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Yes, its marginaly better. But the M240 gets even better with the ZF8.
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I haven't calculated manually, but gotten about 400 miles out of 2 tanks of gas Fill about 11 gallons each time), so I'm averaging 18 mpg around town with some spirited driving as I enjoy my new car. Still only have about 425 miles on her. I'm guessing on highway driving I'll get much better, or when I drive in Efficiency mode. But I doubt I'll get better...the M2 craves to be driven hard (not abused), and thats when its most fun (and inefficient).
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I have a friend who tried to tell me that he saved money by buying his Model 3 because he pays less for electricity than he does for gasoline. But then I pointed out the fact that his cash outlay for the Tesla will never even allow him to break even, much less gain, unless he keeps the car for more than 15 years. At that point, he might be able to save some money. The calculation considered all factors and used average/projected costs of fuel for both vehicles as just one of the factors. Most people just don't look at the big picture and when they finally do, they realize that they probably aren't saving money with an electric car. Yes, the fuel cost is cheaper, usually by 1/2 to 1/3 for electricity vs gasoline, but fuel is just one consideration. |
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Yes, if you want to drive the M2 like a grandma, then its not for you to begin with. Cant worry about economy on this type of car. Only thing sucks is that the tank is small so filling up every 200 miles is not fun. I do long trips once in a while and will need to make more fuel stops along the way.
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I gave long hard thought to the Model S (it does drive nicely and the torque is just fabulous) but in the end, I couldn't make it work. Range anxiety, out of pocket cost, quality issues with Tesla, value for money, etc. Yeah, wait 'til you're my age, and you'll need those extra fuel stops for pee breaks.
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01-09-2020, 07:41 PM | #33 |
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I get about 225-240 miles per tank. I drive pretty lazily.
You might do better if it’s a lot of freeway driving, but ultimately, as somebody else said, you will fill the tank regularly because it is so small. |
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Not sure if it was mentioned yet, but you can go for a DCT if you are concerned about fuel econ. It has an extra gear that puts you in a lower rpm range during highway speeds. It's 1000+rpm lower depending on speed.
I did a 5mi highway run in my Stg2 tuned DCT today in comfort mode, 75-80mph, and got 26mpg. I never drive on the highway so that's the only personal input I can give for mpg. |
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Forgot about the crankhub with the M3. Honestly, I have no idea what I am going to do, but with my BRZ approaching 200k miles, I want to find something soon. There's nothing nice in the japanese market besides the GTR which I don't have the cash for.
Audi S3? lol 1. Has to be at least in the high 20's MPG 2. Has to be relatively fast / fun 3. 6MT is a plus 4. Can't be a Hyundai. I don't like USA domestics. 5. Affordable, budget is 50k max. M2 fits the bill for the most part, but is a stretch for bullet 1. Last edited by MPR; 01-09-2020 at 09:28 PM.. |
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I drive daily my car to work and it’s about 67 miles round trip and pump about every 4 days. My car is a manual transmission so it’s not as efficient when driving 75-80mphs because the rpm is at about 3k at those speeds.
I wish the tank was a little bigger so that I don’t have to pump that often, but I honestly don’t mind it. You should get the M2 it’s definitely worth it because Smiles per gallons > Miles per gallon |
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I did a Miami to Chicago run and wanted to see how much mpg I coul get, and have the fewest possible stops. This was a 1400 mile distance.
Managed to get 28 mpg mostly cruising 75-85. Stop 1 was in Gainesville,, FL (~300 mi) Stop 2 was near Macon, GA (~ 250 mi) Stop 3 was in Nashville, TN (~ 330 mi) Stop 4 was somewhere near Louisville, KY (~ 175) At that point I had enough gas to get to Chicago, (~ 300 mi more) would have made it but had to make one more stop just because I was tired as hell. About 300-333 miles between each stop! I didn't know my car could do more than 200 miles on a tank Last edited by ddk632; 01-10-2020 at 06:17 AM.. |
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