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      01-19-2024, 06:53 PM   #23
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IMHO, bars are the last thing to change on suspension, and should be used for running front to rear balance. If you are experiencing too much roll or want more responsiveness, springs or could will be more useful.

Now, the counter argument is bars are much cheaper and more easily reversible mod, which is totally valid. It's a personal choice.
Happy I went the spring/damper route instead of sway. Still have that lever to pull as needed but likely won’t.
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Anyone running the CSR sway bar with Mperformance springs? Was thinking of going this route on the Cs. I never track, just spirited drives so I figured coils would be overkill.
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I am running the Hotchkis front bar + Milway camber plates. Really made a difference.
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Those are really nice, unfortunately I'm in Europe and anything from US is out of reach or double the price.

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I'm running the CSR bar with Vorshlag camber plates set at -2.5deg camber on Bilstein B6 EDC shocks and stock springs. I didn't want to lower the car. Loving the combination.
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I'm running the CSR bar with Vorshlag camber plates set at -2.5deg camber on Bilstein B6 EDC shocks and stock springs. I didn't want to lower the car. Loving the combination.
is it recommended to do camber plates along with the CSR bar? I don't plan to track, just spirited driving. Just placed an order for CSR bar/bushings along with lowering springs. On the fence about Vorschlag camber plates.
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      01-31-2024, 12:26 PM   #29
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is it recommended to do camber plates along with the CSR bar? I don't plan to track, just spirited driving. Just placed an order for CSR bar/bushings along with lowering springs. On the fence about Vorschlag camber plates.
If you don't track, I don't think camber plates are necessary. But since you're changing springs, it'll be a good time to install the plates at the same time should you decide on them. The CSR bar by itself really transformed the car. I had it on for a year before deciding on the Vorshlag plates. I only track at most 2-3 times a year.
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Hi guys,

Anyone in here installed the CSR rear sway bar? (Not H&R but the one BMW sales)
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      03-29-2024, 07:20 AM   #31
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Hi guys,

Anyone in here installed the CSR rear sway bar? (Not H&R but the one BMW sales)
I had this very question. Track/S recommended using the HR (I think it was HR) instead of CSR. I run the CSR front and love it. Eventually I'll get his diff lift kit and may do a bar install at that time. I like the way it feels with stock rear sway so I'll need to think about that upgrade. Not any easy swap.
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... the csr's rear bar has a different geometry compared to the H&R.
This is correct. The CSR rear bar is also adjustable where the H&R is not.

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Hi guys,
Anyone in here installed the CSR rear sway bar? (Not H&R but the one BMW sales)
I have both front and rear CSR bars installed on my comp. I installed them at the same time so cannot compare vs just the front bar. Here's my thoughts on it though and why I would consider alternatives to the CSR rear bar:

The front bar is the more important one because it helps keep the car from losing camber on the outside wheel which can happen on strut cars when the camber curve inverts. Having a rear bar is an important tuning tool for anyone who goes to the track as it's one of the few and easiest ways to adjust the balance of the car. For it to be tunable though, it must be adjustable and the H&R rear bar, oddly enough, is not (although it looks like it could have an additional set of holes drilled for a stiffer setting). The CSR bar is, however adjustable with a second hole present, however, because of the above mentioned difference in geometry you may want to look elsewhere.

The CSR does not use a standard fuel tank/filler and so doesn't have the same routing constraints that the series car has. When installed on the series car, the CSR rear bar's shape puts it close enough to rub on the filler neck very lightly. This is something I'm going to remedy one way or another, but left unchecked it could lead to a pin-hole and fuel leakage. This wasn't immediately apparent during install and makes me curious if there is a rate difference between the CSR and H&R rear bars.
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      04-03-2024, 12:58 PM   #33
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Ok. Thank you very much.
This is exactly the information I was looking for.
As far as I know the H&R rear bar is completely different from CSR. But I heard that with true rear coilovers (I have Intrax 1K2), the H&R might catch the rear spring. This was from a Facebook group, not verified, someone told me to get Eibach instead because of this issue.
I see the Eibach rear is 26mm and triple adjustable, might be the one to get.
Anyway today my CSR front arrived, I will install it soon and see at the fist trackday how much the rear is needed.

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      04-03-2024, 09:00 PM   #34
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Looking forward to hearing if there’s a significant change in feel and handling…
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      04-03-2024, 10:17 PM   #35
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It has to be, I feel that the front bites a bit too much compared to the rear:



This was also tires, alignment and aero unbalance

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