can connect to the ECU without having to remove it.
Best to find a shop that can do it for you.

[tougeking]

Originally Posted by McLaren720s

Mine was unlocked with AutoTuner. You can connect to the ECU without having to remove it.
Best to find a shop that can do it for you.

I don't have a reliable shop nearby unluckily. They have bench flash kit and don't know how to use it... anyone has photos and how-to instructions would be greatly helpful. I really want to support BM3, hope those genii could help people who're suffering...

[Detoxified]

Originally Posted by tougeking

I don't have a reliable shop nearby unluckily. They have bench flash kit and don't know how to use it... anyone has photos and how-to instructions would be greatly helpful. I really want to support BM3, hope those genii could help people who're suffering...

Please let me know if you find a guide or instructions as well. I have been looking into a Ktag kit as well.

[tougeking]

Still struggling to look for solutions... Just pray BM3 could make OBD remap work directly to our car, that would be a surprise.

[McLaren720s]

Originally Posted by tougeking

Still struggling to look for solutions... Just pray BM3 could make OBD remap work directly to our car, that would be a surprise.

Have you tried looking for shops that are perhaps farther away? Someone here just drove 5 hours to a shop that unlocked it for him. You might want to look into that.
If you live in DC, there have to be shops in Philly/NY that whole area that can unlock ECU.
Contact Kies Motorsport in PA. Maybe they can do it.